Is Morrissey anti-Palestinian?

Theo

Active Member
Does his gig in Israel suggest he's taking sides? What do you think? God bless Israel, says Morrissey. You won't find many Palestinians who agree with that. A great number of leftoid "intellectuals" in Europe call for a boycott of Israel but Morrissey is bucking them. Do you agree with his decision to gift Israel with a performance?
 
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Does his gig in Israel suggest he's taking sides? What do you think? God bless Israel, says Morrissey. You won't find many Palestinians who agree with that. A great number of leftoid "intellectuals" in Europe call for a boycott of Israel but Morrissey is bucking them. Do you agree with his decision to gift Israel with a performance?
I think he's also anti-Manchester City coz he refuses to play the CoMS aka the Blu Camp & he ignored me when I threw him a City shirt when he played in Edinburgh!

I'm boycotting the Israel gig because of his anti-City stance! That will show him not to mess with the Blues!

love

Grim
 

Kilt Uncle

Active Member
Does his gig in Israel suggest he's taking sides? What do you think? God bless Israel, says Morrissey. You won't find many Palestinians who agree with that. A great number of leftoid "intellectuals" in Europe call for a boycott of Israel but Morrissey is bucking them. Do you agree with his decision to gift Israel with a performance?
I think he's right to go over the head of governments and play to people in countries regardless of religion or political ideology.

And you're calling them Palestinians which represents progress on your part at least.
 

Jukebox Jury

Retired
I think he's also anti-Manchester City coz he refuses to play the CoMS aka the Blu Camp & he ignored me when I threw him a City shirt when he played in Edinburgh!

I'm boycotting the Israel gig because of his anti-City stance! That will show him not to mess with the Blues!

love

Grim
I agree with Grim.
At the Rome gig two years ago, Morrissey congratulated the locals on supporting 'The best team in the world' (Italy had won the world cup the weekend before). I shouted out ''Manchester City''. Morrissey turned back and said '' I remember that team as well'', as if to imply a negative connection.

As a result, I too will not be going to the gig in Israel.
As Siouxsie herself once sang..... 'will they sing happy No-o-el'?:D

Jukebox Jury
 

Sally Cinnamon

Discovered water on Mars!
He has also expressed a desire to play in Iran which suggest he is not anti-Palestinian / Arab.
I remember a time when Persians were decidedly anti-Arab... Maybe they will be again, and Morrissey knows something we don't?
 

dicartwright

Active Member
I'm afraid he might just be... I don't even wanna think about it. He's probably the most cliche in that area, which doesn't say much about him.. :tears:
 

philip

New Member
Israel has been offered peace many, many, many times. But have always rejected it and are still doing so. The first time was in 1971 when president Sadat of Egypt offered Israel a full peace treaty, almost exactly in the terms of the official U.S. goverment policy at the time. Israel recognised it to be a genuine peace offer. The cabinet considered it and decided to reject it. It was a choice they preferred expansion to security. That would have meant security, it would heve meant the end of the international conflict.
Expansion at that time was primarily into the northeastern Sinai where Israel had expelled thousand of farmers, driven them into the desert destroyed Towns, Mosque and Cemetaries. They simply levelled the place in order to establish a new city an all jew city called Yamit.
The real question was how the US would react and would it continue with it's earlier policy therefore supporting Egypts peace offer or would it shift and support Israeli expansion. There was a discussion in which Kissinger prevailed the national security advisor at the time and the United States adopted his policy of what he called stalemate meaning no negotiations just force and that led directly to the 1973 war. Which turned out to be a very close thing for Israel and it compelled the US and Israel to accept Sadats 1971 proposal.
It took several years but after many negotiations the US finally acccepted the 1971 offer in 1979 at Camp David. That is recorded in US history as a great triumph of US peacemaking, in fact it was a diplomatic disaster which led to a major war, serious threat of nuclear war, anguish and torment for years. Acutally the terms that the US and Israel accepted in 1979 where harsher from their than the ones offered in 1971. The 1971 offer said nothing about the Palestinians just a vague mention of the rights of refugees.
By the mid seventies the Palestian issue had entered the international agenda, Sadat brought it up and there were various handwaving about it. The 1971 offer is rarely discussed, I think it was one of the most fateful ones in Israels history and in fact the history of the region. Israel and the United States had a clear choice, one option was to integrate peacefully into region the other was to rely on force, meaning in particular to become a US client state (because there is no other way to live by the sword).

I could go on and I will. Later.

Tata
 

Paulc

On holiday by mistake
Philip the thread title: "is Morrissey anti-palestinian"

but then you were talking about events that took place in 1971

what has one to do with the other????

one important point:

Both israelis and palestinians were free to attend the heatwave festival and both did.

There is a good albeit long thread where we debated alot of this stuff some time back:
http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=86014
 

iamkali62

New Member
Does his gig in Israel suggest he's taking sides? What do you think? God bless Israel, says Morrissey. You won't find many Palestinians who agree with that. A great number of leftoid "intellectuals" in Europe call for a boycott of Israel but Morrissey is bucking them. Do you agree with his decision to gift Israel with a performance?
Theo, this is a touchy one. I don't think he should have said that....opening a Pandora's box for more trouble. I am not anti Israel, but then again, I am not anti Palestinian. I could say some things here, but I don't think it would be a great idea. :(
 
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