It is indeed Maajid Nawaz. He tried to initially portray the attack as a purely racist one. In all the reports he said he was standing on the street on his phone and then from nowhere a man punched him, called him a P*ki and walked away, when this was far from the truth.OK, well I have to remain consistent here and until we know for sure I'm uncomfortable saying that it was a Muslim gang. I actually assumed the news had broken that it was. As I say my primary interest is the double standards of how the media treat these things that made me curious to know if the info on said gang had been released.
Is the DJ you were referring to Maajid Nawaz? I'd be disappointed if it turned out it was him because I actually rate him quite highly and although politically disagree with him on a lot of stuff he is one of the voices on the Left I like to listen to when I come across interviews etc on YouTube. I follow him on twitter as well. Hope its not him.
Why put up a detailed post about David Copeland? Just because I find Pride tacky and commercial doesn't mean I want to nail bomb people. As for Muslims, there are many in this country who would say that all gays deserve to be nail bombed and would laugh and celebrate if it ever happened again.I'm not quite sure why you felt the need to attempt to turn these incidents into some kind of purile competition. Do you feel like you are winning?
I do not excuse any violence. I'm therefore unsure as to what you think your point is? I do and will continue to dispute the racism and homophobia you apply to your every utterance. You are irrational, angry and seemingly a little unhinged. The contents of your conspiratorial posts are, for the most part, hateful diatribes against groups of people you seem to think of as being inferior to the conventional white, straight westerner. Views shared by David Copeland. I draw the comparison for its accuracy. Hate breeds hate. You hate a lot, and with conviction.
I'm glad you made the post with the numbered points showing the progression of this multi-page thread which gave some more context I was lacking, along with the recap you've just provided.
I can first off unequivocally state I don't condone or endorse violence. And more specifically, I do not promote or condone targeted violence on LGBT people. This isn't some back-peddling speech; that's from the heart and my principles (which are largely center left-leaning lowercase-libertarian [as opposed to authoritarian]).
That being said i'm not without my bias or disenfranchisement of sociopolitical issues as they are reported in corporate media and held by a slight majority of western populations.
It's not your fault that I am definitely going to come across as right-wing, or at the very least, right-wing apologist (which I am in most ways). I'm a centrist after all. With a believe in the same free speech principles that at one time fostered more acceptance of diversity of opinion.
In the 90's and early 00's I was far more at odds with what I perceived to be religious right dominance and overbearing censorious activity. But for me, the script has flipped in terms of establishment and I view most media and international globalist corporations as the abusive power structure that oversteps, censors, and uses double-standards in their characterization of issues that affect us all, like violence.
So coming from that perspective, and being unclear as to the origination of the topic, I guess this came off as a whataboutism, as you say. Additionally, the Antifa beat up a gay comment was a flippant attempt at bringing it back to the topic of whites attacking gays.
Yes, I could have added that they attacked an asian as well, which I am equally displeased with. But that was less of a connecting thread. Did Antifa attack him because he is gay? Well they knew he was gay. They attacked him because of who he is, knowing what he is. Was it purely motivated by his orientation? I suppose not. But I think the topic of "gays being attacked" in the general context usually implies a right-wing element. I think it is fair to point out the instances (especially recent and egregious) where the left did not give a shit that they were brutally attacking a gay person. I believe that is a value-added context or footnote.
Hope this makes more sense. I know this is a Morrissey site, of whom I am a passionate fan. I've lurked here since 2000. Joined and commented a bit 5 years ago. It's always been toxic here with the Morrissey hate. But it has become more political as his views are less aligned with current fashion and I got tired of being in a hug box with the comment threads of my other places so I figured I'd join the fray and have a bit of banter. Sometimes I attempt to be funny but it can become sardonic and flippant as well.
Just because I find Pride tacky and commercial
Thanks to my biggest fan for constantly putting up extensive quotes of mine (of which I unashamedly stand by). I'm not sure how much these compilations are appreciated by other site users, but they do tickle me every time I see them, and I appreciate your time and effort..... and the prize for loudest dog whistle this evening goes to .... Reelfountain.
"Every Londoner knows" Reelfountain has canvassed every single person in London to ascertain their view on this topic. She manged to do this single-handedly in less than 4 hours. She's a faster worker and no mistake.
"Just like every shooting and stabbing is always one ethnicity". You'll notice the complete lack of factual evidence provided to support this alt-right daydream.
"If this really was a homophobic attack". Here Reelfountain plumbs more lows; suggesting that the two women who were phsyically assaulted have lied about the violence they experienced and the reason for that violence. This mirrors Reelfountain's recent claim that the 2 boys abused by Jack Renshaw either did not exist or were lying. It seems she'll do just about anything to protect her alt-right, convicted paedophile.
"it has 'muslim ignorance' written all over it." ... or more accurately, Reelfountain's ignorance. Reelfountain's recent homophobic comments include (but are not limited to):
"the fact they're getting the kids in on it (Pride) now is like something from Gary Glitter's handbook"
"What a shower of creeps. .... the paedo element is getting more pronounced each year."
"These people don't go away. They will get in there surreptitiously wherever they can and they've obviously infiltrated the Pride movement. You watch. The schools will be officially celebrating Pride each year soon."
"Gays used to enjoy the shadows - now it's all so extroverted and crudely in your face."
"Everybody knows why - because whenever police employ this method it always turns out to be for the same reason. Community cohesion." Everybody? Crikey. Now everyone in the world knows why. I didn't so I can't be one of the people that lives in the world, can I? (cue: cheap, unfunny gag). Again, there is no factual evidence to support Reelfountain's wild assertions just Reelfountain's conspiratorial alt-right worldview.
This is just another alt-right rant from an unloveable, unlikeable, hateful, racist, paedophile apologist and homophobe.
Thanks to my biggest fan for constantly putting up extensive quotes of mine (of which I unashamedly stand by). I'm not sure how much these compilations are appreciated by other site users, but they do tickle me every time I see them, and I appreciate your time and effort.
I will further elaborate on one of the quotes: "If this really was a homophobic attack" which concerns the attack on the two women on the London bus that gained worldwide press coverage and was propagandized to the full. I am absolutely right to question if this indeed was a homophobic attack. Nobody knows any of the details for certain. We have only heard one side of the story, haven't seen the CCTV footage, and heard nothing at all from witnesses.
Sometimes people twist things for their own agenda. When it comes to court we'll hear more. but as all but one is under 18 we will never hear names or see photos of the majority so one can only presume their ethnicity (which I have as it makes logical sense).
Unfortunately people get into drunken rows with strangers all the time and end up assaulted. But how do we know if one of the women didn't throw insults first? How do we know one of the women didn't strike first? Perhaps the women might have even started the row. It happened in the early hours of the morning when people were on their way home from clubs and perhaps the woman had consumed a lot of drink. We just know at this point.
What we do know from patterns and likelihood is that a gang on a bus in inner London has a 99.9% of being an ethnic gang containing at least some Muslims. And Muslims are more likely to throw anti-semitic, sexist or homophobic insults around at Westerners as these views form a strong part of Islamic culture.
Thanks to my biggest fan for constantly putting up extensive quotes of mine (of which I unashamedly stand by). I'm not sure how much these compilations are appreciated by other site users, but they do tickle me every time I see them, and I appreciate your time and effort.
I will further elaborate on one of the quotes: "If this really was a homophobic attack" which concerns the attack on the two women on the London bus that gained worldwide press coverage and was propagandized to the full. I am absolutely right to question if this indeed was a homophobic attack. Nobody knows any of the details for certain. We have only heard one side of the story, haven't seen the CCTV footage, and heard nothing at all from witnesses.
Sometimes people twist things for their own agenda. When it comes to court we'll hear more. but as all but one is under 18 we will never hear names or see photos of the majority so one can only presume their ethnicity (which I have as it makes logical sense).
Unfortunately people get into drunken rows with strangers all the time and end up assaulted. But how do we know if one of the women didn't throw insults first? How do we know one of the women didn't strike first? Perhaps the women might have even started the row. It happened in the early hours of the morning when people were on their way home from clubs and perhaps the woman had consumed a lot of drink. We just know at this point.
What we do know from patterns and likelihood is that a gang on a bus in inner London has a 99.9% of being an ethnic gang containing at least some Muslims. And Muslims are more likely to throw anti-semitic, sexist or homophobic insults around at Westerners as these views form a strong part of Islamic culture.
Thanks to my biggest fan for constantly putting up extensive quotes of mine (of which I unashamedly stand by). I'm not sure how much these compilations are appreciated by other site users, but they do tickle me every time I see them, and I appreciate your time and effort.
I will further elaborate on one of the quotes: "If this really was a homophobic attack" which concerns the attack on the two women on the London bus that gained worldwide press coverage and was propagandized to the full. I am absolutely right to question if this indeed was a homophobic attack. Nobody knows any of the details for certain. We have only heard one side of the story, haven't seen the CCTV footage, and heard nothing at all from witnesses.
Sometimes people twist things for their own agenda. When it comes to court we'll hear more. but as all but one is under 18 we will never hear names or see photos of the majority so one can only presume their ethnicity (which I have as it makes logical sense).
Unfortunately people get into drunken rows with strangers all the time and end up assaulted. But how do we know if one of the women didn't throw insults first? How do we know one of the women didn't strike first? Perhaps the women might have even started the row. It happened in the early hours of the morning when people were on their way home from clubs and perhaps the woman had consumed a lot of drink. We just know at this point.
What we do know from patterns and likelihood is that a gang on a bus in inner London has a 99.9% of being an ethnic gang containing at least some Muslims. And Muslims are more likely to throw anti-semitic, sexist or homophobic insults around at Westerners as these views form a strong part of Islamic culture.
Thanks to my biggest fan for constantly putting up extensive quotes of mine (of which I unashamedly stand by). I'm not sure how much these compilations are appreciated by other site users, but they do tickle me every time I see them, and I appreciate your time and effort.
I will further elaborate on one of the quotes: "If this really was a homophobic attack" which concerns the attack on the two women on the London bus that gained worldwide press coverage and was propagandized to the full. I am absolutely right to question if this indeed was a homophobic attack. Nobody knows any of the details for certain. We have only heard one side of the story, haven't seen the CCTV footage, and heard nothing at all from witnesses.
Sometimes people twist things for their own agenda. When it comes to court we'll hear more. but as all but one is under 18 we will never hear names or see photos of the majority so one can only presume their ethnicity (which I have as it makes logical sense).
Unfortunately people get into drunken rows with strangers all the time and end up assaulted. But how do we know if one of the women didn't throw insults first? How do we know one of the women didn't strike first? Perhaps the women might have even started the row. It happened in the early hours of the morning when people were on their way home from clubs and perhaps the woman had consumed a lot of drink. We just know at this point.
What we do know from patterns and likelihood is that a gang on a bus in inner London has a 99.9% of being an ethnic gang containing at least some Muslims. And Muslims are more likely to throw anti-semitic, sexist or homophobic insults around at Westerners as these views form a strong part of Islamic culture.
Thanks to my biggest fan for constantly putting up extensive quotes of mine (of which I unashamedly stand by). I'm not sure how much these compilations are appreciated by other site users, but they do tickle me every time I see them, and I appreciate your time and effort.
I will further elaborate on one of the quotes: "If this really was a homophobic attack" which concerns the attack on the two women on the London bus that gained worldwide press coverage and was propagandized to the full. I am absolutely right to question if this indeed was a homophobic attack. Nobody knows any of the details for certain. We have only heard one side of the story, haven't seen the CCTV footage, and heard nothing at all from witnesses.
Sometimes people twist things for their own agenda. When it comes to court we'll hear more. but as all but one is under 18 we will never hear names or see photos of the majority so one can only presume their ethnicity (which I have as it makes logical sense).
Unfortunately people get into drunken rows with strangers all the time and end up assaulted. But how do we know if one of the women didn't throw insults first? How do we know one of the women didn't strike first? Perhaps the women might have even started the row. It happened in the early hours of the morning when people were on their way home from clubs and perhaps the woman had consumed a lot of drink. We just know at this point.
What we do know from patterns and likelihood is that a gang on a bus in inner London has a 99.9% of being an ethnic gang containing at least some Muslims. And Muslims are more likely to throw anti-semitic, sexist or homophobic insults around at Westerners as these views form a strong part of Islamic culture.
only denies his own attraction to dudes
you cant snoggle with DUDES FOR 45 LONG MINUTES and
then deny you are gay and attracted to dudes.
not a couple of smooches, no.....45 minutes worth
Why use my own words to respond when I can use some of yours ....
"The fact they're getting the kids in on it (Pride) now is like something from Gary Glitter's handbook"
"What a shower of creeps. .... the paedo element is getting more pronounced each year."
"These people don't go away. They will get in there surreptitiously wherever they can and they've obviously infiltrated the Pride movement.
"You watch. The schools will be officially celebrating Pride each year soon."
"Gays used to enjoy the shadows - now it's all so extroverted and crudely in your face."
"Now take the incident with lesbians on the bus. Maybe they heard the gang say a few things they didn't like and stated [sic] the row themselves."
"If this really was a homophobic attack"
"It has 'muslim ignorance' written all over it."
Moz played Johnny's skinflute.
The vast majority of attacks on innocent people on the street are not 'homophobic' attacks - they are just attacks - the vast majority of which would never make headlines anywhere, let alone across the world (like the one above).
Identity politics is divisive and toxic.
It is indeed Maajid Nawaz. He tried to initially portray the attack as a purely racist one. In all the reports he said he was standing on the street on his phone and then from nowhere a man punched him, called him a P*ki and walked away, when this was far from the truth.
I knew there was more to the story as I don't trust this man. There's something a little over-zealous about him. Don't forget, he is a former Islamic terrorist (arrested in Egypt in 2001 and jailed for five years there for terrorism) and could have accepted a 'freedom' deal from a British intelligence agency to avoid more time in prison (they could have had more on him that would put him away for a long time).
Åsa Linderborg who got sacked yesterday hated identity politics and that probably is the reason why she lost the job she had. But she will be better off as an author and that will help her make more money as her next book will most likely be turned into a film or tv series.The vast majority of attacks on innocent people on the street are not 'homophobic' attacks - they are just attacks - the vast majority of which would never make headlines anywhere, let alone across the world (like the one above).
Identity politics is divisive and toxic.
Moz played Johnny's skinflute.