Hi Koen
yes, that warning, clearly posted from someone connected to one of the two guys who write here, one of these two guys are you, dear Koen. The Smiths "expert" who was asked to provide proof of those tapes but failed to even reply. As to that warning, have you ever asked why those listings were removed, and mine were not removed? it was deleted from ebay safeharbour because I have personally talked to an ebay agent who had evidence that the bad practices belonged to that ebayer who is clearly connected to someone here, maybe you, Koen. I was also told our previous listings were removed because someone told ebay that I was charging to accept Paypal payment. In fact I was very surprised to see ebay removed the listings a few minutes before the end because I was overcharging to take Paypal. I listed the same conditions in the past and nothing happened, ebay is full of listings which clearly state "4% fee for Paypal payments" etc.
Your revenge is typical of a loser who feels himself like an hunted dog. Are you scared someone discovers you never had any tape?
Why have you failed to answer to a clear question above, prove you have those tapes with flac and mp3 proof. Oh, probably the guy from Texas who asked for this proof is another of my partners. You're a joker. And remember, you even wrote me in private that you have mixed the reel to reel tape. Show us how well they were mixed. I have proof of anything I'm writing, so who wants copy of the emails sent by this so called Smiths expert can send me a private message. I will provide emails with full headers. His expertise is so high that he placed bids on our previous listings to "better following these auctions" (his own wrods) and he didn't think they were fake. But suddenly, when I mention he owns several tapes by disclosing several details on the ownership issue (but never wrote his name) he, SUDDENLY, realizes the records are fake. Well Koen, show us the Morrissey letters. You said to me you have dozens of letters written by Morrissey, you have several picture sleeve personally painted by Morrissey. Show us your expertise and your unbelievable collection. You want to sell your unbelievable collection? Sell it here! It's not real crap, if you have these items why are you so scared to admit it and send proofs?
Koen, you should also be aware I was contacted by a well known Warner Music producer about these tapes. The truth about you will come out soon.
As to the German guy (another partner of mine, sure), he shut your mounth, but of course anything you never saw does not exist. You're a clown.
I invite the administrator to check who is who in this forum. He has the tools to do it.
Hi Fernando,
I see you qualify everything as a revenge, well don’t waste your time on me:
1. The Toys_And _Collectables_2005 ebayer, UK based, was listing a warning on ebay because apparently you ripped him/her of for £500 some time ago. Whatever…, you guys fight that one out. His listing is obviously removed upon your request. Please notice all the negative feedback he/she all of a sudden received.
2. The jonnytwobags ebayer, also UK based, lists from time to time very nice Smiths collectibles. I’m sure collectors here bought stuff from him/her. He/she also listed a warning on ebay against the items you sell. He/she even gave certain details as to why your items are poor counterfeits. Again, removed upon your request (ebay probably doesn’t accept the listing of items one doesn’t really sell, but I believe you’re the expert in all this legal stuff and ebay tricks.)
I believe I did my contribution by pointing out to the collectors on this forum that this is dodgy business. Whatever, if someone really wants to buy your items, I really hope that he/she is happy with it. I advise anyone who’s interested to make a substantial offer to maybe contact these ebayers above and ask them why they reacted…
As to the tapes I have, this seems to be really important to you. My advise here is to just drop it and concentrate on your business. I just contacted you because, ideally, this is something that goes from collector to collector. Please notice that I didn’t reply anymore to your last e-mail containing dirty seller tricks. Maybe you also sell ‘upholstered’ second hand cars… Let it be clear, I will never do business with sharks. Just accept it.
Everything I wrote to you is public, no secrets (by the way, if you’re really interested and want to know more about the Decibel Demos, just read some literature). Usually, if one deals with a professional, one may expect some discretion. Your messages here and your way of dealing reveal a lot.
As to prooving I have these tapes, I really don’t feel any obligation towards you that I have to. But please do some homework first before you start accusing. There was a substantial article in Record Collector devoted to the sale of these tapes. It was titled: “Heaven Knows I’m Expensive Now”. I don’t understand you think I don’t have these, yet you find it important to mention that Warner Music has contacted you etc. etc. Whatever…
Any Smiths collector/fan on this forum really needing a proof that I have these, can always contact me. For those who are concerned, I did a hell of a job conserving these tapes.
As to your accusation that one could make ‘a thousand remixes’ to make lots of money, please read the sentence again but then as a kind person, not as a lawyeresque shark. Firstly, the world is really not waiting for a thousand remixes of Suffer Little Children. This was to clearly stress we’re talking about a studio tape, which needs mixing. It’s a question of terminology. A studio tape is sometimes confused for a master tape. A master tape contains a final mix (from the studio tape). Such master tape is not ‘mixable’. So to stress that we're talking about a mixable studio tape I used this ‘metaphor’. I concluded that mixing this tape makes you feel a Smith for a day. This is the experience of a Smiths fan, not the view of Sicilian mob. I could have found a way to the underworld a long time ago if I really wanted to, but that’s more for cowboys like you. I hope this closes the discussion about these tapes. As mentioned before, just try to concentrate on your items. Pretend I never contacted you. First you used this information to make your ebay listings look genuine, now you’re using it to distract from the real discussion (I invite you to look again at the title of this tread).
I see you feel uncomfortable that I initially bidded on your items. Let the world know, my ebay profile is ‘vrsvlk’. Collectors probably saw and will see that from time to time I bid on attractive items, but I’m not ‘fighting’ for an item anymore. I already told you I buy a genuine (!) negative sleeve for £500 (that was my offer) any time! I recently sold my copy and I know what collectors are prepared to pay, hence I was very curious what price it would fetch. Please note that I retracted my bid the moment I found out it was fake. Up till now I was unaware of counterfeits but as I already mentioned somewhere else they will appear, given the prices they fetch. The problem is that forgers are getting better and better every day. Believe me, it’s not my sole opinion they’re fake. But if YOU really believe they’re not, then don’t panic as you’re doing now and you will find a buyer.
Ok, I’m sure you’re blood thirsty and want to kick around again.
Enjoy the Italian sun, it’s worth more than this.
Belch,
Koen
