Inside information on Moz, Marr & management

Odbmke

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It's a sad day as Galli is widely known in the music industry as a good guy and really tried to do the best for Moz.

He was responsible for the massive Smiths reunion offer that the Mozzer signed off on. It was the first time Moz ever signed off on a Smith's reunion tour. I heard Galli even met with Marr's manager in London to try and mend the relationship.

Galli was also able to get Moz multiple record deal offers from big indie labels for Bonfire of Teenagers and Without Music the World Dies, but Moz rejected them as he only wishes to put music out on a major label. I find this to be very odd as I've always thought he was an advocate who protested against the "man" and the "major labels," but then won't sign to an indie label? Doesn't Red Light have multiple huge artists on indie labels that are massively successful? Aren't major labels dead in the rock n' roll space? Especially for a 65 year old?

There was also another big deal Galli had on the table regarding getting all the rights back to many of Moz's albums from BMG.

Galli inherited the Marr trademark issue from past management. From my understanding of the situation Galli wanted Moz to sign the paperwork splitting the trademark with Marr 50/50, but Moz thinks he should own 100% of the Smiths trademark and won't sign it. This is most likely the issue that made them part ways. Good luck with getting 100% of the trademark Moz.

On the flip side, Marr's camp is extremely dodgy. Management reached out to a very well-known singer of a major band (you can guess who) to see if he'd tour as the lead singer of "The Smiths." He of course rejected it right away. Marr's management also floated the idea of Marr touring as the Smiths to UK promoters which was also rejected.

As someone on the inside, I also know and got to see the plan and roll out Galli put together for Bonfire and it was genius. I was on some of those zoom meetings. It would have been a huge comeback for Moz and put him back on top. It started with the social media campaign and then a huge launch of a fan club that contains a ton of unreleased tracks, behind the scenes video and never before seen concerts. The fan club was scheduled to be launched in a few weeks and was already built. That would have lead into the first single from Bonfire and a big release date announcement for Bonfire. It was all scheduled to kick off the week of the upcoming tour with the album coming in 25, but Moz wouldn’t sign to the indie label. I thought all the hype about Marr was a well planned and executed PR stunt to get attention before the first single and album launch, but it was just Moz being Moz.

I actually thought that Moz and Galli were a good combo. He has the temperament and credibility as a level headed, smart, genuine, well liked manager who's in it for the right reasons. Sad day in Moz land.
 
Management reached out to a very well-known singer of a major band (you can guess who) to see if he'd tour as the lead singer of "The Smiths."
Who?
 
Why would Morrissey refuse to sign on to an indie record label? I'm sure there are some decent sized indie labels he could be signed to.. Doesn't he recall being f***ed over by all the major ones?
 
Why would Morrissey refuse to sign on to an indie record label? I'm sure there are some decent sized indie labels he could be signed to.. Doesn't he recall being f***ed over by all the major ones?
His ego has always been his weakness.

Let's look at the facts:

1) He is 65 years old. In this business, age matters.
2) His last album sold dreadfully.
3) He has a well deserved reputation for being difficult.

When you look at these facts, it isn't difficult to see why major labels won't touch him.

He seems to think that if he sulks long enough, everything will just fall into place.

It won't.
 
Very interesting stuff, thanks for sharing. These days, almost all of Morrissey's contemporaries from the 1970s - 1990s are putting out their new material on smaller labels. It's just the way it goes. Sad that Morrissey can't see this as a path forward.
 
Time is ticking down for us all -- and for Morrissey especially, he doesn't have that much time left.
Why does this give me so much anxiety?

I just hope all of these claims aren't true.
 
Very interesting stuff, thanks for sharing. These days, almost all of Morrissey's contemporaries from the 1970s - 1990s are putting out their new material on smaller labels. It's just the way it goes. Sad that Morrissey can't see this as a path forward.
He seems to think that it's forever 1988 and that he's still as popular and relevant as he was back then. It's sad.
 
The whole idea of having "The Smiths" without either Morrissey or Marr is utterly ludicrous.

It's like if Ernie Wise had teamed up with Roy Chubby Brown and tried calling it Morecambe and Wise.
Very true. But it explains why Marr was so incensed about both the aborted Joyce Classical Smiths gig and the Rick Astley/Blossoms Glastonbury set... he was planning a big sub-headline festival set and tour of his own. Rick took the wind out of his sails there.

Noel G was talking a few years ago about wanting to play second guitar if they ever reformed. Perhaps Marr even approached him, he does a good line in Smiths covers. Marr loves money as much if not more than Moz. he's just spent 15 years carefully reinventing himself as the 'custodian' of the band to justify doing it 'for the fans' and not his wallet. A well played but parried attempt to seek revenge and push Morrissey out of the picture.
 
Why would Morrissey refuse to sign on to an indie record label? I'm sure there are some decent sized indie labels he could be signed to.. Doesn't he recall being f***ed over by all the major ones?
I don't know about the distribution side of things, but aren't Radiohead, Adele and The Artic Monkeys signed to Indies?

Depeche Mode and Nick Cave spent a hell of a long time signed to Mute.
 
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