Julia Riley

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Re: who said i cut, because i never ... (except once)

> I don't know who you are, but I saw Angela & ugly Mel at the
> front of the line in Tempe when they weren't there when the line
> formed. Maybe someone was holding their place--that's
> convenient.

oh hello there. i usually don't post to these board. just wanted you to know that i was at the front of the line just to say hi to mel, who had rightfully been waiting all day. i then went back to the hotel, updated the web page, took a nap, came back to club rio around 6:30 then went to the end of the line.

even after i was at the end of the line i spent another 20 minutes at the will call line waiting for my press pass.

so i wish i were there in the front, but i just wasn't.
 
Re: Front Row Selfishness

Christ, I love Morrissey's belly button.
 
all from a frickin webzine

> oh hello there. i usually don't post to these board. just wanted
> you to know that i was at the front of the line just to say hi
> to mel, who had rightfully been waiting all day. i then went
> back to the hotel, updated the web page, took a nap, came back
> to club rio around 6:30 then went to the end of the line.

> even after i was at the end of the line i spent another 20
> minutes at the will call line waiting for my press pass.

say, isn't there a special section for journos to stand in? it makes it sort of useless if you are still relegated to the back of the arena along with the rest of the nobodies...

> so i wish i were there in the front, but i just wasn't.

backstage, perhaps?
 
Re: who said i cut, because i never ... (except once)

Just a slight correction on your part, Angela - YOU did cut! I was waiting in line at Club Rio trailing those ridiculous stairs to get to the entrance with some friends and you just slid your way past me and heaven knows how many others.

It must have been about 7ish or so, I don't remember and I really don't care since it is in the past and maybe you were just running back to the car to grab some extra film or so and then getting yourself back in line with your girls - who knows?

> oh hello there. i usually don't post to these board. just wanted
> you to know that i was at the front of the line just to say hi
> to mel, who had rightfully been waiting all day. i then went
> back to the hotel, updated the web page, took a nap, came back
> to club rio around 6:30 then went to the end of the line.

> even after i was at the end of the line i spent another 20
> minutes at the will call line waiting for my press pass.

> so i wish i were there in the front, but i just wasn't.
 
Re: Front Row Selfishness

> And my attitude is that they are being extremely selfish! After
> all, people like Julia and the MorrisseyTour girls have already
> been in the front on numerous occasions, but for many other
> people at the show, this may be the only show they're catching
> this tour or it may be the very first Moz show they've EVER seen
> - so why should the fortunate few who attend dozens of shows be
> granted the honor of the front row every single night? It's a
> supreme act of selfishness, and I don't think I could live with
> myself if I did that

Have you ever considered that height could be the reason for repeat front row appearances? If I'm not on the front row, I can't see @#!!! in the pit. And, frankly, if you're not in the pit, it's just not that much fun, as far as I'm concerned. I would love to go to a Morrissey show and NOT be on the front row and just be in the pit. I find the front row to be painful and would love to no longer be on it. But, if I get off the front row and stay in the pit, you know what the show looks like to me: someone's arm pit, back, etc. Is it selfish to want to actually *see* the show?
 
> Morrissey often recognizes her, and at the Seattle show
> interacted with her twice. First he said, "I have to go
> check on how Julia is doing" and proceeded to have a
> conversation with her. Then, during Break Up The Family, grabbed
> her hand and sang the line "Let me see all my old
> friends..." directly to her.
He's been doing that alot this tour. I think he's humouring her because she's scary and a bag of loons. Give her a gun and she's John David Chapman.

> Some fans don't like her because
she cuts the queue
 
Re: in Julia Riley's defense

>But I do wish people would leave
> Julia alone. She's certainly never done a thing to deserve such
> disdain.

That's great sweetie. I was at a show once. Once we were let in, I ran to the barrier. Held a place on the barrier for my friend who was behind me in line. And, Julia came up and literally swiped my hand away and moved into the place I was holding for my friend. And before ya'll start to snipe, my friend was actually in line ahead of Julia; she just got held up in the strip search. So, my friend actually had more rights to a barrier spot than Julia.
 
Re: Front Row Selfishness

> Have you ever considered that height could be the reason for
> repeat front row appearances? If I'm not on the front row, I
> can't see @#!!! in the pit. And, frankly, if you're not in the
> pit, it's just not that much fun, as far as I'm concerned. I
> would love to go to a Morrissey show and NOT be on the front row
> and just be in the pit. I find the front row to be painful and
> would love to no longer be on it. But, if I get off the front
> row and stay in the pit, you know what the show looks like to
> me: someone's arm pit, back, etc. Is it selfish to want to
> actually *see* the show?

No - and I know exactly what you mean because I'm 5'2" and I usually avoid the pit because of this. If I can't get to the very front, it's all shoulder blades and armpits for me. But, you know, there is such a thing as avoiding the pit altogether. Try the balcony or the seats back from the pit some time - you get a great view of the stage, comfort, and if you bring binoculars you get a nice close-up view of Mozzer. Some may say that this is too impersonal - it's too far away - and I totally understand that. We all want to be as close to him as possible. But my attitude is that if you're seeing every show on the tour, do you really need to see every single one from the front??? You've already had your "moments" with Morrissey - probably many of them. Let someone else have a chance to have a moment with him as well, and try out a different perspective for a change. I've seen some of the most amazing things from the balcony - like the second S.F. show in '97 where the fans were clawing over each other, crowd surfing, trying desperately to get onstage, and you could see the entire crowd shifting back and forth violently. (Not to mention the dramatic moment where it appeared that the lights to the left of the stage were going to topple over onto the crowd due to a fan climbing up them.) Watching the chaos while listening to "Shoplifters..." was one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. I don't think that show would have been nearly as powerful from the pit. So, it's not always necessary to be in the pit to be devoted and to enjoy the show.


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Re: in Julia Riley's defense

> That's great sweetie. I was at a show once. Once we were let in,
> I ran to the barrier. Held a place on the barrier for my friend
> who was behind me in line. And, Julia came up and literally
> swiped my hand away and moved into the place I was holding for
> my friend. And before ya'll start to snipe, my friend was
> actually in line ahead of Julia; she just got held up in the
> strip search. So, my friend actually had more rights to a
> barrier spot than Julia.

Well, this is a side I've never really seen before, since I don't often venture to the pit, but it makes sense to me that she would behave like that. As I've stated previously, I can't abide by her selfishness at always having to be in the front, even when she's seen every Moz show since 1986. That sort of behavior is completely inexcusable to me. But in person, she's extremely nice. I think the Mozmania performs a bit of a Jeckle and Hyde on her.

Okay, I'll shut up now...


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Give someone else a chance? Bah!

> No - and I know exactly what you mean because I'm 5'2" and
> I usually avoid the pit because of this.

Hey, it's all equal opportunity. If you want your chance in the front row don't expect someone else to just give it to you. You have to arrive earlier than they do. You have to be willing to wait outside for hours, sometimes in blistering heat and sometimes in the freezing cold. Then you have to be willing to stand at the rail for another 2 hours before Morrissey comes out,while your legs slowly go numb, and then keep your position while he's playing and people are trying to push you out of their way, or they're kicking you in the head trying to get to the stage. But I have to tell you, when you are finally at the rail and Morrissey is there and he looks at you and maybe you can even touch him, all this silly cd/video/internet worship disappears and amazingly, Morrissey is a REAL person. And that realization is worth 100 years of standing in line.

God, that sounds lame.
 
Re: Front Row Selfishness

> But my attitude is that if you're seeing every show on the tour,
> do you really need to see every single one from the front???
> You've already had your "moments" with Morrissey -
> probably many of them. Let someone else have a chance to have a
> moment with him as well, and try out a different perspective for
> a change.

different strokes for different folks, as they say.

likely, if someone is devoted enough to put their life on hold follow the entire tour, they also want to be in the front for all of the shows. i don't see anything wrong with that, unless they use their influence to cut in line.

you know what you're getting into when you go to a morrissey concert: if you want to be in the front, get to the venue before noon. that's just the way it is.
 
Re: Front Row Selfishness

> Try the balcony or the seats back from the pit some time - you
> get a great view of the stage, comfort, and if you bring
> binoculars you get a nice close-up view of Mozzer. Some may say
> that this is too impersonal - it's too far away - and I totally
> understand that. We all want to be as close to him as possible.
> But my attitude is that if you're seeing every show on the tour,
> do you really need to see every single one from the front???

>I don't
> think that show would have been nearly as powerful from the pit.
> So, it's not always necessary to be in the pit to be devoted and
> to enjoy the show.

I clearly stated...or perhaps it was not clear enough...that it's not the same if you're not in the pit. I have tried it other ways and for the most part it's unfulfilling.
 
Re: Hey Comptesse!

Sorry to interrupt…

But ummh…Is this what you are looking for?

http://www.repriserec.com/jonimitchell/wordsmusic/jonimoz.ram

from:

http://www.jonimitchell.com/Frames1.html

Somebody posted it here a while back…




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Cili Barnes is not Julia Riley

> Money + time = Julia/Cili

I don't think so Charles. You're starting to frighten me.


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FINALLY!

thanks for showing us Morrissey's leather outfit. He looks hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhot.
 
Re: Give someone else a chance? Bah!

> Hey, it's all equal opportunity. If you want your chance in the
> front row don't expect someone else to just give it to you. You
> have to arrive earlier than they do. You have to be willing to
> wait outside for hours, sometimes in blistering heat and
> sometimes in the freezing cold. Then you have to be willing to
> stand at the rail for another 2 hours before Morrissey comes
> out,while your legs slowly go numb, and then keep your position
> while he's playing and people are trying to push you out of
> their way, or they're kicking you in the head trying to get to
> the stage. But I have to tell you, when you are finally at the
> rail and Morrissey is there and he looks at you and maybe you
> can even touch him, all this silly cd/video/internet worship
> disappears and amazingly, Morrissey is a REAL person. And that
> realization is worth 100 years of standing in line.

> God, that sounds lame.

No, it sounds beautiful. I know exactly how it feels. :)




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Re: Front Row Selfishness

> you know what you're getting into when you go to a morrissey
> concert: if you want to be in the front, get to the venue before
> noon. that's just the way it is.

Luckily, it's getting easier to get in the front during most Moz shows (except those crazy SoCal shows, I suppose). We got in line around 1 o'clock or so for Portland and got in the front. I remember the days when you would literally have to camp out overnight for the front row. In Sacramento in '91, I got to Cal Expo at 8 a.m. (and was in about 30th place in line) and sat out in 110 degree heat in an unshaded parking lot all day, only to wind up getting crushed in the pit and having to retreat to the seats by the second song. (My friend lost her shoe and had to stumble home with a bare foot!) But you know what's strange? I don't regret having sat in line all day for nothing because I really felt like I was part of a great, underground community and I enjoyed speaking with all those nice, stylish, dedicated fans. It's always nice to speak to people who don't go "Jim Morrison? I thought he was dead" when you mention Morrissey's name.


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