Morrissey petitions Just Jeans and Portmans to stop using angora wool
The 55-year-old singer's campaign comes weeks after he banned the sale of meat products inside the Sydney Opera House during his four-day Vivid festival gigs.
I'm a Dying Billionaire. I approach Morrissey and Marr . . .
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Vesper Nocturne
a lifetime of nothing but almosts and nevers
^Good. Also, “agora wool” isn’t wool, just fyi.
Morrissey Urges Uniqlo to Dump Cruelly Produced Australian Wool
Music legend Morrissey is joining the international outcry asking clothing retailer Uniqlo to follow the lead of Muji and other compassionate companies and stop using wool from Australian farmers.
Vesper Nocturne
a lifetime of nothing but almosts and nevers
^Also great. Because that is definitely not how ethically and responsibly sourced wool is shorn.
Skylarker
freedom wasted has never ever tasted so good
Disagree.
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Captain Caveman
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I'm not sure it was necessarily a cynical ploy for popularity - the fact is Morrissey and Marr now hold polar opposite political views. Marr is a left-wing, Guardian-reader, pro European Union 'immigrants welcome' guy, whilst Morrissey in a pro-Brext anti-immigrant who has allied himself with Fox News alt-right conspiracy theory brigade. I'm sure they are both sincere in their beliefs, and each think the other is a blithering idiot (at best), or at worst 'the enemy' when it comes to political matters. Things were bad enough when there was just personal issues between them, but this just adds to the unlikelihood of any reunion, no matter how many millions you throw at them.
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marqueemoon
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Citation needed.
Amy
from the Ice Age to the dole age
Morrissey is a jumble of contradictions and says things to raise eyebrows, I'm not sure his views are really that clear cut. He never liked Trump either. Still, for someone who has lived in other countries for 25+ years to be banging on about Brexit and migration, that's just laughable.
Thewlis
Very Senior Member
He’s not banging on about them though. His main concerns are animal rights and a hostile and lying press.
On the first they agree, but the press has driven them further apart. Marr is the mainstream (musical) press’ good guy, approachable and with the right views, Moz is depicted as the villain and crucified for his supposed views.
All it would have taken was for just one nice word of support from Johnny and all could have been resolved. But he chose to disassociate himself from Moz completely and hence the open letter and the escalation.
Vesper Nocturne
a lifetime of nothing but almosts and nevers
This comment holds less water than a sieve. Uncontrolled migration at levels which cannot be supported by the existing societal infrastructure in a given host country/ies (ie ensuring jobs, homes, welfare, education, and medical) without putting an immense burden on the domestic population in terms of all of these additional costs necessarily coming out of the pay cheques of the country’s own working population, because there is nowhere else that financial cost can cone from: has exactly z-e-r-o to do with Mortissey, who is a person who is income generating and supporting themselves, traveling or living in other countries for 25+ years, as you put it.
He is not only income generating but his business is also income generating for others, and he directly provides through his work a livelihood for countless other people that work for him.
How this equates to unfettered migration of people that cannot support themselves in various countries that have dire poverty issues amongst their own citizens and who suffer from
an acute lack of resources to adequately support citizens in need, even amongst their own populations is really a terrible thing you’ve tried to infer and to link in this case.
It has no link whatsoever.
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Nakedbrunch
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f*** me, that's the biggest load of bollocks I've seen since, well, the last time I logged on to twitter.
Amy
from the Ice Age to the dole age
There are serious arguments to be made about uncontrolled migration, of course there are - but when or where has Morrissey ever made any? He hasn't. That's why I said that his views are not necessarily as cut and dry as they appear. He has never engaged with issues around migration in any serious way, beyond soundbites poking fun at the Mayor of London's accent, talking about acid attacks and countries being thrown away and linking to all sorts of YouTuber lunacy on his website. All of which makes him look like an out of touch fool at best, spouting from the Sunset Marquis about a country he hasn't lived in for decades & about issues that are extremely unlikely to affect him (mostly as a result of his wealth and income-generating status, freedom to travel etc) - that's the only thing I was inferring.
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Amy
from the Ice Age to the dole age
I'm not sure that anyone in their right mind could be expected to support the For Britain madness that almost collapsed M's career, it was unbelievable. But you're right, one kind word from Johnny at a time when M was being crucified everywhere would have gone a long way. It didn't need to be about politics. Just some kind of acknowledgement that it was all becoming an ugly pile-on, that M was human & that the truth might be more nuanced than the media would have you believe, would have been something. Morrissey didn't help himself either though. It's incredibly sad.
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Anonymous
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See, I think it's unrealistic to expect Marr to have any kind of 'nuanced' view on Morrissey's various statements post The Smiths. Even on this site, where us obsessive fans spend hours pouring over the nuance of every Morrissey interview or statement, it seems as though there's an equal divide between those who either think that he's been misrepresented in the media, misquoted, or 'what he really meant to say was...', and those who have come to accept that he has some frankly dodgy views, and either agree with him or can look past them.
By all accounts, other than a nostalgic drive on the Moor, and a boozy night in the pub where they thought about getting back together, Morrissey and Marr have not spent any meaningful time together over the past 30+ years. At this point,they are virtually strangers. Marr is busy with his own career, and won't be scanning ever Morrissey interview for nuances and 'get out' clauses - all he'll have heard are the steady drip of toxic headlines, and whatever his Twitter followers and various interviewers tell him ('Here - look at this ghastly thing Morrissey said - what do you reckon to that'?) These days he's far closer to Billy Bragg, who will have been dripping poison in his ear about Morrissey for years. Of course he thinks Moz is on the same wavelength as Donald Trump - I expect all he ever hears is the bad stuff.
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Perfectly Satisfied Living Rent Free
I don't think Johnny is that well informed or intelligent, he just parrots things
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Tensely Packed
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Then you don’t know Marr at all. There’s a reason that Morrissey considered him his equal and it wasn’t just his talent.
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Perfectly Satisfied Living Rent Free
I never claimed to know him, I just know he's dumb
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Anonymous
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I still don't understand why Morrissey hates Trump, when on the face of it they seem to share so many views.
