Is Coronavirus as serious as they say?

born to mourn and yawn

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I mostly watch CNN only during presidential elections. The way they portray vaccination sceptics though, has aroused my interest. There was an interview with a handful of non-vaxxers. These folks, unfortunately, were completely unable to articulate themselves. They even looked pretty clueless, but nevertheless opinionated. Then, there are the extremist fear-mongers, bringing up nazi-comparisons and whatnot in utmost hostility.

My question: Where is the modest, old and bald high school maths teacher, quietly doing some logical maths calculations? Does anybody want to listen to him? Why don't we see such folks on TV?
 
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Hovis Lesley

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I mostly watch CNN only during presidential elections. The way they portray vaccination critics though, has aroused my interest. There was an interview with a handful of non-vaxxers. These folks, unfortunately, were completely unable to articulate themselves. They even looked pretty clueless, but nevertheless opinionated. Then, there are the extremist fear-mongers, bringing up nazi-comparisons and whatnot in utmost hostility.

My question: Where is the modest, old and bald high school maths teacher, quietly doing some logical maths calculations? Does anybody want to listen to him? Why don't we see such folks on TV?
The modest maths teacher is likely wise enough to know that TV is the medium of entertainment and placation—not critical reflection. His/her mind is inoculated, to resist its pull.
 

born to mourn and yawn

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The modest maths teacher is likely wise enough to know that TV is the medium of entertainment and placation—not critical reflection. His/her mind is inoculated, to resist its pull.
Alright, let's not stress the modesty too much. Rather, my point is that cnn would be able to find such an Atticus Finch-like person somewhere, with enough narcissism inside him to feel the pull (or maybe a younger coworker he wants to impress), to do the boring but necessary maths, if cnn wanted to. But instead, what I have seen so far are either inarticulate but opinionated folks who couldn't even tell you why they prefer drinking tea to coffee, or your southern hate-mongering politician.
Are we supposed to think, as a conclusion, that it is cnn that represents the reasonable, clever, mild-mannered section of the US population?
 

born to mourn and yawn

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To my horror, I noticed that some major media outlets here in Germany have started to use baby language now when talking about vaccinations or injections. They no longer use the medical terms, but the word "Pieks" which is pronounced "peeks" and means "little sting or bite", like that of an insect, for example.

So, one embarassing headline reads, "Third Pieks for the elderly and immuno-compromised soon to come" or "Israel starts with the third Pieks" or "Pieks against Corona: Vaccination offer for children 12+".

They even use the incorrect spelling with an extra "e" which makes it look even more childish. Reading the headlines of some newspapers, feels like reading a children's book all of a sudden.

I guess, this form of trivialization is due to the government's official vaccination recommendation for the 12-17 year olds, which was declared yesterday.

All in the face of the latest CDC findings about the inefficacy of vaccinations and our permanent vaccination committee's refusal to support the government's recommendation.
 

Hovis Lesley

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Alright, let's not stress the modesty too much. Rather, my point is that cnn would be able to find such an Atticus Finch-like person somewhere, with enough narcissism inside him to feel the pull (or maybe a younger coworker he wants to impress), to do the boring but necessary maths, if cnn wanted to. But instead, what I have seen so far are either inarticulate but opinionated folks who couldn't even tell you why they prefer drinking tea to coffee, or your southern hate-mongering politician.
Are we supposed to think, as a conclusion, that it is cnn that represents the reasonable, clever, mild-mannered section of the US population?
Yes, the BBC tries to convince us of much the same here in the UK. Frankly, it doesn’t wash with most and obviously they’re loathed to report that. The whole thing is designed to alienate people; to make you feel ‘your mind isn’t your own’.
 

born to mourn and yawn

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This is a huge sign that something worse than the virus is going on

What's he whining about? He should get a lawyer like these guys here from Austria and threaten YT to fight a test case. YT had blocked one of their videos in which Mr Bonelli had asked people to use the comment section to report on Covid deaths (people who died WITH covid, i.e. within 28 days of the diagnosis) and on Vaccination deaths (people who died WITH the vaccine, i.e. within 28 days of having been vaccinated). There were 5000-6000 replies within a short period of time, and then the video was blocked.
After YT had received the letter from their lawyer, the video was back in short notice (Alert: NO somber piano accompaniment employed).
 
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born to mourn and yawn

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So glad somebody told me...

Question: if the injection is administered incorrectly, i.e. without aspiration, and it accidentially hits a vessel, is this more painful or less painful than getting it straight into an intramuscular area?

So, death and other complications are not (only?) the vaccines' fault, but (also?) the fault of incompetent medical staff and doctors?
Interesting new thought.
 
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countthree

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What's he whining about? He should get a lawyer like these guys here from Austria and threaten YT to fight a test case. YT had blocked one of their videos in which Mr Bonelli had asked people to use the comment section to report on Covid deaths (people who died WITH covid, i.e. within 28 days of the diagnosis) and on Vaccination deaths (people who died WITH the vaccine, i.e. within 28 days of having been vaccinated). There were 5000-6000 replies within a short period of time, and then the video was blocked.
After YT had received the letter from their lawyer, the video was back in short notice (Alert: NO somber piano accompaniment employed).
Sadly I don't understand German. The only TV journalist who questions everything about covid in my country (she's a woman), told that two of the guests of her show suspended their visits because of complications with the vax: one is in the hospital and the other had a leg twice its size without a proper diagnosis until finally was told it was a thrombosis. Strange.
 

born to mourn and yawn

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Sadly I don't understand German. The only TV journalist who questions everything about covid in my country (she's a woman), told that two of the guests of her show suspended their visits because of complications with the vax: one is in the hospital and the other had a leg twice its size without a proper diagnosis until finally was told it was a thrombosis. Strange.
Why dont you understand German, ffs! Whats wrong with you? ;-)

He says that the austrian government had announced a year ago or so that soon every austrian would know at least one person who had died of Corona. Instead, he says, he still doesnt know anybody who died bc of corona in his own circle of acquaintances but two ppl who he knew died after having been vaxxed. This made him ask some questions.
 
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