James Maker Statement: Is Morrissey a racist?


Statement:

Is Morrissey a racist?

The answer is an emphatic 'no'. In the forty years that I have known Morrissey, I have never once heard a racist epithet pass his lips. The terms 'racist', 'fascist', and 'Islamophobe' are so freely used nowadays against those whose opinions and worldview differs from our own, that they have lost their power and meaning.
Also, there is a worrying trend on the Left that, ironically, echoes fascism in its intolerance of reasoned debate. One is not only 'wrong' in expressing a different opinion, but one is also now 'evil'. I believe that calling Morrissey a racist is unjustifiable and wrong.
However, if you want to run out of the house wearing a garment ill-suited to the elements in order to throw Viva Hate into the Manchester Ship Canal, then that is, of course, your right.

In supporting Brexit, this does not make Morrissey an immigrant-hating 'Little Englander' who lives only to reverse the metric system and bring back steam trains. The truth is, there are myriad reasons why people voted to leave the EU. One of them is a mistrust of Brussels technocracy where unelected representatives make decisions that are arguably a matter for sovereignty.
Patriotism and Nationalism are very distinct: the former is characterised by an affection for one's country; the second is a more extreme and unforgiving form of allegiance to one's homeland. Morrissey might be guilty of patriotism, but not of nationalism.

Opposing Sharia Law in the UK, or FGM, or institutionalised misogyny—which is (trigger warning) widespread in the developing world—is an appropriate Western response borne of democracy and the development of civil liberties. It is neither racist nor Islamophobic.
After all, if I were to move to the United Arab Emirates in search of a better life, I wouldn't reasonably expect to be able to build a hot dog stand empire, serving pork products whilst dressed in a gender-neutral miniskirt.

To oppose halal slaughter is to oppose slaughter with additional cruelty. The zakat tax payable for Halal certification is used by Islamic organisations to fund mosques and religious schools. Such is the many-tentacled nature of zakat, it is difficult to determine whether it is also being used to crowdfund Islamist extremism. There is a growing concern in some quarters that it might be.

Hitler was indeed 'Left-wing' in the sense of incorporating the word 'socialist' into the party's name to cynically draw voters away from communism and towards populist nationalism dressed as socialism. Hence, 'Hitler was Left-wing.' Morrissey was not suggesting that Hitler and Yvette Cooper (for example) share the same political ideals. The fact is, Left-wing totalitarianism looks little different to Right-wing authoritarianism — if you're being oppressed, it's the same experience.

Again, is Morrissey a racist?
My answer is an emphatic 'no'.

James Maker.
26.04.18

Regards,
FWD.
 
The issue isn’t whether Morrissey is racist. It’s that he has aligned himself to, and is endorsing a far right racist political party. I think he is extremely foolish, not racist. Had I not known so much about him then I might have considered him to be racist, and that would have been his fault.

The Hitler was left wing is infantile bollocks. Hitler named his party National Socialists, and held a big May Day event where he invited all the German trade unions to join him. It was a ploy to get them to identify themselves. They were round up and we know what he did with those he considered to be “undesirables”.

Morrissey has f***ed up. I’m a fan from way back, and have knocked up nearly treble digit gigs of his along the way. I also know my politics, and cannot reconcile attending any more gigs unless he does something very dramatic to put this right. I know enough to realise that this will never happen.

For Britain are a bunch of racist, violent thugs. Go on the Hope Not Hate website and check out the “carefully vetted” council election candidates. You will notice that they have a tiny number of candidates. Minuscule. Morrissey has blighted his reputation to ask people to back a party that practically all of us have no option to even vote for. What a foolish, silly man he is.
 
I’m no sorry, I am very familiar with HNH and they do a lot of grass roots stuff with communities and your description is ridiculous and holds no water. I would expect nothing less coming from you though.
The HNH link above that I looked at was a childish pile of bullshit that seemed written by a 12 year old. Does that hold water?
 
I have some sympathy with the notion that the hardline far-left and the hardline far-right are essentially different flavours of the same shit. Both sides are utterly intolerant of anyone who doesn't conform to their politics. Islamic immigration and influence on Western culture isn't a blanket evil - but neither is it a wholly positive joyous event that is beyond any criticism. As with most things in life, the issue is nuanced - there are positive aspects, and there are negative aspects - but for the far-left, any criticism seems to immediately have them screaming 'Nazi!' and 'racist!' at you. Both sides are utterly ridiculous in my opinion.
 
The HNH link above that I looked at was a childish pile of bullshit that seemed written by a 12 year old. Does that hold water?

I don’t give a shit about your opinion on the quality of the writing; I didn’t say that the author was going to be up for the Man Booker Prize. I am referring mainly to the content. Are you saying that you disagree with what is written about these particular members of For Britain?
 
Did I hit a nerve? Obnoxious plank. Most of Maker's rant about "England is Mine" was about himself, not Morrissey!

I think you are a bit dumb. I think to call someone a "no mark" when you have done nothing yourself is a funny as hell. You have been on here for years, I remember you used to talk shit about KY , then decided you liked her.I would consider KY more a no mark than James.
James has done ok, hes not fame obsessed and he seems intelligent . You mate KY is completely fame obsessed and has got nowhere beyond doing whatever gigs Tony books, claims to have written songs Tony has written.
As for the Moz biopic that was put out because Moz asked him to. I'm sorry you can't work it out yourself.
I think Smiths Moz was created around the idea of James. He has been quite important in the story.


I liked what Peppermint said about the post, it was very insightful .
 
I have some sympathy with the notion that the hardline far-left and the hardline far-right are essentially different flavours of the same shit. Both sides are utterly intolerant of anyone who doesn't conform to their politics. Islamic immigration and influence on Western culture isn't a blanket evil - but neither is it a wholly positive joyous event that is beyond any criticism. As with most things in life, the issue is nuanced - there are positive aspects, and there are negative aspects - but for the far-left, any criticism seems to immediately have them screaming 'Nazi!' and 'racist!' at you. Both sides are utterly ridiculous in my opinion.

Perfectly summed up.
 
What crap being spewed about Hope Not Hate. I’ve affiliated to them for years. I am left wing and work in a left wing political job. I know what left wing is, I live it. When I hook up with HNH they’re more about community and cohesion. They target political groups in their work, but they are not political themselves. They are ideological. They will work with and lobby parties from both sides of the spectrum.
 
Hands up who on here gets called racist?

It never happens to me personally.

I reckon if getting called a racist happens a lot to you you should probably try to stop being such a c***.
me,when I play call of duty,because my username is vivamozz,people who are absolutely thick call me every name under the sun because they think mozz is an indian name,i just laugh at them when I tell them I'm white and Scottish.
 
I see 'Hope Not Hate' haven't had a go at our Moz in their article on the For Britain Movement...but then again HNH have had their own members recently embroiled in 'racism' investigations themselves. 'Throwing stones in glass houses'?

https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2018/04/19/acting-antisemitism-wherever-find/

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/p...itism-claims-his-words-were-twisted-1-8440992

https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2018/04/03/antisemitism-labour-party-go/

https://www.independent.co.uk/stude...d-by-nus-for-being-islamophobic-a6881831.html
 
Great statement, and echoing Mozzer’s own statement. Racism and fascism have no place in this world, or the next.
The heart feels free.
 
Beat me once more, you literally are on fire aha.

Unless you’re on the Internet 25 hours idea, refreshing “Morrissey” and searching every person associated with him, you ain’t beating FWD bro. Not in a million years.
 
Presumably all Morrissey's Muslim friends who would do anything for him have just been really busy recently.
 
I think you are a bit dumb. I think to call someone a "no mark" when you have done nothing yourself is a funny as hell. You have been on here for years, I remember you used to talk shit about KY , then decided you liked her.I would consider KY more a no mark than James.
James has done ok, hes not fame obsessed and he seems intelligent . You mate KY is completely fame obsessed and has got nowhere beyond doing whatever gigs Tony books, claims to have written songs Tony has written.
As for the Moz biopic that was put out because Moz asked him to. I'm sorry you can't work it out yourself.
I think Smiths Moz was created around the idea of James. He has been quite important in the story.

I liked what Peppermint said about the post, it was very insightful .

I am wondering who you are - I get the feeling you are one of old 'usual suspects' but can't place it. You're very defensive of Mr. Maker.

I can't really remember 'talking shit' about Kristeen Young, though I did think her music was unbearably awful back then and that she was riding on the tails of others, so it's very feasible. I remember laughing at the video for "Fantastic Failure"....I don't think I ever liked her (or disliked her) to any great degree though; I'm sure I would remember more clearly if I did. She wasn't ever someone I rabidly liked, I wonder if you are confusing me with someone else.
 
Hands up who on here gets called racist?

It never happens to me personally.

I reckon if getting called a racist happens a lot to you you should probably try to stop being such a c***.

You never will be called racist or anything because nobody cares what you think. Morrissey is an influencer since the eighties, that's why when he speaks his mind without fear of threats or media bullying some people try to destroy his credibility with lies and insults, just like Nazi propagandists used to do with their enemies.
 
What crap being spewed about Hope Not Hate. I’ve affiliated to them for years. I am left wing and work in a left wing political job. I know what left wing is, I live it. When I hook up with HNH they’re more about community and cohesion. They target political groups in their work, but they are not political themselves. They are ideological. They will work with and lobby parties from both sides of the spectrum.

Hope Not Hate is run by a communist who consorted with convicted terrorists, so yes, I suppose ideological is a fair description.
 
This is how the press works:

They make up a story about subject A.
They print/publish article about subject A.
People read the article about subject A.
Some believe what they've read.

How the f*** do you fight that? You can have your own site and make statements there. Most won't read them and those that do will still believe what the press said about you. As you very well know skinnybob.

Friends will defend subject A but not even that is enough for some...

"A lie told once remains a lie but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth" (Joseph Goebbels)

Old tactics. Nothing new under the sun.
 
Hope Not Hate is run by a communist who consorted with convicted terrorists, so yes, I suppose ideological is a fair description.

Their screenshots are undoubtedly real, though.

PS I'm not an expert on this, but you might be thinking of Searchlight.
 
Hope Not Hate is run by a communist who consorted with convicted terrorists, so yes, I suppose ideological is a fair description.

You mean an ex British soldier? Some believe he may have been in intelligence, but that’s inside gossip and not verified.

Your information is a bit off I think.
 
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