Morrissey Central "Mamma Lay Softly" (August 15, 2020)

"The flowers of solace, comfort and consolation that have arrived at Beechmount - my mother's home for over 30 years, and now, her premature place of rest, are all so Hindu sundar; so beautiful; so expensive; so lavish; so glamorous; so much more than I ever expected that anyone anywhere would bestow on my mother. For my own life I don't care anything, but how my worldwide friends have regarded my mother with such great respect and faithful love is a gift to me that no success, triumphs or riches could match.

I send you what remains of my love, and I hope that we all survive so that one day, one way, the halls of music and free expression will never again hold the power to exercise their malicious deception that keeps us apart."

Morrissey
14 August 2020.




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Dee dee

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Did she, though? Reign in his narcissism? And did it develop all by itself? Or was a seed planted?

I don't know what his mother was like, and I briefly wondered about that once, long ago. I even considered writing directly to her to complain then, much like one would contact the customer service department and vent about a faulty product. Thankfully, I decided against it, partly because I had a feeling she wouldn't be on my side anyway :D

Now I read anecdotes from people who met her and I am surprised because she indeed seemed nice to fans. It was of course unfair to imagine her only in relation to her son, but I didn't know anything about her, and still don't, so, based on what her son was like, I pictured a rather horrid woman, who had encouraged her son to do anything to become famous and wealthy and who wouldn't care at what cost, as long as she got money and that weird "respect" her son now mentions, (the respect that is, what, due to her because she gave birth to him? How ridiculous is that? How reactionary is that? )

If people she's never met or heard of send beautiful flowers, ultimately, it's a mark of "respect " to him, it's attention that HE receives. I imagine whenever some old Mafioso's mummy dies, the local people fight over who sends the biggest wreath, because they need protection or whatever. So I assume if you send a bouquet from Peru you're in desperate need of Sammy's blessings because the harvest has been bad. Something like that.
Sure, sending "expensive" flowers ("I saw you get those daisies from the neighbour's lawn! Congratulations! You're barred!") is a nice gesture, but no matter how sincere these people were, they can't forget that his mother is never going to see those.

So yes, this all robs her of her own death a bit, I agree. It makes it all about him. Again. And yet surely she was her own person, not just somebody's mother, not just the matrix.

It would have been nice to learn more about your mum, Morrissey. What was her favourite flower? Could she sing any Irish ballads? Did she have a favourite subject at school? Was she creative? Did she sometimes think the men in her family were twits? Was she member of "for Britain"? The Flat Earth Society? The RSPCA? Any favourite crisps flavour? Did she recognize fans' handwritings on envelopes? Who was her favourite Morrissey musician? What kind of upbringing did she have? Was she a buddhist? Did she ever knit you a jumper?

You ask people to pray for a stranger. Your faithful nephew takes it even further and welcomes everybody to a service nobody outside Ireland can go to anyway to celebrate the life of a stranger. You choose to make all this public when you could take this time to stop, to take stock.

So I've heard many times that people grieve differently but I don't see the respect. Unless her final wish was to have the funeral of a rockstar and be part of the usual Centrassholery.

I 'm sure there is love for her, you keep saying you loved her, and I'm sure you're heartbroken, you must be. But as always, no matter how much you claim to love someone, they come second.
That's fair enough. And it's no surprise.
I truly hope you'll find your way out of that before your death though.

One last thing about respect. People are worthy of respect until proven otherwise. For instance, me, in the House of Morrissey, if I want to disrespect Steven Patrick Francis and the self-important halfwit who tells the world to say a "Snail Mary' for his grandma, in Spanish, something is telling me it's A-ok.
You show the respect or lack of you feel. It's all ok to me. Morrissey hasn't stopped being Morrissey just because his mother died. Sadly.

Now or in a little while would be a good time to do just that, though.
There is help and support if he chooses to explore that option, which might actually be the only one. I'm sure Russell could help, people like that.

All he can see now is he's denied going on stage but it might be a reflex to avoid facing his grief. In a little while he might see things differently. Maybe feel like breaking the family.

(Yeah that means telling the nephew to stfu.)(in plain english)(You know, the language absent from that 2nd paragraph?...)
And that doesn't mean the end of the song, just the end of the circus, the yt videos, the loopy rants, etc.

A bit like being born again.

I know. Too soon. Just planting. We'll see.
Utter rubbish.
Love to you Moz, hope the river of flowers showing support and love brighten your days in these darker times. So much love to you xx
 
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Anonymous

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f*** me reading some of these comments..... A family has just lost their matriach People handle grief in different ways. If you have a platform would you not do the same for your mum?

The lowlife has lost its appeal
We handled it with grace, empathy and humility. Not so much for this crew.

“Send flowers here...” and “Covid-19 is a conspiracy”.

Fak Arf.
 
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Benny-the-British-Butcher

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More than happy to share a couple of pics from this weekends shoot at Beechmount. Let me know on here if anyone is interested and I’ll post them via “little benny“ @ the BtBB merch store. :thumb:

Benny :bouquet:
 
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Anonymous

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A man devoid of empathy for humans, suddenly cries for empathy. ...and 42 bundles and stocks of murdered flora are delivered.

...no doubt, by the same 14 people who apologize for his horrific behaviour and narcissism - who buy multiple copies of his reissues - and enable his continued inability to grow the f*** up and accept responsibility for his nastiness.

I feel for the rest of his family. Now they’re stuck with a 60 year old man-child, who’s both simple and embarrassing.
 
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Anonymous

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I went on social media the night my mum died.......that day and the immediate days after.... I was completely lost. Show more understanding.
Yes. Folks who love their lives in the clouds of the internet often have to run there for support, when they’ve got ZERO in the real world.
 

ThePoliticalRevolution

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QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 1987315322"]
A man devoid of empathy for humans, suddenly cries for empathy. ...and 42 bundles and stocks of murdered flora are delivered.

...no doubt, by the same 14 people who apologize for his horrific behaviour and narcissism - who buy multiple copies of his reissues - and enable his continued inability to grow the f*** up and accept responsibility for his nastiness.

I feel for the rest of his family. Now they’re stuck with a 60 year old man-child, who’s both simple and embarrassing.
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I think Steve is great. I'll take him off your hands if you hate him so much. *shrugs*
 
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Nerak

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A man devoid of empathy for humans, suddenly cries for empathy. ...and 42 bundles and stocks of murdered flora are delivered.

...no doubt, by the same 14 people who apologize for his horrific behaviour and narcissism - who buy multiple copies of his reissues - and enable his continued inability to grow the f*** up and accept responsibility for his nastiness.

I feel for the rest of his family. Now they’re stuck with a 60 year old man-child, who’s both simple and embarrassing.

What is his horrific behaviour? Making venues vegan? Whingeing?
 

Nerak

Reverse Ferret
We handled it with grace, empathy and humility. Not so much for this crew.

“Send flowers here...” and “Covid-19 is a conspiracy”.

Fak Arf.

His mother has been dead a couple of days, you see one phrase you think you can interpret in a negative light & you use that as an excuse to continue to troll.

No one's going to send flowers to your gate.
 

HengeBoy

Active Member
His mother has been dead a couple of days, you see one phrase you think you can interpret in a negative light & you use that as an excuse to continue to troll.

No one's going to send flowers to your gate.

You and some other member bringing up the idea of an possible album isn't any better, I would think you being one of this forums most dedicated crazed fan would know better...
 
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Benny-the-British-Butcher

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His mother has been dead a couple of days, you see one phrase you think you can interpret in a negative light & you use that as an excuse to continue to troll.

No one's going to send flowers to your gate.

Karen.
What are you doing?
You’re doing it again aren’t you.
Its disrespectful at the present time. Either stay on topic or say nothing.

Benny
 

HengeBoy

Active Member
Wasn't about the album, it was about moving on.

But I see you're all back to trolling...

You just replied of my question saying it IS a good time to talk an album while his mother just died, I may be a bitch but you're saying in this pic is downright selfish & insensitive...
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