Kill Uncle appreciation thread

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  1. Mr. Jackpots

    Mr. Jackpots quite right, slick

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    I love this album. I always have. Maybe because it was the first one I ever heard, and it was brand new when I discovered him. But I don't think it's nostalgia. I actually really do love the album. And I think that Asian Rut is an interesting song because it's occasionally heralded as proof of his openness to multiculturalism (by those who try to claim he's not a racist) but it's actually about a drug addled violent vengeful Asian guy waging an impotent war on skinheads. Morrissey, the fly on the wall, is simply wondering why the violence needs to occur at all...in other words, why the problem has to exist in the first place.

    I think it's definitely possible Morrissey has racist proclivities. I'm not even going to try to say otherwise. But I also think he's much more a nationalist than a dyed in the wool "racist" and I think too that to a certain degree in MOST people (of any color) racism is a natural instinct. I'm not saying it's good; I'm just saying it's there. I do not think he'd ever condone violence or segregation.Well. Not violence anyway.

    Regarding his views on nationalism or Islam or whatever...I think that when he called out May and Sadiq Kahn two years ago with his retort "an extreme what? An extreme rabbit?" because they admitted the attack was by extremists but stopped short of saying extreme Islamists (who proudly took credit for the attack immediately) his point was that the PC culture sanitized the truth to a point he could not stomach.

    He's not a racist. Well, maybe he's a bit of a racist. But there are good racists with no hate in their heart. Look at the true blue eyes of Archie Bunker in the night.

    Anyway I love Kill Uncle.





     
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  2. bhops

    bhops Last of the famous international screw ups.

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    This may be a lonely thread for you buddy, LOL. For me it is like a lot of Moz's solo records, an 'almost' album. had he taken a couple of tracks out and replaced them two of the songs you've posted and maybe dialed up the rockabilly like the live versions you could've had a classic.
     
  3. GodEmperorMorrissey

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    Underrated. Sing Your Life, Driving Your Girlfriend Home, There's A Place In Hell For Me And My Friends, End Of The Family line are excellent The rest is good.
     
  4. Mr. Jackpots

    Mr. Jackpots quite right, slick

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    It's not perfect. Harsh Truth has all the verve of a crippled septuagenarian. The sequencing is not great. There's an overall flat, airy feel to the sound.

    But the songs are, by and large, superb.
     
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  5. Ketamine Sun

    Ketamine Sun Why do Moz haters obsessively visit solo?

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    I think they’re fine songs that have been let down by the production.

    They would be interesting to hear live with M’s present band, give them a punch.
     
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  6. Light Housework

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    I adore Harsh Truth
     
  7. Mr. Jackpots

    Mr. Jackpots quite right, slick

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    I do too. It just stops the album dead.
     
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    Light Housework Well-Known Member Subscriber

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    It ded
     
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  9. Mr. Jackpots

    Mr. Jackpots quite right, slick

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    It really do be like that, tho
     
  10. Light Housework

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    Naw
     
  11. Mr. Jackpots

    Mr. Jackpots quite right, slick

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    Orange man bad
     
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  12. bhops

    bhops Last of the famous international screw ups.

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    Harsh Truth, Family Line and even Asian Rut which I know a lot of folks love. These are 3 I would straight swap out. If only the Pregnant/Love Life sessions had been at the same time, you could've cobbled together one of the GREAT albums, with better production. Overall though I do like it.
     
  13. !Viva Hate!

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    Yeah, a punch to the balls that makes the song collapse in on itself in a ball of pain and disharmony.

    “Hey, I hear that song you like is on the set list...it’d be a shame if...someone happened to it, wouldn’t it?”
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  14. Mr. Jackpots

    Mr. Jackpots quite right, slick

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  15. Mr. Jackpots

    Mr. Jackpots quite right, slick

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    Ideal Kill Uncle:

    The Loop
    Our Frank
    Mute Witness
    Sing Your Life
    Asian Rut
    King Leer

    Driving Your Girlfriend Home
    Found Found Found
    Tony The Pony
    (I'm) The End Of The Family Line
    There's a Place In Hell for Me and My Friends
     
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  16. bhops

    bhops Last of the famous international screw ups.

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    This is actually pretty close but unfortunately I have slight OCD and having an album with 11 tracks is just too much for me to deal with, LOL. I really wish The Loop & Tony the Pony had been in there.
     
  17. Mr. Jackpots

    Mr. Jackpots quite right, slick

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    I'm the same way, brother. 11 bothers me. 12 is ideal but if you divorce it from the anachronistic vinyl/cassette bullshit then the side equity is moot.
     
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  18. dotmatrix522

    dotmatrix522 Hey, how’s it going?

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    I’ve always enjoyed this album too. It’s a shame that Morrissey has disowned it.
    “Mute Witness” is one of my favorite songs, I just love the crazy little world that story creates. And “Our Frank” is a classic in my book, and the video is so good too.
    I was impressed with the remastered version that got released a few years ago as I thought it sounded way better and crisper...though I love the original artwork and could never condone changing it!
     
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  19. Mr. Jackpots

    Mr. Jackpots quite right, slick

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    So great.


     
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  20. Ketamine Sun

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