Johnny Marr on The Smiths' legacy and Morrissey: "You can't change history..." - NME

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By Kenmare on May 30, 2019 at 5:04 PM
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    Johnny Marr on The Smiths’ legacy and Morrissey: “You can’t change history. The songs are out there for people to judge” - NME


    Speaking of context, Morrissey has seen his music banned from record stores and posters removed from train stations due to his recent support of For Britain. Are you worried about a generation of people missing out on the music of The Smiths as a result?
    “No. I don’t think you can change history. I’ve said that before. I’m not worried. It’s got nothing to do with my world or my life. The songs are out there for people to judge, relate to and hear. I think that’s all going to be forgotten in a few weeks, as these things inevitably are – for better or worse. It’s always been that way. I understand the issue, but I’m used to stuff coming and going. I don’t worry about people missing out on the culture. That would be like saying to a teenage me ‘Are you worried about you and your mates missing out on The Velvet Underground?’ That was never going to happen. I know the way things go. Things come and go.”

    While we’re on the subject of Morrissey, did you see the biopic England Is Mine and how you were portrayed?

    “I honestly didn’t, and I feel bad because the guy who played me is a really nice guy and was really sincere about it. I just kept forgetting to watch that bit! I didn’t hear great things about the film, though. It just came and went for me. Luckily, I have so many things I want to think about that they distract me from all kinds of stuff.”
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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Kenmare, May 30, 2019.

    1. Trill
      “Moz gave him the boot”? Erm...
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    2. Uncleskinny
      Indeed. These Johnny-come-latelies and their revisionist agenda. It's like that meeting at Geales never happened.
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    3. gordyboy9
      Government health warning=This site may contain nuts.
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    4. BookishBoy
      Marr always comes across as so dignified and likeable when discussing these things. He's so curious about the world, and I love his optimism and positivity.

      (I also suspect that he knows, deep down, just how freakishly lucky he was at the start of his career to end up in a songwriting partnership with one of rock's greatest ever lyricists / singers / characters / oddballs while he was at the peak of his lyrical powers.)
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    5. Whizz Kid
      Whizz Kid
      I think that works both ways. Morrissey was lucky to find a guitarist/songwriter of startling originality and creativity, who appreciated and understood him in a way no one had before.
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    6. Ringing Ears
      Ringing Ears
      "I don’t think you can change history."
      No, but you have certainly ruined it with your singing Johnny. Please just sing your garbage songs and leave the Smiths songs alone.
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    7. BookishBoy
      Oh, totally agree that it works both ways, yes. And couldn't agree more that part of Marr's brilliance was in being able to understand and work with someone so odd!

      Although I'll always believe that around half* of the Smiths' songs are pretty standard pieces of musical composition/backing, elevated to genius by Morrissey's words and vocal melodies.

      *(Whereas the other half are genius on Marr's part, too.)
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    8. ACTON
      The The.
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    9. ACTON
      Great interview but I am going to be cynical and suspect that he did watch England Is Mine. It reminds me of Moz saying he "squinted across the room" at The Severed Alliance", when we all know he read the bloody thing.
      The saddest thing about Moz's portrayal in the media in recent years (most of it self induced) is that it will inform and dominate latter chapters of future editions of books like The Severed Alliance. Like a nasty dessert after a fantastic meal.
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    10. Thewlis
      Didn’t Moz recently mention there was another book from Rogan forthcoming?
      Sonehow looking forward to that actually.
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    11. ACTON
      Let them keep their films and release a good quality dvd/blu ray/4k of a couple of Smiths concerts instead.
      The Cure just released a free complete recent concert on their website.
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    12. Anonymous
      its not people its only one vegan troll that makes Moz look even more silly nowadays im afraid
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    13. Trill
      That makes sense.
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    14. Surface
      Vegan has no interest in Morrissey or Marr, he just posts shit to try and provoke a reaction. Most people have the bell end on ignore so never see his nonsense. It’s bizarre that someone would want to spend hours just spouting lies but hey, it’s his life to waste.
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    15. SweetnTenderYorkshireman
      Funny isn’t it, that everyone is always worried about Morrissey’s effect on The Smiths legacy, apart from the actual Smiths.
      Marr, Rourke and Joyce have all politely suggested that they don’t share his views or opinions, but not once have stuck the knife in to him, which i think many critics expect and hope for.
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    16. Ben Budd
      Ben Budd
      lol at Mozstans deciding they now don't like Johnny Marr when their idol would still be wandering up and down Talbot Road now if it weren't for the boy from Ardwick and his songs.
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    17. vegan cro spirit 333
      vegan cro spirit 333

      Moz giving old :handpointright::guardsman::handpointleft: the big boot, hit a nerve, didnt it??:brows:

      out the door, Mr Cometry and dont let the door hit you on your ample bottom.:laughing:

      go play with the the or hooky.make a spectable out of yourself with dumb cometry songs.:lbf:

      no more sucky:guitar: riffs :rock:

      NO MORE SUCKY DramaJ 'chords':lbf:
    18. vegan cro spirit 333
      vegan cro spirit 333
      he makes SUCKO music about comets and tracers.:crazy:
      Ever since Moz vamoosed him from the big time, he hasnt been UNable to make

      he touring some tiny club not sold out in copenhagen wearing his new blue flowery shirt.:lbf:

      poor cad, thats what they should call his never to happen movie. 'poor cad':lbf:
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    19. Trill
      Johnny Marr left The Smiths. I know this because I’m a Smiths fan.
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    20. vegan cro spirit 333
      vegan cro spirit 333



      right, he left his 'legacy':lbf:
      to go play with the cribs.:lbf::lbf:

      he couldnt play the music right so away we go, :handpointright::guardsman::handpointleft::kissingheart:

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