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  1. greasetea

    greasetea Guest

    What the hoolie hoo? Moz would be embarrassed at you!

    "Oh Mimi..we all lovey you"
    "Cinderella, please answer me, I love youzee whoozee"
    "I 30 year oyold, how color is that?"

    You are a dumb $hithead. What the f.uck are you trying to spit out? "poetical"? What tha' fu...?

    I don't know what's worse, your creepiness (and you are a creepy dildo my boy) OR Your raping of the language. I would tell you to speak Broken English, but I doubt you could even handle that. You make fortune cookie papers seem like they were written by Nick Hornby or Christina Z (yummy).

    Please, the fact that you have issues are so clear. The corn in Mussolini's dung has more value than your wasted sack of 30 year old, uncircumcised skinflip. Kill yourself or get AIDS or something.

    Boz hates you too.

    My face leaves tomorrow, please DON'T be on it..I fear the crabs that live there. And you better check on your lactating problem...
     
  2. Somnium

    Somnium Guest

    Re: What the hoolie hoo? Moz would be embarrassed at you!

    Thank you dear... you are so sweet. Are you in love with me?
     
  3. greasetea

    greasetea Guest

    Re: What the hoolie hoo? Moz would be embarrassed at you!

    perhaps you should ask mimi that question jackass..or better yet, ask cinders..but either way you will go on having gay fantasies of me and masturbate thinking how lovely it would be as you sucked me off...I'm flattered and yet disgusted.
     
  4. Somnium

    Somnium Guest

    Re:miss greasetea

    NO, NO, sweetheart... I AM DISGUSTED with you since the beginning. I have no trouble on being your friend, but you are more interested on saying how dirty is YOUR mind. So, thanks for this horror show.
     
  5. Cinderella

    Cinderella Guest

    Re: And so am I...

    > Well, you would be nervous with a wild audience stareing at you.

    Isn't Morrisseys stance...you only feel nervous when you see the stage as somewhere you shouldn't be and I see it as somewhere I belong, so I don't really get nervous...or something along those lines...and I think it's quite common for many to be able to go out infront of tons of strangers and yet one on one contact in the 'real world' is unutterably terrifying?!

    Besides performing is Morrisseys job, its what he DOES...I'd probably get nervous stood behind a counter serving food because that's not what I do, but it doesn't bother dinner ladies now does it?!

    > Dearest, I'm not afraid at all!!!!! Cause I simply write what I
    > want, when and if I want, and if that's not good FOR ME, I
    > simply delete that, and I don't care.

    > Do you really feel lonely or you are trying to be poetical?????

    For someone who laments so over the unpleasantness in this life you can certainly be a little bitch!

    Oh and the greasetea thing...you really need to get some new lines...the you're a girl, you're a queer thing is just limp as lettuce.

    Am I being harsh? I don't know, but I have to see a real snotface person later today and I'm working myself up into the right frame of mind!

    "Oh when will this malady end?!"
     
  6. Somnium

    Somnium Guest

    Did you say bitch???

    > Isn't Morrisseys stance...you only feel nervous when you see the
    > stage as somewhere you shouldn't be and I see it as somewhere I
    > belong, so I don't really get nervous...or something along those
    > lines...and I think it's quite common for many to be able to go
    > out infront of tons of strangers and yet one on one contact in
    > the 'real world' is unutterably terrifying?!

    Yes, of course. I feel it everyday, when I need to face people, and I guess everybody feels the same. Sometimes, when I have a date, and I can't avoid that... before ,I walk until I get very tired, then I come back home, take a shower and I feel a kind of relief. Then, I go and do WHAT I HAVE TO DO. I'd love to say good bye to everybody, but everywhere you go, you have people near you. So,... FACE IT!!!!!

    > Besides performing is Morrisseys job, its what he DOES...I'd
    > probably get nervous stood behind a counter serving food because
    > that's not what I do, but it doesn't bother dinner ladies now
    > does it?!

    How can you be sure???? Those ladies need to face people every single day, and despite of their afraid, they need the money, so MAYBE they just EAT their own afraid, to face people like YOU. A face can hide more than you can imagine. I'm not sure if they are comfortable being there.

    > For someone who laments so over the unpleasantness in this life
    > you can certainly be a little bitch!

    I am not proud of being sad and depressed, so I will NOT encourage her to feel it. Do you think I like it?????

    > Oh and the greasetea thing...you really need to get some new
    > lines...the you're a girl, you're a queer thing is just limp as
    > lettuce.

    I could not care less about him, so...

    > Am I being harsh? I don't know, but I have to see a real
    > snotface person later today and I'm working myself up into the
    > right frame of mind!

    Yes, you are......but, honey, meet me in the morning, and then, you will feel like a sweet little girl.

    > "Oh when will this malady end?!"

    When you stop to be selfish.
     
  7. marrissey

    marrissey Guest

    Re: handsome groom, give her room

    > Well, you would be nervous with a wild audience stareing at you.

    not really. it depends.

    > Dearest, I'm not afraid at all!!!!! Cause I simply write what I
    > want, when and if I want, and if that's not good FOR ME, I
    > simply delete that, and I don't care.


    I knew that part. I'm interested in the part of your readers. This medium lacks vocal chords, intonation and rhythm. It can be easily misinterpreted. that's all I ever meant to say. I'm afraid for the misinterpretations.

    > Do you really feel lonely or you are trying to be poetical?????

    or merely wondering. what is it that Morrissey would be really happy with?
    He knew all this was gonna happen, someday ...

    [*]My love, wherever you are
    [*] Whatever you are
    [*] Don't lose faith
    [*] I know it's gonna happen someday
    [*] To you
    [*] Please wait ...
    [*] Please wait ...
    [*] Oh ...
    [*] Wait ...
    [*] Don't lose faith
    [*] You say that the day just never arrives
    [*] And it's never seemed so far away
    [*] Still, I know it's gonna happen someday
    [*] To you
    [*] Please wait ...
    [*] Don't lose faith [/list]

    I'd love Morrissey to be happy more than anything else.
     
  8. Somnium

    Somnium Guest

    Re: I don't know where else I can go... it's over, over, over...

    > Well, you would be nervous with a wild audience stareing at
    > you.
    > not really. it depends.

    Anyway, Morrissey was successful, and we have that photo album wich proves it. Handsome, charming, a little bored, shy, and everything else.

    > Dearest, I'm not afraid at all!!!!! Cause I simply write what
    > I

    > I knew that part. I'm interested in the part of your readers.

    Now it's my time to say...HUH???

    > This medium lacks vocal chords, intonation and rhythm. It can be
    > easily misinterpreted. that's all I ever meant to say. I'm
    > afraid for the misinterpretations.

    I'm not, cause this is something that will ever happen, despite of your efforts... or my efforts.

    > Do you really feel lonely or you are trying to be
    > poetical????? or merely wondering. what is it that Morrissey
    > would be really happy with?

    hmmm, being happy for a second, maybe. Well, I was not there, but people said different things. I am not able to judge. Maybe you could enlighten me. How about?
    > He knew all this was gonna happen, someday ...

    Oh, you mean the dvd?!!! ha ha!!!!! Sorry, dear, but if I don't laugh now, I will really dig a shallow grave.

    > My love, wherever you are
    > Whatever you are
    > Don't lose faith
    > I know it's gonna happen someday
    > To you
    > Please wait ...
    > Please wait ...
    > Oh ...
    > Wait ...
    > Don't lose faith
    > You say that the day just never arrives
    > And it's never seemed so far away
    > Still, I know it's gonna happen someday
    > To you
    > Please wait ...
    > Don't lose faith I'd love Morrissey to be happy more than
    > anything else.

    Me too, BUT... I think I would feel alone again. Can you understand?
     
  9. marrissey

    marrissey Guest

    "and the sycophantic slags all say ..."

    > Anyway, Morrissey was successful, and we have that photo album
    > wich proves it. Handsome, charming, a little bored, shy, and
    > everything else.

    oh - why a past tense?

    > Now it's my time to say...HUH???
    > I'm not, cause this is something that will ever happen, despite
    > of your efforts... or my efforts.

    > hmmm, being happy for a second, maybe. Well, I was not there,
    > but people said different things. I am not able to judge. Maybe
    > you could enlighten me. How about?

    check out Wilde's petit poème en prose "The Artist". You'll know. (if you can't find it, let me know. I'll quote it).

    > Oh, you mean the dvd?!!! ha ha!!!!! Sorry, dear, but if I don't
    > laugh now, I will really dig a shallow grave.

    Oh no. Not the DVD, Somny. What does a dvd mean to a man who's been making music for over 18 years? It's a medium, a way of wrapping.
    I meant that attitude of about 99,8% of the "fans" of "give us an album and do it now". He perfectly knew that part. Very well. Don't forget, Morrissey can look into your soul much better than any shrink could do. He knows, he has been there. And it IS very saddening to see that/how things do indeed happen as you feared they might happen someday. As if your own input never mattered.
    you know what could happen then.

    > Me too, BUT... I think I would feel alone again. Can you
    > understand?

    yes, I think. But you don't want to blame Morrissey for that. I mean, I wouldn't cling to what he says or sings, but to the way in which he lives. This man breathes music. He is art. And art can save lives. That's the spirit, but I guess you know that.

    Caged birds sing, free birds communicate. If we ever want Morrissey to reach the free bird stage, we'll have to let go someday. He knows he'll always be around, and we should know he'll always be around.
    That is trust. The antidote to solitude?

    Ah. Buy me a drink now, Somny!
     
  10. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    Re: "and the sycophantic slags all say ..."

    > oh - why a past tense?

    > check out Wilde's petit poème en prose "The Artist".
    > You'll know. (if you can't find it, let me know. I'll quote it).

    > Oh no. Not the DVD, Somny. What does a dvd mean to a man who's
    > been making music for over 18 years? It's a medium, a way of
    > wrapping.
    > I meant that attitude of about 99,8% of the "fans" of
    > "give us an album and do it now". He perfectly knew
    > that part. Very well. Don't forget, Morrissey can look into your
    > soul much better than any shrink could do. He knows, he has been
    > there. And it IS very saddening to see that/how things do indeed
    > happen as you feared they might happen someday. As if your own
    > input never mattered.
    > you know what could happen then.

    From where I stand, HE acts like his input never mattered. Don't you notice how he fetters away opportunities? He can find a label. You can't tell me that some bozos in Austin with no following can get signed, and this guy who sells out large arenas can't. But if he's waiting for a large McLabel to give him exactly what he wants, then he might as well stop and realize that he might need to move onto something smaller if his art matters so much.

    From what I see, Sire would be happy to have him. If only all of us could get our asses kissed by a label that we dumped several years ago. You can almost hear Howie sniffling to hold back the tears as Moz gets in his car after the signing and drives off into the sunset.

    I'm glad that he did get out of the house and meet his fans face to face. Reading what they write around here is one thing, and seeing a mass of faces at a darkened venue is another, but watching as they all are reduced to tears is quite something else.

    Forgive me, but i don't understand the big stink surrounding this signing. It's not like he's never been at a signing, and it's not like he's never released a "best of" collection.

    > yes, I think. But you don't want to blame Morrissey for that. I
    > mean, I wouldn't cling to what he says or sings, but to the way
    > in which he lives. This man breathes music. He is art. And art
    > can save lives. That's the spirit, but I guess you know that.

    > Caged birds sing, free birds communicate. If we ever want
    > Morrissey to reach the free bird stage, we'll have to let go
    > someday. He knows he'll always be around, and we should know
    > he'll always be around.
    > That is trust. The antidote to solitude?

    I'll bet you $10 that if he saw someone in the same place you describe, he wouldn't give them any space.
     
  11. greasetea

    greasetea Guest

    Re: Mr. "Me engrish not well so good speakee" is a tch???

    If you so as little look at her, let alone meet her in the morning..I will stab your tongue with an AIDS infected needle, jab your pancake ass with a a syringe filled with Ebola Zaire and water your watse of skin with my urine (and I will drinka s little water as possible so you cannot wash off the smell penisnose!)

    Greasetea 2000!
     
  12. marrissey

    marrissey Guest

    Re: "and the sycophantic slags all say ..."

    > From where I stand, HE acts like his input never mattered. Don't
    > you notice how he fetters away opportunities? He can find a
    > label. You can't tell me that some bozos in Austin with no
    > following can get signed, and this guy who sells out large
    > arenas can't. But if he's waiting for a large McLabel to give
    > him exactly what he wants, then he might as well stop and
    > realize that he might need to move onto something smaller if his
    > art matters so much.

    I thought labels were there for the artists, not the other way round. But, well, this whole cruel industry is looking for revenge.
    Now, honestly, from where I'm sitting, I feel he doesn't act as if his input never mattered. He knows it mattered. He wanted it to matter, and still does. I'm one hundred, if not two hundred, procent on his side if he only wants the best. Why would he have to compromise? He's selling his life.

    > From what I see, Sire would be happy to have him. If only all of
    > us could get our asses kissed by a label that we dumped several
    > years ago. You can almost hear Howie sniffling to hold back the
    > tears as Moz gets in his car after the signing and drives off
    > into the sunset.

    Klein, in his Sire or Reprise outfit, is no doubt keen. !OE! was their job as well, but was it a good one?

    > I'm glad that he did get out of the house and meet his fans face
    > to face. Reading what they write around here is one thing, and
    > seeing a mass of faces at a darkened venue is another, but
    > watching as they all are reduced to tears is quite something
    > else.

    Oh yes, it IS something else. A procession of tears. Enough is too much, too. It's also very annoying chainwork, it seems. And timing was bad, I feel. Sure, he's done that before, but Morrissey's not a signing robot. Suppose he feels that it's precisely his autograph that is making the dvd a really great experience for the fans ... that would be a saddening thought, wouldn't it?

    > Forgive me, but i don't understand the big stink surrounding
    > this signing. It's not like he's never been at a signing, and
    > it's not like he's never released a "best of"
    > collection.

    > I'll bet you $10 that if he saw someone in the same place you
    > describe, he wouldn't give them any space.

    OK, bet accepted. "Rien ne va plus". Let Morrissey make the decision. He's a very wise man.

    floating on time's tidal waves,
    marrissey
     
  13. Suzanne

    Suzanne Guest

    Re: "and the sycophantic slags all say ..."

    > I thought labels were there for the artists, not the other way
    > round.

    Isn't that what I'm saying? Labels are there for money and to exploit artists out of it.

    >But, well, this whole cruel industry is looking for
    > revenge.
    > Now, honestly, from where I'm sitting, I feel he doesn't act as
    > if his input never mattered. He knows it mattered. He wanted it
    > to matter, and still does. I'm one hundred, if not two hundred,
    > procent on his side if he only wants the best. Why would he have
    > to compromise? He's selling his life.

    But don't you understand? Because he was sort of dropped from a label, it's not really the same sort of bargaining power you can go to a table with against a company who owns movie studios, magazine chains, television stations, as well as record labels all over the world. Dealing with any one artist who didn't sell 8 million albums last time is not going to be high on their priority list. They're not going to give him the same consideration and respect of a smaller label, if that's what he's looking for.

    > Klein, in his Sire or Reprise outfit, is no doubt keen. !OE! was
    > their job as well, but was it a good one?

    I have no idea as I have no way of seeing it.

    > Oh yes, it IS something else. A procession of tears. Enough is
    > too much, too. It's also very annoying chainwork, it seems. And
    > timing was bad, I feel. Sure, he's done that before, but
    > Morrissey's not a signing robot. Suppose he feels that it's
    > precisely his autograph that is making the dvd a really great
    > experience for the fans ... that would be a saddening thought,
    > wouldn't it?

    Then, why show up at all? I assume with a label he is no longer with, he has the edge to say, "I'm not signing this in the manner you tell me"

    What can they do? Sue for damages of the cost of 600 DVDs he could have signed?

    All I know is that someone was being "cute" by letting David T break the big announcement to all the internerds that something "big" was about to happen. My assumption is that person is Morrissey, and if he was too ashamed to tell people to tune in, he would not have bothered saying anything.

    > OK, bet accepted. "Rien ne va plus". Let Morrissey
    > make the decision. He's a very wise man.
     
  14. marrissey

    marrissey Guest

    Re: "but we can't always have it our way"

    > Isn't that what I'm saying? Labels are there for money and to
    > exploit artists out of it.

    ... maybe in the next world. you're right, that's a fact. But do we have to bow and say "hello it's me, please, thank you"? I think not. All these pop labels think quantity equals quality. In my very mundane opinion, they could learn quite a lot from classical music labels. Oh, they make money too, you know; but they're not afraid to spend it on little jewels that won't make money, but make a reputation or a valid contribution. For the happy few? So be it. I always liked the cherries more than the jam.

    > But don't you understand?

    Uh, clearly not. Brain's on holiday. You'll forgive me. (chuckles)

    > Because he was sort of dropped from a
    > label, it's not really the same sort of bargaining power you can
    > go to a table with against a company who owns movie studios,
    > magazine chains, television stations, as well as record labels
    > all over the world. Dealing with any one artist who didn't sell
    > 8 million albums last time is not going to be high on their
    > priority list. They're not going to give him the same
    > consideration and respect of a smaller label, if that's what
    > he's looking for.

    I think he still has the right to expect that from bigger labels. He's had enough trouble with the smaller ones.

    > I have no idea as I have no way of seeing it.
    > Then, why show up at all? I assume with a label he is no longer
    > with, he has the edge to say, "I'm not signing this in the
    > manner you tell me"

    he's not only very wise, he's also very kind.

    > What can they do? Sue for damages of the cost of 600 DVDs he
    > could have signed?

    Oh, their revenge would have been much more subtle. They know how difficult it is for him to refuse, now, here. It's not his money they're after.

    > All I know is that someone was being "cute" by letting
    > David T break the big announcement to all the internerds that
    > something "big" was about to happen. My assumption is
    > that person is Morrissey, and if he was too ashamed to tell
    > people to tune in, he would not have bothered saying anything.

    I don't believe it was Morrissey. Except if Morrissey is to be intended as a collective, but I can't see it that way.
     
  15. Suzanne

    Suzanne Guest

    Re: "but we can't always have it our way"

    > ... maybe in the next world. you're right, that's a fact. But do
    > we have to bow and say "hello it's me, please, thank
    > you"? I think not. All these pop labels think quantity
    > equals quality. In my very mundane opinion, they could learn
    > quite a lot from classical music labels. Oh, they make money
    > too, you know; but they're not afraid to spend it on little
    > jewels that won't make money, but make a reputation or a valid
    > contribution. For the happy few? So be it. I always liked the
    > cherries more than the jam.

    At one time, many of these labels did that. They developed artists with the money they got from the big sellers. Now, they hire nothing but big sellers and pocket all that money for themselves.

    > Uh, clearly not. Brain's on holiday. You'll forgive me.
    > (chuckles)

    > I think he still has the right to expect that from bigger
    > labels. He's had enough trouble with the smaller ones.

    Well, he's definitely not the kind to go roughing it, that's for sure. Truthfully, i can't imagine him being signed to anything where they don't throw him big enough gobs of money where he can go spoil himself with $4000 pairs of jeans.

    Of course, if i owned an article of clothing like that, I'd probably frame it, but that's just me.

    > he's not only very wise, he's also very kind.

    > Oh, their revenge would have been much more subtle. They know
    > how difficult it is for him to refuse, now, here. It's not his
    > money they're after.

    What sort of revenge can they do other than shooting themselves in the foot? He's already left them. You can't ruin the career of a guy who has no plans of releasing an album anytime soon, and has a pack of fans who would show up on his doorstep and kiss his feet even if he was slaughtering small babies on his front lawn.

    > I don't believe it was Morrissey. Except if Morrissey is to be
    > intended as a collective, but I can't see it that way.

    Oh pish, Moz reads this website. Moz even wrote a letter to be stuck on the news page. David seemed more than loyal to follow the "do not open until oct 9th" instructions, which if it was a record label coming to bother him, i don't think he would have tried so much to protect the info.
     
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