It’s not about politics

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  1. Derek17

    Derek17 Well-Known Member

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    It's happening.
    It has nothing to do with me.
    I just want people to have a heads-up.
     
  2. Truth

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    the TRUTH, I'm guessing...
    If you want the dirt on Hollywood this is a good place to find out who runs the pedophile rings and who has people murdered. Sometimes it's the same people.
    And if you're not already posting there you should check out /r/conspiracy
     
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  3. Derek17

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    I'm still trying to figure out what Obama meant in his verified emails from Wikileaks when he ordered $60,000 in hot dogs from Chicago to the White House at 1am one night even though outside food is not allowed in the White House. "Hot dog" is code for "boy" in pedophile speak, according to the"conspiracy theorists." I'm sure there must be some reasonable explanation.
     
  4. Truth

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    I actually looked this up back when I used to visit /r/conspiracy and saw complete morons posting this exact same thing.
    I'm going to make this so simple that even you can understand it, point by point.

    1. Correct. No outside food is allowed in the White House.
    2. There was no order for $60,000 worth of hot dogs.
    3. There was a Chicago style hot dog party for which $60,000 was budgeted.
    4. The budget included the food which was purchased by White House staff.
    5. The budget also included two chefs from Chicago and the expenses to fly them to the White House
    to teach the White House staff how to make "Chicago style" hot dogs.

    This is a matter of public record.

    President Obama may be from Chicago, but he still needs some help when it comes to cooking up Chicago-style hot dogs.

    The White House was preparing for its annual congressional picnic for last Tuesday and they wanted Chicago-style hots on the menu. Only catch, the staff didn't know how to make them, reports Lynn Sweet at the Sun-Times.

    So the White House staff got in touch with Byron's Hot Dogs owner Mike Payneand flew him to the White House to assist the kitchen staff in preparing hot dogs for Tuesday’s annual congressional picnic.

    “Everybody there was really, really nice,” Payne told the Chicago Sun-Times, “like they were treating us like a guest.”

    Made in Chicago

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    Payne got the job based on Sen. Dick Durbin’s recommendation and sent a grocery list with all the traditional fixings to White House chief chef Cristeta Comerfeld, who did her best to find everything needed for a Chicago dog.

    The theme of the picnic was “Taste of the States,” with each dish featuring food from a region of the United States. The Vienna hot dogs represented the Midwest.

    They must have been a hit, as the Obama’s themselves put in a Presidential “to-go” order for four hot dogs.



    Now, if you find it easier to believe
    1 that "hot dog" is some pedophile code for "boy" and
    2 that Obama uses this code
    3 in an email that his staff can read and
    4 that this is more likely and more logical than a real event that actually occurred and was documented

    then you really do belong at /r/conspiracy because it's full of people that also believe this nonsense.

    You're here telling people to THINK but then you're re-posting the same tired nonsense that the whole alt-right slack jawed army is posting. And when you argue with these people, like you they start talking about Hillary and CNN and the MSM and they might even try to argue the point. They're never very good at it, though and when they finally have every one of their arguments destroyed they disappear and another one pops up saying the exact same thing.
    How the fuck do you know that "hot dog" is pedophile code anyway? Prove it. Show one instance of some pedo gang being arrested where evidence showed this was a code. Same thing with the triangles that are supposed to be some kind of code. It's all bullshit for morons who can't be bothered to read about the real problems, like Obama signing the NDAA and taking away basic liberties of all US citizens, because that actually requires some reading and thought. It's much simpler to just say "Well gol-olly, you mean pizza is a secret code! Tell me more!!!"
    I listened to that shit when it first came out and every bit of "evidence" put forth dissolves as soon as you look at it. "But there's so much of it!" Sure, but it's all bullshit that a bunch of morons repeat to each other, people that write like they failed sixth grade, but they want to feel smart so they sit around and figure out secret codes used by the President. Really? You're that dumb? You think that the President of the United States uses codes that can be figured out by a bunch of toothless hicks with Confederate flags decorating their pickups? (see below if you have missed this wonderful bit of contemporary Americana)*
    It's dumb motherfuckers who have been told their whole lives they were dumb and they want to be smart so they find a community of other dropouts and tell each other how smart they are.
    Sure, dude. You're smarter than Obama. You have his whole pedophile code figured out! hahahahaha


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  5. Don't @ me

    Don't @ me Guest

    I was with you for 95% of your post until you got into the class based hatred and mockery towards the end, and for that you can fuck off, you sad little man.
     
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  6. Truth

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    It has nothing to do with class. It's intelligence. These are people that have Internet access and they're using it to repeat nonsense. They're not trying to learn anything. I have been a literacy volunteer and I try not to be disrespectful to people whose life circumstances may have made learning difficult for whatever reason. But if you're online and have any curiosity and intelligence you have no excuse for not educating yourself.
    You're right that maybe what I'm writing would be less offensive if I was kinder to these idiots that are spreading hate and lies but I don't feel bad about venting when Derek is posting the same old shit like it's really new information and pretending that he is "THINKING."
    I think mockery is a useful tool when dealing with people that want to impress you with what they believe you will perceive as intelligence.
     
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  7. Derek17

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    What does "the pasta John [Podesta] gave us for Christmas" mean, and how can one enjoy said pasta in March? Would it still be edible? I'm confused.

    You seem awfully defensive for someone who is so sure of the veracity of the official story. You can't explain away the thousands of coincidences that appear in the Wikileaks emails. What is the mathematical probability that a bunch of middle-aged adults would just be talking about pizza, pasta, hot dogs, sauce, and such things endlessly?

    Who is Marina Abramovic?

    Why do you defend child abuse and child sex-trafficking?

    Allison Mack was arrested for sex trafficking. We are talking about child sex cults here.

    However, someone who is either as stupid or as depraved as you tries to use ridiculous, tired insults instead.

    Here's some Podesta art you might like. Enjoy!
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  8. Derek17

    Derek17 Well-Known Member

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    You are vile. I truly wonder about your motives.
     
  9. Truth

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    I don't wonder about your motives. You asked what an item in an email meant and I explained it. You then went on to post the same old "whataboutisms" that I've seen a million times and none of which prove "HILLARY RUNS KIDDIE SEX RING!!!!!"

    So I don't wonder about your motives at all.
     
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  10. Derek17

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    I'll say it again: you are vile.
     
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  11. Truth

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    Yes, of course you will say it again. You asked a question and I answered it in a way that doesn't fit your agenda so now it's about me as a person and not about "THINKING" because it never was about thinking.

    The other guy gave me a 95% after taking away points for being a big meanie, and I can live with that.
    But I can only give you a 50% because you're copying other people's work.
    Also, you abandoned your original project about Obama's hot dogs and started posting about John Podesta's art collection.
    If you want to sell the idea that "John Podesta has strange taste in art and I don't like it" these images would make sense. I think most people would feel uncomfortable looking at a collection of this work. But these pictures, which are disturbing, are protected free speech and don't appear to be either pornographic or erotic. I think that sometimes art is intended to be disturbing to the viewer? And sometimes it's not even about the viewer. Ultimately the only responsibility the artist has is to themselves.

    I think that when you're considering conspiracy theories a good method is to try to divide yourself into two different people. The first has an open mind and will consider anything no matter how far out it might seem. We can think of this aspect of ourselves as "the believer." The believer will listen to any theory. They won't reject something just because it seems far-fetched. That's why I looked at those emails when #pizzagate was "a thing."
    But then you have to have a second persona where you are skeptical and test the "evidence" once you've collected it. I know about the "hot dog" thing because I was linked to a video that supposedly proves pizzagate is real and the first thing they say is what you wrote above... "$65,000 for hotdogs, no outside food allowed" etc. SO I GOOGLED and found the hot dog party in four minutes.
    This is something that people have been talking about for months and that you're still trying to talk about, and it's easy to find out what the email meant with very minimal effort.

    I don't use drugs anymore but eighteen years ago I was briefly an addict and I noticed how my thinking was different when I was on drugs. I could build really elaborate conclusions based on the most seemingly unrelated facts. The drug gave me some kind of access to an ability to make these creative connections and also rewarded me by making me think I was intelligent, even smarter than other people, for having figured these things out.
    Now, I'm not saying that the people that push this "hot dog" nonsense are on drugs, but I am saying that the thought process and the reward they get are very similar. When you really want something to be true, when you're invested in it, and when "proving" it makes you feel better about yourself, you're the furthest thing from an objective observer.
    You're the last one to claim that you're teaching people to think.
     
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  12. Anonymous

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    REMOVE THIS POST. CHILD PORN IS NOT COOL
    THE MODERATORS NEED TO DO THEIR JOB AND REMOVE THIS GARBAGE.
     
  13. Truth

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    People mark "troll" but have nothing to say in response.
    It just shows (again) who the trolls are.
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  14. Derek17

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    You're presenting me with a mainstream narrative that is contrived to cover up the pedophilia and child sex-trafficking that ARE occurring.

    I used another example to demonstrate the unlikelihood of so many coincidences. We could talk all day about the different examples. The mathematical probability of this all having an innocent explanation based on all of the coincidences is very miniscule.

    So who's the crazy one? The one who is doing the math and siding with the most probable scenario based on the evidence, or the one who is in denial and desperate to deflect from and defend pedophilia, child sex-trafficking, and other disturbing stuff that has been documented?

    The Podestas are intimately connected to the Clintons and the Obamas. Do the math. Make the other connections.

    This isn't about innocent art. Marina Abramovic does not make innocent art. These people are Satanists. Spirit cooking and pedophile art are VERIFIED with these freaks. Do the math and wake up.
     
  15. Derek17

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    It's OK for the Podestas though, apparently. Nothing weird to see here, folks; just some normal art!
     
  16. Truth

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    You asked me about one thing that you "still don't understand" and I explained it so you threw fifteen more things out there and now I'm supposed to follow you around with a bucket cleaning up your diarrhea.
    No.
    You have not addressed the answer I gave you and you will continue to ask this question other places because it's part of an agenda you're promoting.
    I would have more respect for you if you just said whatever you actually believe no matter how "vile" it might be instead of pretending that you want to "THINK."
    Tempting as it is to address all of the other things you're trying to throw into the conversation, like a smoke bomb, so that you can confuse the issue and keep on pretending that "it's not about politics," I'm not going to do that.
    You had your chance to convince everyone and every single thing you're saying has no more substance than this nonsense about hot dogs.
    I got tired of this a long time ago and only answered because I have already THOUGHT about it.
    It's really important to you to portray me as if I get my opinions from some identifiable place like CNN, but what would it matter if that was even true?

    "A person that knows other people is a collector of art that I find disturbing," is what you're really saying. I "did the math" and concluded that you're copy/pasting a bunch of rehashed nonsense.

    Let's look for the evidence of a crime.
    John Podesta collects strange art.(not a crime)
    John Podesta worked with Hillary and Obama. (not a crime)
    Obama had a Chicago style hot dog food event at the White House. (not a crime)
    Marina Abramovic has art events that you don't like or understand. (not a crime)
    What else you got?
    See, I don't have to explain it in a way that it makes sense to you. Thank God for that. Or Satan. Whichever.
    I don't have to explain it at all.
    You're making the "DO THE MATH" foaming at the mouth charges about some updated Satanic Panic. I'm waiting for you to post a Geraldo Rivera video.
    But you have nothing. It all evaporates as soon as you look at it. And then you have to quickly look at the next thing which evaporates, and so on.
    So when I do the math zero plus zero equals zero.
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  17. Derek17

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    It's plain to see for everyone that you are desperate. We can only speculate as to why.

    I have only presented a few examples of a very large body of troubling evidence. People can make of it what they will, and in the future as more proofs come to light, the evidence will only become more relevant.

    Q has everything. If a damning video of Hillary Rodham Clinton comes out in the near future, showing something particularly shocking, don't be surprised.

    Be assured that this is a fight between good and evil. It's not about politics.

    The Great Awakening is happening.
     
  18. Truth

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    Let's back up.
    You asked for an explanation while making a spurious claim about "hot dogs."
    You claimed that this was evidence that Obama is a pedophile.
    I provided an explanation.
    You ignored that but now you want to hint that, because I provided the explanation for the thing that you "still don't understand" I must also be under suspicion.

    Are you going to make personal attacks on everyone who questions your mountains of evidence?
    And I'm the one that is supposedly desperate?

    Good luck but I don't think you're very good at selling this. If this is the battle of good and evil, and if you're an example of someone that is "awake" good luck.
     
  19. Derek17

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    Let me quote you so that we can put your whinging about "personal attacks" in perspective. You said: "it's all bullshit that a bunch of morons repeat to each other, people that write like they failed sixth grade, but they want to feel smart so they sit around and figure out secret codes used by the President. Really? You're that dumb? You think that the President of the United States uses codes that can be figured out by a bunch of toothless hicks with Confederate flags decorating their pickups? ... It's dumb motherfuckers who have been told their whole lives they were dumb and they want to be smart so they find a community of other dropouts and tell each other how smart they are. Sure, dude. You're smarter than Obama. You have his whole pedophile code figured out! hahahahaha."

    In light of this quote, your whinging seems totally reasonable. What a prize you are!

    I'm not selling anything. I'm only discussing evidence. Similarly, I'm not making any definitive claims. I am claiming that there is evidence, yes, but you seem to be caught up in the idea that the evidence is irrelevant and should be suppressed unless it is possible to prove that Obama and others are one-hundred percent certainly Satanist pedophiles. For me, it appears PROBABLE, based on the evidence, that Obama and his friends are Satanist pedophiles. I make no assertions; I only suggest that people THINK for themselves, question everything, consider the motives of the media industrial complex as far as opposing the evidence, and decide for themselves what the evidence suggests based on a balance of probabilities.

    This is a public forum, not a court of law or a military tribunal. The evidence will be properly scrutinized in such venues in due course. However, the evidence makes it clear that if Obama and his friends are not Satanist pedophiles, they are certainly, at the very least, very strange and engage in bizarre and as of yet unexplained practices.

    Of course, all of this is aside from the more tame corruption, if we can call it that, that these people are engaged in and which is also well-documented. Think FISA warrants. Think dealings with Russia. Obama and his people are in very deep, and all they seem to have, like you, is projection, false narratives, and lies.

    If you're tired of pizza and hot dogs, what about Obama's connections to Allison Mack? Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey, close fiends of the Clintons, were only the tip of the iceberg. How long can you go on denying and projecting before the evidence becomes insurmountable? We shall see. This is what is happening now. They are in too deep, and the house of cards is falling down as we speak.

    ¡Basta!

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  20. bhops

    bhops Last of the famous international screw ups.

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    I am personally sitting on the fence with Qanon. Firstly if you look at the sheer viewing numbers of Q posts and the fact that articles about it are now appearing in the MSM it is definitely a growing phenomenon. Even if Q is real or not they have a way for putting things and making you think outside the box in regards to the MSM, politics and the collusion between the two. Certainly Q has made some bold calls/predictions that have come true, most notably some weeks ago predicting that the North Korean situation had pretty much already been negotiated and that peace would break out there soon. So far so good on that front. Q also intimated that someone very high in American intelligence had already met with Kim and then it comes out last week that Pompeo has already had meetings there. These are incredibly precise things to simply 'guess' so you'd have to feel that whoever Q is they are high up in the intel world.

    I suggest we will have a definitive answer as to Q's validity when Mueller's 'investigation' comes to an end. Q posts last week pretty much spelt out that Mueller is actually working for Trump and this investigation will exonerate him and flip the focus over to Hillary and the dirty Dems. Another bold call, which if it bears fruit will pretty much prove Q as the real deal. Should Q get that wrong it's probably fair to say it's a fake. I'm reserving judgement on Q until I see that report, it will be very.....................telling.
     
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