Stefan Krix
Collector's guild
No - to me, it sounds pretty much like the beginning of Death Cult's Ghost Dance.
Peter
Well, that's ok by myself!
No - to me, it sounds pretty much like the beginning of Death Cult's Ghost Dance.
Peter
Seconded. On both counts.I agree. Skull is the belter on the album. I do hope it's the second single.
Peter
Did you also have that Mark Knopfler / Dire Straits feeling on the first moments of Black Cloud? ;-)
Jesse's music reminds me simultaneously of Sweet and Tender Hooligan - it is very Smithsesque... QUOTE]
Yes, I agree. As I wrote in my reply to the news about the leak:
It's quite cool how the bass line during the first chord in "I'm OK by myself" is exactly the same as the bass line during the first chord in "Sweet and tender hooligan". The only difference is the key the songs are in.
You have just committed the ultimate Morrissey Solo forum crime. Praising a song written by Jesse Tobias. You'd better hope Jamie doesn't find out!
Ah...but is he Ok By himself?? Is that not what people say sometimes, when they are sheilding themselves, protecting themelves. They tell people "Oh I'm fine, I'm ok by myself.
Cos if you look at his lyrics in say.."I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris" he says "In the absence of your love, and in the absence of human touch..." its pretty clear he desires love and affection...as do we all but very few admit such! So people say I'm Ok By Myself but do they mean it?.....
and me...I'll have to throw my arms around Lancashire cos nobody wants my love..... LOL! we all want love! we all want to be with someone! I know I do!
I'm throwing my arms around...around Cleveland because....only filth and factories accept my love..............
Which, I guess, makes Jesse Richard Oakes and Alain Whyte Bernard Butler then...
Cheers,
Jamie
Actually, Richards Oakes wrote some good songs!
Including, of course, "Trash" which Alain transmogrified into "First of the Gang To Die"...
I definitely prefer Bernard, although Richard (co-)wrote maybe my all time favorite by Suede: "Saturday night". It's such a beautful song.
*rofl*
NOW I am awake.
My take on the album is that the lyrics altogether seem, as very often, also if you look at singles with their B-sides, contradictory in a way. But then again they don't. They reflect something that Morrissey has said often, it is not a matter of one person loving another one or being loved by another person, it has to be musual, both people have to love each other. And if you ask me, they have to love themselves, too. It is great if you are loved by somebody else, but is it anything but nice if you don't have the same feeling for this other person? I mean if you know you like that person but being in a serious relationship would still make you always think that there is somebody else on this planet and you'd feel terrible if you actually meet this other person but are stuck with this one. It is not even nice, if you don't like the other person and feel nothing but pushed by their presence. And then you think you love somebody else, but this other person likes you and doesn't really love you. So you are rather by yourself and enjoy to do the things you like to instead of running around with another person, whom you like but don't love, doing things you don't really want to... or you stick to your friends and do the things you like to do with them.
In retrospect, that joke was one too far because Oakes is (was?) a much more creditable songwriter than Jesse has proven to be thus far. Even when Suede was in decline, I would take Obsessions over I Just Want to See The Boy Happy any year. In fact, you could say that Richard helped resuscitate Suede at a critical juncture the same way Alain did for Morrissey in 1992.
By the way, if you think FOTGTD sounds like Trash, you should take a listen to Stay With Me by Johnny Panic and the Bible of Dreams, the band Alain moonlit with in the late Nineties - right down to the keyboards in the outro.
Cheers,
Jamie
I will admit that Birthday may well be Morrissey's best song of the 21st Century...
My favorite (new) song on this album !!
and Skull ... is the best I think
Ah...but is he Ok By himself?? Is that not what people say sometimes, when they are sheilding themselves, protecting themelves. They tell people "Oh I'm fine, I'm ok by myself.
Cos if you look at his lyrics in say.."I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris" he says "In the absence of your love, and in the absence of human touch..." its pretty clear he desires love and affection...as do we all but very few admit such! So people say I'm Ok By Myself but do they mean it?.....
and me...I'll have to throw my arms around Lancashire cos nobody wants my love..... LOL! we all want love! we all want to be with someone! I know I do!
*rofl*
NOW I am awake.
My take on the album is that the lyrics altogether seem, as very often, also if you look at singles with their B-sides, contradictory in a way. But then again they don't. They reflect something that Morrissey has said often, it is not a matter of one person loving another one or being loved by another person, it has to be musual, both people have to love each other. And if you ask me, they have to love themselves, too. It is great if you are loved by somebody else, but is it anything but nice if you don't have the same feeling for this other person? I mean if you know you like that person but being in a serious relationship would still make you always think that there is somebody else on this planet and you'd feel terrible if you actually meet this other person but are stuck with this one. It is not even nice, if you don't like the other person and feel nothing but pushed by their presence. And then you think you love somebody else, but this other person likes you and doesn't really love you. So you are rather by yourself and enjoy to do the things you like to instead of running around with another person, whom you like but don't love, doing things you don't really want to... or you stick to your friends and do the things you like to do with them.
At first I didn't really think much of this track. It has taken a couple of days of constant listening to YOR and now I genuinely think this track is one of the best he has ever written. Such a great vocal performance, and it really evokes a mischevious trickster quality - 'this might make you throw up in your bed, but I am OK by myself' and then the shamanic tribal 'ya da hoo's
It can be read on so many levels. Is he speaking to a potential lover, a past love, society, authority, journalists, the NME, the audience, the fans, ex-Smiths, Marr...ALL
Its a defiant and dazzling song and one of extreme triumphal power.
I'm in love.