Love Music Hate Racism by Fiona Dodwell - Tremr

Oh my god. it's Robby!

spontaneously luminescent
The Trump thing was weird but I think it had to do with Moz not liking his looks and the way he sounds. It was not about Trump's views or plans for the future and that but the mexican wall thing meant he had to hate on Trump to keep the mexicali cash cow going.
It could be calculated yes, but also I think he makes a completely stupid distinction between the USA being a land of immigrants and so trump’s anti immigrant stand is wrong. Where as him(Moz) being anti immigrant in the uk which he seems to see as some homogenous land which is a gentle blending of Celts and Anglo Saxons long ago, you know, the last truly British people you will ever know and all that garbage :rolleyes:
But see, he’s just plain dead wrong, the British isles are ancient and have gone through an astounding number of ethnic evolutions over thousands of years, each time becoming something different, but I think retaining the best of the old, the fact that he can’t embrace that saddens me, that’s all.
And maybe, just maybe, in the past, I just gave him to much credit cuz of his fine word play and occasional brilliant insights but in the end, he’s a an autodidact and like most of those, well, he’s got some serious intellectual blindspots.
What I’m trying to say is I’ve decided to forgive Moz for being a bigot cuz he is one for the same reason most people are, perhaps, he’s just f**king dumb :straightface:
 
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It could be calculated yes, but also I think he makes a completely stupid distinction between the USA being a land of immigrants and so trump’s anti immigrant stand is wrong. Where as him(Moz) being anti immigrant in the uk which he seems to see as some homogenous land which is a gentle blending of Celts and Anglo Saxons long ago, you know, the last truly British people you will ever know and all that garbage :rolleyes:
But see, he’s just plain dead wrong, the British isles are ancient and have gone through an astounding number of ethnic evolutions over thousands of years, each time becoming something different, but I think retaining the best of the old, the fact that he can’t embrace that saddens me, that’s all.
And maybe, just maybe, in the past, I just gave him to much credit cuz of his fine word play and occasional brilliant insights but in the end, he’s a an autodidact and like most of those, well, he’s got some serious intellectual blindspots.
What I’m trying to say is I’ve decided to forgive Moz for being a bigot cuz he is one for the same reason most people are, perhaps, he’s just f**king dumb :straightface:
Instead of all that you can just point to the fact he is always travelling all over the world and living in far off places as well plus the fact he is a tax cheater which means there is less money to fund things that may lead to increased problems in regards to how to cope with all the immigrants. Maybe he should not only pay his staff and come out of the closet but also start paying tax in the UK if he's such a nationalist.
 

g23

Always crashing in the same car
The Trump thing was weird but I think it had to do with Moz not liking his looks and the way he sounds. It was not about Trump's views or plans for the future and that but the mexican wall thing meant he had to hate on Trump to keep the mexicali cash cow going.
I agree 100%.
 

g23

Always crashing in the same car
:crazy:

You sure its not my 'other godlike species' LOL:crazy:
No, it's the other version of you that uses the same sentence structure, fonts, and emoji placement.
You've made it very obvious. When your boy doesn't have anything to cheerlead on, or you can't bring yourself to do it, you aim your sights on other things. Forum members, Johnny Marr, etc. And LIHS is still crap, no matter how many times your other persona tries bigging it up.
 
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URBANUS

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When it comes to Skinny it must be quite clear that he was largely inspired politically by the Bradford riots in the summer of 2001. I've searched for an answer to why he has those views of his and you cannot look past those events in Bradford 2001. But it wasn't just in Bradford things kicked off.


The really graphic videos are now quite hard to find online.
I was so in love that summer it gave me panic attacks so those events are just a blur to me now.
 

Joe90

Member
TAKE THE PILL FOLKS!! LEARN AND WATCH!!
Robinson is NOT A RACIST!! View and consume dude >
ANY THOUGHTS??

Interesting video and debate. Garvey says he is a 'Black Nationalist-Pan Africanist' (like the more famous historical Marcus Garvey who led the Universal Negro Improvement Association and the 'Back-to-Africa Movement') and that he has been called a 'racist' but I guess if someone said they were a 'White Nationalist-Pan Europeanist' they would get called a 'racist' as well. Robinson says that the EDL welcomed both white and black people and Asian Sikhs (but admittedly not Muslims but they did have ex-Muslim supporters) not just white English/British people. What Garvey does say is that he is for his own black people not against white people or Jews etc.

http://marcusgarvey.com/

Amazing to think that the polar opposites of the Socialist Party of Great Britain used to hold debates with the British Union of Fascists at one time.

https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1930s/1935/no-368-april-1935/debate-fascist

https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1930s/1935/no-369-may-1935/debate-fascist-pt2

The SPGB continue to be a unique left-wing party who reject the 'No Platform' approach of the SWP/Communists/UAF/LMHR/Antifa et al.

https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/forum/general-discussion/no-no-platform


In recent years, surprising as it may seem, the BNP/Britain First have debated with Muslims.



It would be worth watching if BBC Newsnight got Morrissey and Dave Haslam on for a free speech debate!
 
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Oh my god. it's Robby!

spontaneously luminescent
No, it's the other version of you that uses the same sentence structure, fonts, and emoji placement.
You've made it very obvious. When your boy doesn't have anything to cheerlead on, or you can't bring yourself to do it, you aim your sights on other things. Forum members, Johnny Marr, etc. And LIHS is still crap, no matter how many times your other persona tries bigging it up.
It’s funny, I don’t even look at the names on the screen anymore, what a gme that was to play back in the day though huh?
Even I use to get accused of having puppets, but no, still just Robby and will always be just Robby.
& frankly I don’t believe Skinny has puppets either...
 
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URBANUS

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Interesting video and debate. Garvey says he is a 'Black Nationalist-Pan Africanist' (like the more famous historical Marcus Garvey who led the Universal Negro Improvement Association and the 'Back-to-Africa Movement') and that he has been called a 'racist' but I guess if someone said they were a 'White Nationalist-Pan Europeanist' they would get called a 'racist' as well. Robinson says that the EDL welcomed both white and black people and Asian Sikhs (but admittedly not Muslims but they did have ex-Muslim supporters) not just white English/British people. What Garvey does say is that he is for his own black people not against white people or Jews etc.

http://marcusgarvey.com/

Amazing to think that the polar opposites of the Socialist Party of Great Britain used to hold debates with the British Union of Fascists at one time.

https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1930s/1935/no-368-april-1935/debate-fascist

https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1930s/1935/no-369-may-1935/debate-fascist-pt2

The SPGB continue to be a unique left-wing party who reject the 'No Platform' approach of the SWP/Communists/UAF/Antifa et al.

https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/forum/general-discussion/no-no-platform


In recent years, surprising as it may seem, the BNP/Britain First have debated with Muslims.



It would be worth watching if BBC Newsnight got Morrissey and Dave Haslam on for a free speech debate!
I wanna see that and Moz would be like a cat on his back and all fours in air going tickle my tummy Dave!
 

A scanty bit of thing

I only have eyes for youuuuuu, Aztec!
It could be calculated yes, but also I think he makes a completely stupid distinction between the USA being a land of immigrants and so trump’s anti immigrant stand is wrong. Where as him(Moz) being anti immigrant in the uk which he seems to see as some homogenous land which is a gentle blending of Celts and Anglo Saxons long ago, you know, the last truly British people you will ever know and all that garbage :rolleyes:
But see, he’s just plain dead wrong, the British isles are ancient and have gone through an astounding number of ethnic evolutions over thousands of years, each time becoming something different, but I think retaining the best of the old, the fact that he can’t embrace that saddens me, that’s all.
And maybe, just maybe, in the past, I just gave him to much credit cuz of his fine word play and occasional brilliant insights but in the end, he’s a an autodidact and like most of those, well, he’s got some serious intellectual blindspots.
What I’m trying to say is I’ve decided to forgive Moz for being a bigot cuz he is one for the same reason most people are, perhaps, he’s just f**king dumb :straightface:
Being called dumb by you, GOTTS to be the hi-light of anybody's day.
 
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Truth

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The Trump thing was weird but I think it had to do with Moz not liking his looks and the way he sounds. It was not about Trump's views or plans for the future and that but the mexican wall thing meant he had to hate on Trump to keep the mexicali cash cow going.

It could be that Morrissey himself is practically an immigrant to the US. Because he still seems to be rich and because they know he is not a threat even when he "wishes" a President would die he's likely to still be allowed to come to the US, but it's not in his best interests to support Trump for personal reasons. If they really did crack down on travel into the US it would make Morrissey's life more difficult. And Trump is unpopular with a pretty good portion of his North American fans.
If Hillary was President he would be speaking out against her, too. As far as his views on British politics I could only speculate. But immigration into the US is a very different thing than immigration into Britain. I think it's kind of naive of him to see some golden past slipping away. When was that exactly? What time period would he want to stop the clock in? Probably when he was young because things seem more optimistic then even if it was shit.
All I'm saying is that I can see being anti-Trump and still supporting someone who may seem to have similar policies. Not that I agree though. I think it's like a wave going out and coming back in. Where does the wealth of England come from? It's from creating an empire and exploiting as much and as many as possible. So of course people from those countries are going to want to come and have a chance to get some of that wealth. And you can't really blame them for not wanting to fit in, for wanting to keep their own language and culture alive.
You also can't really blame the younger people of Britain for not wanting the competition from immigrants for housing and jobs. Who benefits? The wealthy. They can raise rents on the properties they own and they can get cheap labor.
But still it's wrong to treat all immigrants legal or not as if they are terrorists.
With all massively divisive issues the truth is always more complicated than either side will admit.
 
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vegan.cro spirit# 555

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No, it's the other version of you that uses the same sentence structure, fonts, and emoji placement.
You've made it very obvious. When your boy doesn't have anything to cheerlead on, or you can't bring yourself to do it, you aim your sights on other things. Forum members, Johnny Marr, etc. And LIHS is still crap, no matter how many times your other persona tries bigging it up.


WTF? "same sentence structure":crazy:
You ve been reading too many Skinny SockPuppet posts. You brain is thinking the real peeps are sock puppets and the sock puppets, real peeps. You mind has gone science fiction probably listening to CALL
the COMET:drama: music has contributed to your insanity. 99 percent of the Moz haters are in fact Skinny sock puppets and ALL pro Moz posters are decent and real contributors. FFS :tiphat:
 

g23

Always crashing in the same car
It’s funny, I don’t even look at the names on the screen anymore, what a gme that was to play back in the day though huh?
Even I use to get accused of having puppets, but no, still just Robby and will always be just Robby.
& frankly I don’t believe Skinny has puppets either...
I don't think he's above going anon every now and again though. We all have our tics and tells.
 

g23

Always crashing in the same car
WTF? "same sentence structure":crazy:
You ve been reading too many Skinny SockPuppet posts. You brain is thinking the real peeps are sock puppets and the sock puppets, real peeps. You mind has gone science fiction probably listening to CALL
the COMET:drama: music has contributed to your insanity. 99 percent of the Moz haters are in fact Skinny sock puppets and ALL pro Moz posters are decent and real contributors. FFS :tiphat:
It was good to see your other account logged into today. It had been awhile. I'd wondered how "they" were doing.
 
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vegan.cro spirit# 852

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It was good to see your other account logged into today. It had been awhile. I'd wondered how "they" were doing.

:crazy:

old.com is a subspecies SockPuppet of "surface" ffs. Its as clear as day.
Sock puppets dont have the
same 'sentence structure'.:crazy:
 

CrystalGeezer

My secret's my enzyme.
Well if the queen or Thatcher had answered back in the day it would have been free speech too.
But if The Sun had attacked and abused Morrisey over his Thatcher-comments it would have been attacking free speech and most here would agree that it was harmful.

In the same vein the attacks he suffers now are an attack on free speech.

That’s not how it works.
 
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URBANUS

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It could be that Morrissey himself is practically an immigrant to the US. Because he still seems to be rich and because they know he is not a threat even when he "wishes" a President would die he's likely to still be allowed to come to the US, but it's not in his best interests to support Trump for personal reasons. If they really did crack down on travel into the US it would make Morrissey's life more difficult. And Trump is unpopular with a pretty good portion of his North American fans.
If Hillary was President he would be speaking out against her, too. As far as his views on British politics I could only speculate. But immigration into the US is a very different thing than immigration into Britain. I think it's kind of naive of him to see some golden past slipping away. When was that exactly? What time period would he want to stop the clock in? Probably when he was young because things seem more optimistic then even if it was shit.
All I'm saying is that I can see being anti-Trump and still supporting someone who may seem to have similar policies. Not that I agree though. I think it's like a wave going out and coming back in. Where does the wealth of England come from? It's from creating an empire and exploiting as much and as many as possible. So of course people from those countries are going to want to come and have a chance to get some of that wealth. And you can't really blame them for not wanting to fit in, for wanting to keep their own language and culture alive.
You also can't really blame the younger people of Britain for not wanting the competition from immigrants for housing and jobs. Who benefits? The wealthy. They can raise rents on the properties they own and they can get cheap labor.
But still it's wrong to treat all immigrants legal or not as if they are terrorists.
With all massively divisive issues the truth is always more complicated than either side will admit.
I set a new world record for holding my breath when reading that wall of text. Another fooking Guinness record diploma arriving by mail.
Yawn
 
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