LuvMozzy
it hasn't
I'm glad you've stopped caring what people think, it might help you next time you visit London and get called fatty on the street.
I'm glad you've stopped caring what people think, it might help you next time you visit London and get called fatty on the street.
Scarlet Ibis
The Chicken of D.C.
Clearly, you have won this round. My fat invalidates my every opinion and statement. Thank you for reminding me of my place. I should know better by now.
dailyalice
Frink Squad Member
C'mon, personal attacks are really unnecessary.
When talking about his mixing desks or whatever, he's probably talking to fellow musicians and guitar players - they probably find that stuff terribly interesting. I don't find it interesting either. But choosing not to read interviews by him or being bored by his interviews does not automatically lead me to actively dislike him. It just means I prefer to spend my time appreciating his music.
Also, Johnny Marr's main venue for providing entertainment is through his music, not through interviews. Only people like Paris Hilton have to be interesting in their interviews and personal life because there is nothing else. Johnny has talent, which is why people bother to interview him in the first place.
At worst, I'd be indifferent to him (only I can't coz Moz loves him and I love Moz and so I have to have a little warm spot for him.)
When talking about his mixing desks or whatever, he's probably talking to fellow musicians and guitar players - they probably find that stuff terribly interesting. I don't find it interesting either. But choosing not to read interviews by him or being bored by his interviews does not automatically lead me to actively dislike him. It just means I prefer to spend my time appreciating his music.
Also, Johnny Marr's main venue for providing entertainment is through his music, not through interviews. Only people like Paris Hilton have to be interesting in their interviews and personal life because there is nothing else. Johnny has talent, which is why people bother to interview him in the first place.
At worst, I'd be indifferent to him (only I can't coz Moz loves him and I love Moz and so I have to have a little warm spot for him.)
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LuvMozzy
it hasn't
I didn't say that to her; she posted a thread about it.
The thread is called 'i don't like johnny marr' I said why I don't like him. It's my opinion, so why all the outrage and condemnation? I don't condemn others for liking him.
He has talent; but he leaves me cold. That's how I feel.
PregnantForTheLastTime
Hideous trait.
I was thinking he was a citizen of another place mentioned on Electronic's debut LP.
They have a song called Chicago, Illinois? Why have I never heard that?
Jukebox Jury
Retired
So if you heard Mike's side of the story and his feelings about the situation and taking into account that he is the same age as Johnny, would you completely forgive him too?
Jukebox Jury
Scarlet Ibis
The Chicken of D.C.
So if you heard Mike's side of the story and his feelings about the situation and taking into account that he is the same age as Johnny, would you completely forgive him too?
Jukebox Jury
I have heard Mike's side of the story. It's bullshit. (Also, if it's important to you to talk about this further, I'll do it in a non-public place because I refuse to say more about THAT stuff in public... Not that I want to talk about it at all.)
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marisela
Junior Member
Wow, Like I said their is a differance between ignorance and being stupid.
Johnny Marr is a guitar player and if the Smiths were not appealing to your EARS then I would say you have very bad taste in music.
Simple as that..
Do not even go there when it comes to Johnny Marrs talent. It is just wrong. very wrong.
marisela
Junior Member
Because Johnny Marr has already been measured.. Long ago.. Morrissey may have not had a chance and well did have this opportunity becasue of the Smiths.. Yes 2 out of 4 took tha lead and the other was Mr Morrissey a genius yes.Plus Johnny Marr does not deserves any negitivity..
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marisela
Junior Member
So if you heard Mike's side of the story and his feelings about the situation and taking into account that he is the same age as Johnny, would you completely forgive him too?
Jukebox Jury
I have forgiven Jesus*
PregnantForTheLastTime
Hideous trait.
I just want to know if you've ever actually listened to any Smiths songs. Because, I know there are people out there who avow a love for Morrissey but don't know what, or who, the Smiths were. That's chronologically possible, though it blows my mind.
Leaves you cold? Try listening again. Really. That was some good stuff.
Jukebox Jury
Retired
No, it's not important at all for me to discuss it. I was just curious to see if you would put the same theory as to why you now ''love'' Johnny into possibly ''loving'' Mike? Obviously not
I'd be curious to know who or where you heard both Johnny's and Mike's side of the story from that sold you on Johnny but not Mike?
Jukebox Jury
PS off to work, so look forward to the reply
Scarlet Ibis
The Chicken of D.C.
No, it's not important at all for me to discuss it. I was just curious to see if you would put the same theory as to why you now ''love'' Johnny into possibly ''loving'' Mike? Obviously not
I'd be curious to know who or where you heard both Johnny's and Mike's side of the story from that sold you on Johnny but not Mike?
Jukebox Jury
PS off to work, so look forward to the reply
You are assuming a lot. I will not answer those questions in public, but they're not the answers you're betting on. Your "obviously not" is wrong as well.
How about this: I invite you to tell YOUR tale in public.
Don't assume you're the only one, JJ. It's unusual, but it's not that unusual.
EDIT: Actually, you know what? I won't even discuss this with you privately. I don't know what came over me for a moment. Of course you like Mike. You two are very similar types.
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And you're the one defending Courtney Love playing a rock show with a teleprompter?
You're completely daft.
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Helen
Member
Johnny = awesome. I don't care what he sounds like in interviews, I think he's an amazing guitarist and songwriter. He might not have produced anything particularly amazing post-Smiths (although if you give it a listen it's not disappointing - I quite like Electronic's Raise the Pressure) but it doesn't mean his Smiths work is somehow negated.
Besides which I think the person who started this thread wanted to get a rise out of people. The "I hate Morrissey" threads have been done to death, so it's time to do another "I hate Johnny" thread (I assume it's been done before... I'm not a cynic for nothing).
And... who cares how they ended The Smiths? It's their choice. None of us really know what went on, despite what some might claim. It's personal and it's their business. We got to hear some fabulous music and we should be grateful for what we heard.
Besides which I think the person who started this thread wanted to get a rise out of people. The "I hate Morrissey" threads have been done to death, so it's time to do another "I hate Johnny" thread (I assume it's been done before... I'm not a cynic for nothing).
And... who cares how they ended The Smiths? It's their choice. None of us really know what went on, despite what some might claim. It's personal and it's their business. We got to hear some fabulous music and we should be grateful for what we heard.
cornelius blaze
Boychild mustn't tremble!
I always liked his style
and his record collection:
If it wasn't for Marr, sicknote steven would be still jerking off to pictures of James Dean and Joyce would be a pauper
someofusisturningnasty
Expired
You sound as dull as you claim Johnny to be...yawn.
Without Johnny, there would've been no Smiths.
Worm
Taste the diffidence
Marr Speaks, 1987
There is nothing even approaching 'acrimony' between myself and the other members of the band. I've known them all a long time and I love 'em.
The stuff we've just done for the new album is great, the best we've ever done. I'm really proud of it. But there are things that I want to do that can only happen outside of The Smiths.
One potential source of acrimony yet to emerge from the split is the use of the name "The Smiths". Marr was genuinely surprised when informed that Morrissey intended to continue using it, but contented himself, when pressed for a response, with "I think that's probably tied up in a whole load of legal things..."
I don't want to get too over-emotional about this but I really am massively proud of all the things that The Smiths have done and achieved and so from that point of view, of course, it's all really sad, especially for the group's fans who've always been brilliant. But on the other hand, I'm looking forward to doing new things, and to hearing what Morrissey will come up with. I think the change will actually do him a lot of good. I certainly hope so. But, in the final analysis, the thing that used to make me happy was making me miserable and so I just had to get out.
The stuff we've just done for the new album is great, the best we've ever done. I'm really proud of it. But there are things that I want to do that can only happen outside of The Smiths.
One potential source of acrimony yet to emerge from the split is the use of the name "The Smiths". Marr was genuinely surprised when informed that Morrissey intended to continue using it, but contented himself, when pressed for a response, with "I think that's probably tied up in a whole load of legal things..."
I don't want to get too over-emotional about this but I really am massively proud of all the things that The Smiths have done and achieved and so from that point of view, of course, it's all really sad, especially for the group's fans who've always been brilliant. But on the other hand, I'm looking forward to doing new things, and to hearing what Morrissey will come up with. I think the change will actually do him a lot of good. I certainly hope so. But, in the final analysis, the thing that used to make me happy was making me miserable and so I just had to get out.
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