Labour pains - Jared O'Mara (Labour MP) posts on Morrissey-solo from 2002 quoted - Guido Fawkes

Vile Homophobic Slurs of Jared O'Mara - Guido Fawkes

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Today Guido revealed the multiple sexist comments of Labour MP Jared O’Mara.Now the vile homophobic slurs of the Sheffield Hallam MP can be exposed…

O’Mara’s derogatory language on the ‘Morrissey Solo’ website message board includes calling homosexuals “fudge packers” who “drive up the Marmite motorway”. He says gay people are “bitter and resentful about being homosexual”.

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Some important points:

1. The reason this guy is being discussed is because he's involved in politics, works on an equalities committee, and used an email address that contained his identity.

So, for all you who are paranoid and seem to think that anyone knows or cares who you are, or what you think, don't go on a bigoted rampage online and under your own name. If you do, then don't become a public figure. Problem solved.

2. Reading his diatribes, I found it humorous that he compared having cerebral palsy to a gay person seeking civil rights. They're gay, not crippled Jared. Most can use their arms.

Families disowning their children while the physically handicapped receive protections, accommodations and public awareness, is hardly a comparable situation.

They can do something about their legal roadblocks. Maybe that's where his resentment came from. They can do something to change their status. Jared will always have cerebral palsy.

Sometimes people with physical handicapps fail to develop empathy and can be real assholes. The bullied become the bullies.

Finally, he could have said he was trolling and playing an antagonist, but he seemed to have some well developed ideas on the matter, and so he probably had little choice but to go with the recovering addict style apology.

Did I mention that he used an email address with his name in it to make these comments?

Only people with terrible judgment do that as an adult.

I hope the Internet takes down more public figures who were dumb enough to that. Let it be a bloodbath.

The Internet has always been a safe space for cretins, but it didn't reach this far into society until social media and youtube took off. Now these scumbags are everywhere, and they are creating a toxic society.
 
Wow - people are dredging up posts from 2002? Can anyone really be held to account for something they said 15 years ago (f*** know what bollocks I was talking back then)
I can be. ...as can anyone who’s had a modicum of tact, taste and class - throughout their lives. If you were a dick 15 years ago, I’d venture to say you’re still a dick now.
 
I see meself in that 2002 item, as someone,or more wrote, I remember his nick....but didn't know his real name, as for email adresses, I had a deja com email, same as gmail now'

About his homphobic rants, mr MP's is defending his homophobic comments because he was young, but now 15 years on He does it again, but as MP, I dearly wish his days as MP are counted, this man does not give the people's voice .

Low MP
 
Guido Fawkes (aka Paul Staines) is an extreme right wing Conservative. He operates outside of the party, but is part of their pernicious media establishment. The Taxpayers Alliance is another example of this. Staines is currently trawling up dirt on any pro Corbyn Labour figure he can find. Doing the Tories grubby work for them, at arms length.

I'm not defending the homophobic comments, and have it on good authority that Jared O'Mara will be suspended from the Labour Party later on today. Meanwhile the Tories still have Boris Johnson in the cabinet. A misogynist, racist, working class hating, lieing idiot.
 
people are moaning about this guys comments on gays,yet they stick up for islam who throw gays off very tall buildings.pot kettle black anyone.
 
It is clearly time for a suffragettes comeback and women going on sex strikes.
the day women go on a sex strike is the day I take up masturbation.
 
people are moaning about this guys comments on gays,yet they stick up for islam who throw gays off very tall buildings.pot kettle black anyone.

Oh, get lost. No one is sticking up for Islamic extremists. Only a tiny fraction of Muslims are extremists. The fact that you would even equate the two shows that you're not serious about the discussion. People are attacking the mob hysteria that leads to peaceful people being marginalized and harassed due to small-minded tribal rage.

These people are citizens in your own country. They are not outsiders, and they are not guilty.

The people who make laws in your country, and the people who harass homosexuals, and bully them in your country have a greater impact on the lives of homosexuals than Islamic extremists in other countries do.

Your rhetoric only enables, and intensifies extremism. It does nothing to lessen it. You're part of the problem.

I doubt you give two shits what happens to gay people. You have an irrational obsession with Islamic extremists as if that's they most important problem in your country right now. Get the thumb out of your mouth, and get some perspective. By nature, your own countrymen pose a greater threat to you than Islamic extremists.
 
Islam isn’t throwing gays off of buildings, a jihadist militant group is. Speaking as a gay person, "regular" homophobia has caused me a lot more grief and suffering in my life than Islam.

Plus, I don’t see why we can’t condemn both homophobia and Islamic extremism, independent of each other.
 
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Masturbation is the closest you're likely to get to having a sex life. Go for it. You could die tomorrow.
I'm a sexual athlete I will have you know.
 
Sad. Remember reading the Guardian interview on the occasion of his election and thinking what an achievement it was, despite his disability.

Being part of a minority or two (and confronting ablists) apparently didn't make him stop and think about making disparaging comments about other minorities.
 
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Is there anyway the mods can ensure e-mail addys are removed even from posts 15 f***ing yeas ago?

I've said things on here which I'm not proud of (probably) but as far as I am aware I am not a public figure.

Shocking that throwaway comments made on a Morrissey website as a 21yo can scupper your career 15 years later. Guess this is the Orwellian nightmare all of us have signed up to.
 
I'm pretty sure David Cameron used to post here back in the day, and he came out with some well dodgy stuff!
 
The people who make laws in your country, and the people who harass homosexuals, and bully them in your country have a greater impact on the lives of homosexuals than Islamic extremists in other countries do..

Being called a nasty name in the street is apparently far, far worse than being thrown off the local multi-storey car park in front of a baying mob. Got it.

Are you sure you aren’t sticking up for extremists?
 
Some important points:

1. The reason this guy is being discussed is because he's involved in politics, works on an equalities committee, and used an email address that contained his identity.

So, for all you who are paranoid and seem to think that anyone knows or cares who you are, or what you think, don't go on a bigoted rampage online and under your own name. If you do, then don't become a public figure. Problem solved.

2. Reading his diatribes, I found it humorous that he compared having cerebral palsy to a gay person seeking civil rights. They're gay, not crippled Jared. Most can use their arms.

Families disowning their children while the physically handicapped receive protections, accommodations and public awareness, is hardly a comparable situation.

They can do something about their legal roadblocks. Maybe that's where his resentment came from. They can do something to change their status. Jared will always have cerebral palsy.

Sometimes people with physical handicapps fail to develop empathy and can be real assholes. The bullied become the bullies.

Finally, he could have said he was trolling and playing an antagonist, but he seemed to have some well developed ideas on the matter, and so he probably had little choice but to go with the recovering addict style apology.

Did I mention that he used an email address with his name in it to make these comments?

Only people with terrible judgment do that as an adult.

I hope the Internet takes down more public figures who were dumb enough to that. Let it be a bloodbath.


The Internet has always been a safe space for cretins, but it didn't reach this far into society until social media and youtube took off. Now these scumbags are everywhere, and they are creating a toxic society.

An interesting perspective but some highly dubious conclusions.

There have been constant attempts to 'sanitise' discussion on the WWW by politicians on behalf of Corporations who have no interest in 'free speech' and only seek to data-mine people's identities to throw advertising at them or sell their IDs to advertisers. And this site is an important example of the 'resistance' to those attempts to make debate on the Web as boring, middle-class & insincere as all debate is in the UK Parliament. Those people are terrified of 'free speech'. They use 'outlier' issues like genuine threats to people's safety to try and instigate a far more wide-reaching censorship on what is 'acceptable' thought and discourse. They can f*** right off.

Nothing on the internet is 'private'. It never has been. Some of us realised this early on and trolled the very notion of 'privacy', 'anonymity' and 'pseudoanonymity'. It's not just MI5 chasing ISIS who can track everything you do, it's bog standard 'data mining' advertising companies who track your movements from site to site and can forensically examine your data vapour trail to link you to the 'real' person. I've no doubt there's now a black market in internet forensics for Human Resources departments to vet candidates. The real fun will be when MPs porn browsing histories are revealed. And then linked to individual MPs.

House of Porn. Over 300,000 attempts to access adult websites made in UK Parliament in a year

https://www.joe.ie/index.php/news/h...bsites-made-in-uk-parliament-in-a-year-370306


Jared decided to 'confess' & agree to the linking & merging of an online identity to his 'real life' identity but as you point out, he had other options. He could have simply dismissed it as Online Performance Art. The whole issue of 'online performativity' and how it relates to the 'real world' is at the cutting edge of contemporary art. We see it in the deliberate blurring of identities in artists like Larry David, Frank Hvam & Casper Cristhensen. I even have a lingering suspicion that Morrissey is doing exactly the same thing to ensure he cannot be reliably parsed by his online statements. All make provocative, 'outrageous' statements as part of their 'screen' personas but anyone with a brain can see that they are deliberately f***ing with the surveillance matrix, whether it be that of the paparazzi-press-police or the politicians. Do we assign the scripts of 'South Park' as honest, reliable testimonies from Matt & Trey? What is the difference between the above named 'official' artists culture-jamming 'screen personas' and those of any common variety Facebook ranter, Instagram vanity project & Twitter troll? Or anybody wasting their time on this site? At what point did anyone sign up to any of that? They didn't. Or at least they didnt' realise that's what they signed up to...but some people knew all along that the Internet was a surveillance hoax. It will be interesting to see if these 'high art' cultural resistance protests spread to the masses. I've long advocated making your online 'presence' contradictory & illogical. I have a feeling that will have to become an act of mass rebellion against Corporate surveillance in years to come. If everybody 'liked' everything they don't 'like' on Facebook for a few days, their alogrithms collapse, their data is meaningless & they have nothing to sell to advertisers. Online Performativity as Political Protest. However, I doubt that was Jared's intention and I doubt it's Morrisseys, though he may surprise me yet...

What happened was the Corporations wanted to make the internet a 'safe space' so they could harvest the data of the suburban 'normals' who were too scared/intimidated by the initial Wild West debate. It has everything to do with harvesting profit and absolutely nothing to do with political sincerity. That's why Twitter is now a graveyard as 'problematic' voices are censored. Next up YouTube...

The real 'toxic society' isn't arising from 'free speech' on the internet, it's arising from the attempts to stifle that freedom by politicians, moralists and Corporations. The conflict arising from 'triggered' SJW moralists on US & UK university campuses is just another example of this Orwellian attempt to f*** up the internet. In a world where ISIS openly use the Web to plan mass murder, getting hysterical about politically incorrect opinion from 15 years ago from somebody who has clearly changed his outlook is just another example of '1st World Problems'. No wonder the European Union is getting worked up about the 'right to be forgotten' as their Human Resources teams vet the internet porn histories of MEPs! LOL! It's only a matter of time till that dam bursts.

Your final comment claims that only those who agree to adhere to the politically correct speech & thought codes of the BBC, NYT and Guardian enclaves have a right to voice their opinions. How conveniently that aligns with the desires of Corporations for a sanitised Internet where harmless cat memes are traded and goods and services sold to a pliant submissive population.

One can only hope that the comment histories beneath articles on Order-Order.com are someday matched to the MPs who made them. It will be amusing to watch them explain that their online performativity isn't a reliable guide to their real-world convictions as set out at the hustings...

It begins with 'banning' the Daily Stormer (an impossible task) then it moves on to 'banning' opinions we disagree with on Social Media by insisting Twitter 'ban' anyone who isn't part of our Thought Regime. It ends with Governments like China openly dismantling the very concept of Free Speech in league with Global Corporations looking for profit. And sanctimonious Guardian writers acting as custodians of 'correct thinking on the Internet'. f*** that.

Careful what you wish for...

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...red-o-mara-homophobic-sexist-internet-history

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ignificantly-since-posting-offensive-comments


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Oh, get lost. No one is sticking up for Islamic extremists. Only a tiny fraction of Muslims are extremists. The fact that you would even equate the two shows that you're not serious about the discussion. People are attacking the mob hysteria that leads to peaceful people being marginalized and harassed due to small-minded tribal rage.

These people are citizens in your own country. They are not outsiders, and they are not guilty.

The people who make laws in your country, and the people who harass homosexuals, and bully them in your country have a greater impact on the lives of homosexuals than Islamic extremists in other countries do.

Your rhetoric only enables, and intensifies extremism. It does nothing to lessen it. You're part of the problem.

I doubt you give two shits what happens to gay people. You have an irrational obsession with Islamic extremists as if that's they most important problem in your country right now. Get the thumb out of your mouth, and get some perspective. By nature, your own countrymen pose a greater threat to you than Islamic extremists.

Total nonsense. No serious person imagines the Orlando bomber wasn't influenced by Islamic extremists in other countries. And as a totally non-heterosexual man, I'd much prefer to deal with Jared's silly comments that a bomb in a nightclub. Thanks.

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Orlando shooting: Gunman Omar Mateen was a closet homosexual, say friends - as wife faces charges after 'helping him scope out attack'

Religion: Mateen prayed at his local mosque four times a week and had pledged his allegiance to the Islamic State


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-regular-at-lgbt-nightclub-pulse-before-atta/
 
Islam isn’t throwing gays off of buildings, a jihadist militant group is. Speaking as a gay person, "regular" homophobia has caused me a lot more grief and suffering in my life than Islam.

Plus, I don’t see why we can’t condemn both homophobia and Islamic extremism, independent of each other.

That's probably because you don't live under Sharia Law.
 
Is there anyway the mods can ensure e-mail addys are removed even from posts 15 f***ing yeas ago?

I've said things on here which I'm not proud of (probably) but as far as I am aware I am not a public figure.

Shocking that throwaway comments made on a Morrissey website as a 21yo can scupper your career 15 years later. Guess this is the Orwellian nightmare all of us have signed up to.

Who is this 'I' you are referring to? 'Bluebirds'? Are you saying that your online persona/performativity narrative is a reliable guide to your Real Life persona? Really? Well, that's your choice to make if you want to. Just as Jared has done. But I wouldn't worry too much about the past. It's the future you need to be concerned of. There is a concerted attempt to force young people to 'police' their own online identities so that they are 'job-ready'. The same is happening with 'university debate'. It's the beginnings of a totalitarian clampdown on personal freedom to neuter the threat of Free Speech on the internet. This site is an amusing hold-out from the process....for now....LOL!

 

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