Johnny Marr interview in Dutch newspaper De Volkskrant; mentions Smiths split

‘Bij alles wat ik deed stonden fans en journalisten te luisteren of het wel genoeg op The Smiths leek’ - De Volkskrant

Some interesting comments by Marr on The Smiths split. Please note: these are (amateurish) translations from a (journalists) translation in Dutch.

"The best decision I ever made was running away from The Smiths. I never regretted it, it really was done. Always when somebody calls again: gee, what a shame, I think: dude, you should know. The chemistry between Morrissey and me had worked out. We weren't friends, the only thing that tied us were shared musical preferences. When we could no longer find each other in music, it was done."

"I initially laughed at Morrisseys sarcasm and was touched by his strong anti-macho texts. But after five years of references to Oscar Wilde and sixties films, I was slightly done with it. I myself read J.G. Ballard and William S. Burroughs. I loved dystopian literature. Morrissey was actually more romantic."

"Morrissey and I were different in almost anything. Always. OK, thanks to his lyrics to Meat Is Murder, I stopped eating meat, but otherwise I've never attached much value to his opinions. All I can say is that The Smiths stood up for the rightless and the oppressed, the marginalized ones in our society because of their sexual orientation, race or descent. That is what The Smiths stood for. And we called ourselves leftwing. Morrissey engaging himself with disseminators of hatred is horrible, but I have felt so far away from him for so long that I can't really worry about it. What he does, says or sings, doesn't interest me. And please note: even he can not rewrite our history. I do not recognize anything in him what we once stood for as a band. "
 
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g23

Always crashing in the same car
It's time for Marr to stick up for his old partner and say he is not a racist.
That would be a good headline.
Noel Gallagher has championed Moz in the past, he should have the guts to say it too.
They should stop thinking of their own careers and put an end to all this nonsense.
Maybe they didn't care for his mouthy heel turn, and they don't see themselves in his words anymore.
 

g23

Always crashing in the same car
I don't like Marr, I never have. He got what he needed from Morrissey and then when he became bored he played the victim of Morrissey's petulance. Marr's a fantasist. Jeez, I even remember him saying that Happy Hour was a direct rip-off of I Want The One I Can't Have, and that if he bumped into any of the Housemartins, he'd cause them serious harm. Andy made Marr. Marr played jangly guitar and hid his lack of songwriting ability behind effects pedals and overdubs. The way Andy's bass slinks into the intro to That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore, is sheer genius. And please don't mention that hair. How old is he? That hair alone shows his complete lack of self - awareness. I think Morrissey was cast aside like a worthless rag and has done well not to stick the knife into Johnny the way Johnny has made snide remarks in the past, about him. I'd like to see Morrissey vent his anger on Marr now, and crush him. Perhaps also stop playing Smiths songs. Time for Morrissey to be unequivocal and bear his teeth where Marr is concerned and make the divorce final. This would also help allay claims of him smearing the legacy. Perhaps Morrissey could be more vocal about Johnny's tepid 'career', post - Smiths, and have a bit of fun in challenging him to prove his worthiness as a 'guitar god'. Vent your anger on Marr, Morrissey, there's at least three great albums in that! Also, he could try to be a little more contrite with Andy and Mike, to alienate Marr even more and expose him as the spineless sneak he really is. For too long, he's been hiding behind Morrissey's social ineptitude to make himself look like the maligned arbitrator who did his best to keep everyone happy, but failed...pish.
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Bluebirds

Well-Known Member
Kick 'em when they fall down.....
 

Bluebirds

Well-Known Member
I had never thought Forgive Someone was about Johnny, but having just revisited the lyrics I can't help but wonder. Maybe it relates to their meeting a couple of years earlier? Having said that it's such a terrible song that I can't bring myself to ponder it too deeply :)

Oh, and completely agree about Johnny having earned the right to a five-year hangover.
I think it's about Johnny Marr. One of Morrissey's better later songs imo. Glad I can still listen to most of Mozzer's solo stuff without seeing swastikas, Tommy Robinson and Orangemen Marching bands.
 
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Anonymous

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I think it's about Johnny Marr. One of Morrissey's better later songs imo. Glad I can still listen to most of Mozzer's solo stuff without seeing swastikas, Tommy Robinson and Orangemen Marching bands.
You don't have his YouTube login then?
 
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Anonymous

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So funny that Joyce defended Morrissey in his last interview despite the famous issue, and Johnny tells what he tells. I mean I can understand that now his priority is to promote the record and Morrissey shadow can be a problem for him now that his image is in trouble, but still, those are sad words.
 

Amy

from the Ice Age to the dole age
I don't think "Forgive Someone" is about JM. If it's based on a real person at all, it would seem to be someone from M's school days.
The black peat of the hills
When I was still ill
See this mess and forgive someone

And then recall if you can
How all this even began
Forgive someone

To me, it's pretty strongly hinting towards the Smiths period, but I could be wrong. The line about peat hills reminded me of the section in Autobiography where he talks about going for a drive with Johnny to patch things up .. 'the serenity of our drive to Saddleworth Moor, where the coffin lid shifted and the old spark rose like a small miracle'. And the stuff about ''not betraying" someone calls to mind Speedway. 'In my own strange way....'
 
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Anonymous

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I never before heard him talk like this. I think this is very honest, and very true. (And it must be quiet painful to read, for his former companion.)
 
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Anonymous

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All of the same ignorant, whingy, hypocrital cunts on here who rail on a perceived dwindling of “freedom of speech” - in defence of the rubbish Morrissey spouts - are the first in line to shoot down Johnny Marr for directly answering the questions asked of him.

Bunch of fucking sad, spoon-fed, toddlers without a shred of basic fact, cognitive ability or integrity among them.
 

Mcgill

New Member
Doesn’t seem to ring true this, suspect it’s not the real deal. a lot more forthright then in past, unless he’s become so concerned the negative press around Moz will tarnish the Smiths legacy that he’s felt no choice but to speak out. Revisionist to say they weren’t close though, Johnny’s own autobiography contradicts that
 

Cornflakes

"A bit iffy" ★★☆☆☆ - AV Club
Hungover? People here said he got tired of The Smiths because he was in charge of everything.
In charge of everything and, by his own account, developing a drink problem. I don't actually think he is hungover in that interview (I mean, he might be for all I know, but it doesn't seem obvious), although it's worth noting that it coincides pretty exactly with Scott Piering being elbowed out, which may well explain Morrissey seeming pretty happy and Johnny less so.
 
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Anaesthesine

Angel of Distemper
To be fair, you'd be monumentally hungover, too, if you were stress-drinking because you were effectively managing your band due to your partner's inability to keep a manager for more than a couple months.
That's how I've always read the situation.

Patience of a saint.
 

Morrissey-so-old.com

If your reading this your an idiot.
Of course Moz cares. This is the whole point of their dynamic. Moz cares and Johnny doesn't.
Morrisset only cares about himself and how he can fill his wallet, Morrissey can give 2 shits about the Smiths, that’s why they tell journalist that interview him not to ask about the Smiths as if it never exsisted.
 
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vegan.cro spirit# 453

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Morrisset only cares about himself and how he can fill his wallet, Morrissey can give 2 shits about the Smiths, that’s why they tell journalist that interview him not to ask about the Smiths as if it never exsisted.
Who is "they"?
Ghosts?:crazy:
(actually Moz gets asked about the Smiths on just about every interview, but dont
tell the loon^^^ he may fly off his meds):straightface:
 

Morrissey-so-old.com

If your reading this your an idiot.
Who is "they"?
Ghosts?:crazy:
(actually Moz gets asked about the Smiths on just about every interview, but dont
tell the loon^^^ he may fly off his meds):straightface:
If it isn’t the little quire boy Vegan.Hoe, run into any good priests lately Vegan.Hoe? I’m sure many have baptized you with golden and silver showers, LoL. You are simply a child, with abandonment issues who craves my attention.
 
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firstodie

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In all honesty, I'd think twice about supporting Morrissey if he was new on the scene but that's not the case. He's an established artist who I've invested a lot of time in. Some people think they can tell you to forget 34 years of your life because they now find his views unsavoury. Ageism.
 
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Pablo Honey

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There is only one explanation for all of this. Marr has to promote his new record and no way in hell he wants to be associated with the controversial Morrissey. "Look at me! I am a leftie! I have nothing to do with the racist Morrissey. Buy my record. It's really good." He must have taken an advice from his label. "Hey Johnny, the sales figures are really not what we've imagined. Maybe if you make a statement how you disassociate yourself from Morrissey that could really bring the numbers up."
 

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