Is This Website Why Morrissey Is Without A Record Deal?

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Bad songs are the reason he has no record deal...and he has no one to blame but Boz Boorer, Jesse Tobias, and himself for that.
 

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Rowntree

New Member
Bad songs are the reason he has no record deal...and he has no one to blame but Boz Boorer, Jesse Tobias, and himself for that.

Can you imagine how much everything would improve if Boz just bought himself a less clangy sounding guitar, or a couple of pedals?

He's probably without a record deal because he's seen as high maintenance. He must be profitable just on die hard fans who will buy everything.
 
In my opinion, Morrissey is just Not as "Big" a seller as he used to be anymore, and he has an awful reputation for cancelling things at the drop of a hat....what record label would really be prepared to invest in That sort of stroppy behaviour?? Sad to say, Morrisseys "Fan base" is on the wane, and it would just be so much easier for a label to sign a brand new "Girl /Boy band act"....I personally still Adore the man and (99% ) of his music, and will still buy any new releases which may appear...but I really do think his "Glory days" are well and truly over, with the general record-buying public.....and seeing as he is now publicly "insulting" his own Fan-sites lately, he seems to be cutting himself off even Further from his Fan-base...Now THAT'S gotta be just the thing to ensure lots of future record sales......
 

Black Cloud

Case Sensitive
Yeah, it's all fake. Those people with his name tattooed on their bodies? It's biro.
 

Maurice E

Junior Member
He must be profitable just on die hard fans who will buy everything.
In the UK, there are probably about 50,000 die-hard fans who would, for example, buy the next album regardless of reviews and the quality of the first single (assuming there was a single).

A conventionally-released album probably needs to sell at least (around) 200,000 - 300,000 to be an attractive prospect to a record company.
Had the sales of Who Ate Me Curry (380,000) not been a (largely hype-driven) blip, he'd be fine, but ROTT sold around 200,000 (possibly fewer) and YOR did 88,000.

A Morrissey album could potentially sell half a million but it would a) need to have at least three brilliant and hugely melodic songs and b) they would all need to be released as singles.

If I worked for a record company, I'd want to know that he has already written at least 2 such songs, and would be prepared to take record company advice on what to release as singles.
 

Tez09

New Member
I agree. ROTT was IMO a brilliant album and possibly the best of his solo efforts. I'll buy anything Moz does (although Maladjusted, apart from it's namesake single) was poor. If Moz did another ROTT with 2-3 headline songs then he'd make the necessary numbers. Having said that, isn't part of the appeal of Moz the lack of commercialism/wide appeal? The fact he isn't 'easy listening' is why I love his work...
 

starless

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Yes it is.
That's why Morrissey has been without a record deal since 1997.
 

mcrickson

Reckless Endangerment
Morrissey could get a record deal in an instant. Whether or not it's the record deal he WANTS is another story.
 

2-J

Member
The main reason he is without a record deal is his lacklustre workmanlike band, and the dull songs they churn out.

Boz wrote a few good ones back in the day, but Alain was always the stronger writer. Now Boz seems to have fallen off as well. Jesse has never been involved in the writing of a decent song.

When you think of all the amazing musicians out there who would kill to work with Moz, it's sad more than anything :straightface:

And the longer this goes on, the more isolated and paranoid he gets.
 

The_Myth

New Member
The main reason he is without a record deal is his lacklustre workmanlike band, and the dull songs they churn out.

Boz wrote a few good ones back in the day, but Alain was always the stronger writer. Now Boz seems to have fallen off as well. Jesse has never been involved in the writing of a decent song.

When you think of all the amazing musicians out there who would kill to work with Moz, it's sad more than anything :straightface:

And the longer this goes on, the more isolated and paranoid he gets.
When I consider some these issues, I start feeling very sad for Morrissey. And I am pretty sure he doesn't want anyone to pity him. And I am also pretty sure he doesn't deserve it! :-/ It's just a shame. He has such a beautiful voice.
 

SparkleBoy

worships Johnny Thunders

Emotional Guide Dog

Chairman Of The Bored
In 2002 he had First Of The Gang To Die & Irish Blood English Heart and it still took him two more years to get a record deal.

This time he's got People Are The Same Everywhere.

No, this website isn't why he hasn't got a record deal.
 

tigerbomb

New Member
Strange thing is there would be a line of writers happy to see him perform their work.

Why doesn't someone hook him up with Sparks for example?
 
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Skylarker

Guest
Will there really be anything on the new LP that he hasn't done or said already? I'm not saying I wouldn't listen to a new album immediately -I would- but c'mon, it's not like if and when we do get one it's gonna be some huge revelation, artistically. At this stage of the game we have a nice, fairly flawless 30 year back catalog to fall back on. Is there any among us here who truly believes that the new LP will be some major life-saving event? I don't.
 

Vauxhall95

I Know It's Over...
It wouldn't take much for the head of a record company to look at this and assume Morrissey has no fans. :tears:
Normally I would welcome someone who is making their first post and be overly polite, but are you kidding me?!

Here are some other aspects a label might consider before signing Morrissey:
a) The steady decline in sales numbers for his past three "comeback" albums. YATQ sold well, produced a live CD, and I believe four singles. ROTT sold less, but still produced some singles (not four). YOR sold extremely poorly despite the mainstream media giving it largely positive reviews, and it produced one single, yes? Not a encouraging trend line.
b) Morrissey has not done himself any favors with his comments on race, the royal wedding, Lady Di, and now the fans.
c) He has a reputation of being difficult to work with. The playing field is littered with the corpses of those who tried to manage him.
d) Because of the poor sales, most record companies are pushing for a reunion of The Smiths. They view this as a far safer investment. Clearly, Morrissey has refused, so there you have it.

Here's a thought: take a poll of those here who have leveled critical comments towards Morrissey's recent work and ask them approximately how much they have spent on Morrissey concerts, albums, singles, etc. The dollar amount would stretch into the thousands for most.
 

Jamie

Bluff, Ardour & Assoc.
ROTT sold less, but still produced some singles (not four). YOR sold extremely poorly despite the mainstream media giving it largely positive reviews, and it produced one single, yes?
RotT did produce four singles: You Have Killed Me, The Youngest Was The Most Loved, In The Future When All's Well, and I Just Want To See the Boy Happy. All four made the top 30.

YoR produced two: I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris and Something Is Squeezing My Skull. The latter missed the top 40.

EDIT: In addition to Maurice's cogent comments in the post following, it bears noting that two of the songs on YoR had previously been released as singles from the "Greatest Hits" package. What remained was not generally synonymous with "radio-friendly."
 
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