'I feel like I've been had': Morrissey's collaborators respond to his politics - The Guardian

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'I feel like I've been had': Morrissey's collaborators respond to his politics - The Guardian
The former Smiths singer’s new album features guest spots from Billie Joe Armstrong and Grizzly Bear’s Ed Droste. Are they not put off by his increasingly unpleasant right-wing stance?

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As US music magazine the Fader asked: “What possible reason could any of these people have for lining up behind Morrissey now?”

Droste declined to comment. The only artist willing to speak with the Guardian was Canadian vocalist Ariel Engle, who performs with cult indie outfit Broken Social Scene. She received a call from the American producer Joe Chiccarelli asking her to contribute backing vocals for a cover of Joni Mitchell’s Don’t Interrupt the Sorrow. “I thought, ‘Oh the Smiths, sure’,” she says. “It was $500 for two hours’ work.”

Engle says she didn’t become aware of Morrissey’s political views until the album was announced and a friend emailed to question her involvement. “It’s a very weak argument to claim ignorance,” she says, “but it is my argument. It’s not an excuse but it happens to be the truth.”

Morrissey’s manager, Peter Katsis, says he is unaware of statements made by any guest vocalists, but that the intention of the covers album was supposed to be fun. “This is where his head is at,” he says. “Maybe enough has been said with the last few albums being political.” Of Morrissey’s political views, Katsis says: “I manage his artistic career and sometimes I have to deal with things he says, but it’s not for me to comment.”

Chiccarelli echoes Katsis’s sentiment. “I can’t speak to Moz’s politics,” he says. “I’m a record-maker. I’ve known him 10 years and he’s been a gentleman and a pleasure. I consider him a friend.” When asked about the far-right figures for whom Morrissey has expressed support, Chiccarelli says: “I’d really have to research it and see if it crossed a particular line for me.”

Engle says that learning of Morrissey’s political opinions has left a “bad taste”, and that she stands in opposition to his views. “The inflammatory things he says are not my politics. I think he’s completely out of line. I grew up around multiculturalism and I am the product of multiculturalism and immigration. I feel like I’ve been had, but it’s my fault.”

The American singer LP offered a statement through a PR representative: “As I’m a huge fan of his music and poetry, I was honoured to be asked to collaborate on the album.” Representatives for Lydia Night of California band the Regrettes offered no comment, but the 18-year-old told punk magazine Kerrang!: “I’ve grown up loving the Smiths – my cat’s name is Morrissey!” Representatives for Armstrong said he was in the studio and therefore unreachable.

The guest stars on California Son are all North American, suggesting a difference between perceptions of the former Smiths frontman in the US and UK. Katsis, who is American, sees the critical focus on Morrissey’s politics as a British preoccupation.

“I don’t think they know enough about it to care about it,” he says of Morrissey’s US fans. “I don’t feel knowledgable enough to comment on British politics, therefore it’s probably not as important to me or the international fans as it is to UK fans. This whole thing has had me perplexed. The subjects are very complicated and dividing.”

The figures bear out Morrissey’s enduring support across the Atlantic. He ended 2018 with arena shows in North and South America, and has announced his first Canadian tour in 20 years for this April. In November 2017, Los Angeles City Council declared 10 November “Morrissey Day”.

“In America, he tends to be seen as the rock star who sang about queer life and spoke openly about feminism when nobody else did,” says Rolling Stone critic Rob Sheffield. “These two images define him, and he’s still seen in terms of his pioneering place in history. His grumpy old age is not really held against him. Americans tend not to follow UK politics very closely, so when he makes mind-blowingly offensive statements there might be outrage or humiliation for a few days, or hours, but then it’s back to listening to The Queen Is Dead”.




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Is this going to be the final straw. I need Morrissey Solo. But I'm coming out with stupid comments at the end of the night. I'm lonely fans. Forgive me.

Tomorrow is a new day.

Anyways, Morrissey is a bit patriotic, though most likely self-misinformed about who he says he supports. But ‘racist’? nah.
 
How do ya feel about workin' with an artist like Moz, who stood up against Turkey murder?

Yes, of course they left out all the important interrogation questions.

It wouldn’t help their narrative/agenda.
 
Tomorrow is a new day.

Anyways, Morrissey is a bit patriotic, though most likely self-misinformed about who he says he supports. But ‘racist’? nah.
I am a bit racist. But I think, there can be degrees of racism. I openly admit it. I will be racist all my life and I'll still love
Is this going to be the final straw. I need Morrissey Solo. But I'm coming out with stupid comments at the end of the night. I'm lonely fans. Forgive me.
Ignore everything I said. I want to look as though I fit in. Does it take another drink though.. No, yes, maybe.
 
I'm talking with drink Uncle. You'll have to excuse me. But I am still racist. I have certain notions about people. I distinguish between people but I Try to love them all as much. Pardon the drink.
Raggy, this is probably not the best arena to attempt questioning, insightful dialogue on inflammatory topics, when you're pissed. But I think we all know you're not about to invade Poland or anything. Maybe just go and get yourself a veggie kebab?
 
fact is rather than feel "had" by Moz, just feel sorry for him, his racism is by mental defect more than anything else really and its not some uncommon one, its the same kind millions of other Brits have, the shit that lead to Brexit and a no deal Brexit at that which will shrink your economy and lead to border crossing check points in North Ireland for people to blow up again, enjoy, there is a very real price for xenophobia :thumb:

:paranoid:

very well thought out dissertation of the matter. how does the King of Sweden play into all this.

:crazy:
 
GO. f***. YOURSELF.

You are genuinely saying you want to live somewhere where people can be openly racist, and you're saying this in defence of a singer.

GO.f***. YOURSELF.

And good luck finding a place that fits your desires.
Bradford?
 
Raggy, this is probably not the best arena to attempt questioning, insightful dialogue on inflammatory topics, when you're pissed. But I think we all know you're not about to invade Poland or anything. Maybe just go and get yourself a veggie kebab?

And yet, Morrissey is ?
 
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WtF??????? a skinny sock puppet complaining about someone ELSE having sympathy for someone!!:squiffy:
unreal, must be close to comet time.



CNN=Communists News Network for FFS. they regularly have ayatollahs on there.:lbf:
 
Yes sympathy from another human being. Outrageous.

Sympathy for an out and out racist and you wonder why he gets tarred with the same brush? This is why his UK support crumbled. It would be the same if he said he was sympathetic to Trump, his Mexican support would crumble within days. I appreciate that to you he can do no wrong but when he made those comments, he crossed the line with his UK fan base. Maybe time will heal that, who knows?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6746757/Tommy-Robinson-DELETED-Facebook-Instagram.html
 
I didn't mention Morrissey. I was just talking to my friend Raggy.


Yes, but you’re friends with a self-professed racist, and Uncleskinny and the other hatebots on here don’t
have the heart to understand you.

Just saying.
 
This site is soo brilliant. I want all of you to drink a case of beer and come back online while you're peaking so I can read you all finishing this conversation. No one on this site is horribly racist. Calm down. Its Over is fab.
 
:confused:

HOLY BLUE FUNGUS!!

I think all the hot selling Moz platters have caused a meltdown at Sock Puppet Central Council
House.:ahhh:


a disarray of dissertations and rocket science from North Ireland to the nature of twat sympathy.:drama:

:lbf:
 
Sympathy for an out and out racist and you wonder why he gets tarred with the same brush? This is why his UK support crumbled. It would be the same if he said he was sympathetic to Trump, his Mexican support would crumble within days. I appreciate that to you he can do no wrong but when he made those comments, he crossed the line with his UK fan base. Maybe time will heal that, who knows?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6746757/Tommy-Robinson-DELETED-Facebook-Instagram.html

Would hating Robinson change Robinson?

Morrissey’s heart is bigger and wiser than all combined that visit this site.
 
Appreciate you are not from the UK but this is the prick who Morrissey expressed sympathy for.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/26/tech/tommy-robinson-facebook-ban/index.html
Moz did not feel sorry for Mr Robinson, what he said and you well know, is that it was wrong what happened to him i.e. dragged before a court and found guilty within 24hrs whilst the child molesters that Mr Robinson was filming were out on bail, but don't let a fact get in your way to twist things
 
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