How low will Democrats go? Forging documents! And the scumbuckets wonder why they're losing

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The political party that has embraced the debunked propaganda of Michael Moore-on, the scummy bullshit of Kitty Kelley, and blocking Ralph Nader from ballots is now trying to set a new low: Passing forged documents to their shillboy at CBS, Dan Rather, in an act of election-year desperation.

I've been following this story closing at www.powerlineblog.com since last Thursday.

By this weekend the case was closed amongst those on top of the story and the consensus of expert analysis. The CBS documents are forgeries.

And now the mainstream media is slowly catching up.

With the Washington Post article linked below - in which the expert CBS trotted out to defend their story is quoted as saying he DID NOT authenticate the documents - there are now exactly zero experts who will stand behind Rather's bullshit.

Therefore, with their Nixonian stonewalling, CBS is no longer an innocent victim of a hoax. They are accomplices to a fraud upon the American people that was designed to topple George Bush.

God only knows why CBS won't reveal their source of the forgeries, as there's no reason to protect a source once the source has committed a fraud upon the news organization. One must speculate that a news organization which is now officially a propaganda arm of the DNC is afraid to reveal its source because it would damage the Democratic Party in some way.

When forgeries against a sitting president are sent to CBS 2 months before an election, it is reasonable to conclude the forgeries were done by someone wanting Kerry to win. The American people deserve to know who this person is, what their agenda is, and how close they are connected to the Kerry comapaign.

How sad it is that the Democrats could not find a candidate who had anything to offer but bullshit and lies.

And now, in desperation, the Democrats can't even play by the rules. There has now been a crime committed.

I would like to remind John Kerry that, however tediously he is fixated on Vietnam, we are not in Vietnam. This is America, John, not Nam. And unlike Vietnam, there are rules here. This isn't the Free Fire Zone, John, where one could fire upon little boys and use a Zippo lighter to burn down villages (as you once did). Nope. This is an election in the United States of America, and forging documents to smear the sitting president is a crime.

While I do take some amount of glee in witnessing the downfall of CBS, Dan Rather, and the Kerry Campaign, I am also outraged at just how low the Bush haters are willing to go. As more level-headed Kerry backer Don Imus stated on his program yesterday morning, it has been downright DISTURBING to see the people who are completely consumed with hatred for Bush for the past couple years.

And when they wonder why they lost the election, they can look in the mirror.
Kerry is unfit for command, but the moronic and hateful moveon.org/Michael Moore-on culture on the left are unfit for civilized, democratic society.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A18982-2004Sep13?language=printer
 
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sing me to sleep

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Why is Loafing Oaf such a boring person? Will he ever change??
 
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Kerryfor Prez

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fantastic post

god bless bush!

The political party that has embraced the debunked propaganda of Michael
> Moore-on, the scummy bullshit of Kitty Kelley, and blocking Ralph Nader
> from ballots is now trying to set a new low: Passing forged documents to
> their shillboy at CBS, Dan Rather, in an act of election-year desperation.

> I've been following this story closing at www.powerlineblog.com since
> last Thursday.

> By this weekend the case was closed amongst those on top of the story and
> the consensus of expert analysis. The CBS documents are forgeries.

> And now the mainstream media is slowly catching up.

> With the Washington Post article linked below - in which the expert CBS
> trotted out to defend their story is quoted as saying he DID NOT
> authenticate the documents - there are now exactly zero experts who will
> stand behind Rather's bullshit.

> Therefore, with their Nixonian stonewalling, CBS is no longer an innocent
> victim of a hoax. They are accomplices to a fraud upon the American people
> that was designed to topple George Bush.

> God only knows why CBS won't reveal their source of the forgeries, as
> there's no reason to protect a source once the source has committed a
> fraud upon the news organization. One must speculate that a news
> organization which is now officially a propaganda arm of the DNC is afraid
> to reveal its source because it would damage the Democratic Party in some
> way.

> When forgeries against a sitting president are sent to CBS 2 months before
> an election, it is reasonable to conclude the forgeries were done by
> someone wanting Kerry to win. The American people deserve to know who this
> person is, what their agenda is, and how close they are connected to the
> Kerry comapaign.

> How sad it is that the Democrats could not find a candidate who had
> anything to offer but bullshit and lies.

> And now, in desperation, the Democrats can't even play by the rules. There
> has now been a crime committed.

> I would like to remind John Kerry that, however tediously he is fixated on
> Vietnam, we are not in Vietnam. This is America, John, not Nam. And unlike
> Vietnam, there are rules here. This isn't the Free Fire Zone, John, where
> one could fire upon little boys and use a Zippo lighter to burn down
> villages (as you once did). Nope. This is an election in the United States
> of America, and forging documents to smear the sitting president is a
> crime.

> While I do take some amount of glee in witnessing the downfall of CBS, Dan
> Rather, and the Kerry Campaign, I am also outraged at just how low the
> Bush haters are willing to go. As more level-headed Kerry backer Don Imus
> stated on his program yesterday morning, it has been downright DISTURBING
> to see the people who are completely consumed with hatred for Bush for the
> past couple years.

> And when they wonder why they lost the election, they can look in the
> mirror.
> Kerry is unfit for command, but the moronic and hateful moveon.org/Michael
> Moore-on culture on the left are unfit for civilized, democratic society.

>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A18982-2004Sep13?language=printer
 
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Auntie T.

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Wow... how intellectual... Bush doesn't stand a chance against retorts like that!
 
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Republican Party Reptile

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To a leftist, if you object to forged documents to smear a president, you're "filth"

I don't remember inviting you to my threads.
 
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Republican Party Reptile

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> fantastic post

> god bless bush!

It's obvious orchestration when these forged documents fall in Dan Rather's lap on exactly the week the KErry campaign wanted to launch Operation Fortunate Son.

If these forgeries can be traced back to the Kerry camp, this has the potential of being one of the biggest scandals of the year.

And that might be why Dan Rather is stonewalling even though the documents are now proven to be forged.

We shall see how it plays out.

Whatever the case, it certainly isn't helping Kerry get his great policy ideas to the American people. Oh yeah, I forgot, he doesn't have any ideas.
 
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Republican Party Reptile

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The fever-swamp left has hijacked the democratic party, and that's why they're losing

So sad to see the party of JFK being hijacked by the lunatic fringe. And so typical of the left wing to think their cause is so important that forging documents to influence an election is acceptable. There's a long and bloody history of the fringe left believing the ends justify the means.
 
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Republican Party Reptile

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Re: Why is Loafing Oaf such a boring person? Will he ever change??

If I'm anything like Loafing Oaf, you should figure I don't care what people think of me. Stay out of my threads if you dislike them. Defeat me on points if you fancy yourself able.

Are you that muslim Morrissey fan? You should not take offense when I speak of barbarians, as that language only applies to the barbarians of Islam, the fundamentalist jihadists. I did take note of the muslim group who apologized for 9/11 over the weekend.

I've never been able to work out what percentage of Islam the barbarian savages are (I try to believe it's the minority), but it's not my fault your religion is hijacked by lunatics. Perhaps you should do something about that?
 
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MMFA

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The cockroach scurries out again.

The case is not closed. Most of the arguments for the authenticity of the documents can be backed up. The Microsoft Word arguments, for example, are silly, as IBM typewriters of that era were capable of all the formatting elements which are claimed to be PC-only.

That said, it's easy to be suspicious of the document. However, you make a typical leap by linking the Democrats to this forgery, if indeed it is such. The Democrats are not known for this kind of tactic-- if anything, and all sides pretty much agree on this, the Democrats are spineless also-rans. This tactic smacks of Republicanism all the way. Some Democrats have suggested the intriguing idea that the document *is* a forgery-- planted by the Republicans. Now *that* sounds more plausible than anything.

But there is nothing to indicate that Kerry/Edwards '04 had anything to do with this. And if you want to criticize Democrats for jumping on this to attack Bush, can you really blame them after the Swift Boat Veterans fiasco?

The larger point here is that while Bush might needs his Swift Boat Veterans For Truth to smear Kerry, Kerry doesn't need to smear Bush with this garbage, whether he initiates the smear campaign himself or merely tries to profit from the malfeasance of others. The worst, most despicable forgery was perpetrated on the American people in the form of W.M.Ds-- remember those? They were the reason behind our invasion of Iraq before you started watching FOX and realized we were actually liberating an entire nation in the name of democracy. Laugh. Out. Loud.

The larger point is that you, like all Republicans, are making a joke of our national debate. Without the Swift Boat Veterans I sincerely doubt this document, real or not, surfaces. I doubt the media would be fixated on Kerry's "flip-flopping" without FOX News and the rest. I doubt we'd all be cowering in fear over pronouncements by the Vice President that we'll die if we elect John Kerry.

You people bring up the stupidest shit, just like you did with Gore-- casual clothing, "inventing the Internet", "Love Story"-- to hide the fact that the Republicans can and will run this country into the ground. Skyrocketing deficits, dying U.S. troops in Iraq, foreign relations disasters, losing the "war on terra", severe rollbacks of social programs, the rise of the security state-- who cares about all that? They didn't have the superscript for "th" back in the Seventies! John Kerry's a windsurfer! Everything's a joke again thanks to Bush and his cronies. In that sense-- and only that sense-- Bush really can crow about "Mission Accomplished".

You prove that all the more forecefully by the fact that you only post on this board the most trivial, inane attacks against John Kerry. Like the rest of your party, you're strangely silent on the things that really matter. But I guess you don't have a lot of 'splaining to do when God chooses your man to lead us to Armageddon.
 
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Re: The cockroach scurries out again.

> The case is not closed. Most of the arguments for the authenticity of the
> documents can be backed up. The Microsoft Word arguments, for example, are
> silly, as IBM typewriters of that era were capable of all the formatting
> elements which are claimed to be PC-only.

No they weren't. And the case is closed. Even three experts CBS themselves used have turned on the documents, saying they did not authenticate them, and even that they warned CBS of the problems they'd have if they ran with the documents. Also, an expert who has written books on Microsoft Word proved the impossibility of these documents being typed over the weekend, on a web site. This expert was quoted in the Washington Post yesterday.

You're too much a fool to ever digest truth when it's truth you dislike.

The left wing LA Times chimes in with this editorial:

"CBS News has been had. It's hard to reach any other conclusion about newly discovered documents that CBS and anchor Dan Rather are defending as revealing the truth about George W. Bush's military service.
Despite Rather's statement Monday that the network "believes the documents are authentic," the evidence keeps mounting that they are not. As The Times reported, conservative bloggers detected glaring inconsistencies, such as a Microsoft Word type style. So many other discrepancies have since emerged that it would require a willful suspension of disbelief to take them as merely coincidental."

Willful suspension of disbelief. That would be you. These documents were proven forgeries by Saturday to those following the story closelt, and now the mainstream media is catching up.
ABC News has proven they are a respectable news organization, unlike the disgraced CBS.

> That said, it's easy to be suspicious of the document. However, you make a
> typical leap by linking the Democrats to this forgery, if indeed it is
> such.

Again, they are proven forgeries. I was only speculating as to why Dan Rather is stonewalling in the face of the proof he was duped. And speculating as to who might like to forge these documents 2 months before an election. It was certainbly someone who wants Bush to lose the election, and however closely they are tied to the Kerry campaign has yet to be discovered. All I want is to know who the source was, what their agenda is, and what, if any, ties they have to political parties. We also now know, thanks to ABC, that Dan Dather ran with forged documents even though some of his own experts warned him about them. Dan Rather is a Democrat, and he is no longer an innocent victim in this fraud upon the American people.

The rest of your message is too idiotic to bother with.

You have no interest in truth.
 
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Republican Party Reptile

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Lets take another look at MMFA's post titled "The cockroach scurries out again."

This is regarding the CBS scandal.

Boy, MMFA, you sure called that one right, eh? (sarcasm...)

> The case is not closed. Most of the arguments for the authenticity of the
> documents can be backed up. The Microsoft Word arguments, for example, are
> silly, as IBM typewriters of that era were capable of all the formatting
> elements which are claimed to be PC-only.

> That said, it's easy to be suspicious of the document. However, you make a
> typical leap by linking the Democrats to this forgery, if indeed it is
> such. The Democrats are not known for this kind of tactic-- if anything,
> and all sides pretty much agree on this, the Democrats are spineless
> also-rans. This tactic smacks of Republicanism all the way. Some Democrats
> have suggested the intriguing idea that the document *is* a forgery--
> planted by the Republicans. Now *that* sounds more plausible than
> anything.
 
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seriously flawed-not right in the head

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Re: Lets take another look at MMFA's post titled "The cockroach scurries out again."

> This is regarding the CBS scandal.

> Boy, MMFA, you sure called that one right, eh? (sarcasm...)

Why do you feel the need to post all this political crap on here?
We don't use it for a political forum in Britain.
Surely there must be an appropriate site for this garbage.
 
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Republican Party Reptile

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Re: Lets take another look at MMFA's post titled "The cockroach scurries out again."

> Why do you feel the need to post all this political crap on here?
> We don't use it for a political forum in Britain.
> Surely there must be an appropriate site for this garbage.

I enjoy pointing out when certain people are wrong.

MMFA is a weathervane. Whatever he says, the opposite is true. Take it to the bank.
 
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seriously flawed-not right in the head

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Re: Lets take another look at MMFA's post titled "The cockroach scurries out again."

> I enjoy pointing out when certain people are wrong.

> MMFA is a weathervane. Whatever he says, the opposite is true. Take it to
> the bank.

Sorry, don't comprehend the American lingo, what does "Take it to the Bank" mean exactly?
 
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> The political party that has embraced the debunked propaganda of Michael
> Moore-on, the scummy bullshit of Kitty Kelley, and blocking Ralph Nader
> from ballots is now trying to set a new low: Passing forged documents to
> their shillboy at CBS, Dan Rather, in an act of election-year desperation.

> I've been following this story closing at www.powerlineblog.com since
> last Thursday.

> By this weekend the case was closed amongst those on top of the story and
> the consensus of expert analysis. The CBS documents are forgeries.

> And now the mainstream media is slowly catching up.

> With the Washington Post article linked below - in which the expert CBS
> trotted out to defend their story is quoted as saying he DID NOT
> authenticate the documents - there are now exactly zero experts who will
> stand behind Rather's bullshit.

> Therefore, with their Nixonian stonewalling, CBS is no longer an innocent
> victim of a hoax. They are accomplices to a fraud upon the American people
> that was designed to topple George Bush.

> God only knows why CBS won't reveal their source of the forgeries, as
> there's no reason to protect a source once the source has committed a
> fraud upon the news organization. One must speculate that a news
> organization which is now officially a propaganda arm of the DNC is afraid
> to reveal its source because it would damage the Democratic Party in some
> way.

> When forgeries against a sitting president are sent to CBS 2 months before
> an election, it is reasonable to conclude the forgeries were done by
> someone wanting Kerry to win. The American people deserve to know who this
> person is, what their agenda is, and how close they are connected to the
> Kerry comapaign.

> How sad it is that the Democrats could not find a candidate who had
> anything to offer but bullshit and lies.

> And now, in desperation, the Democrats can't even play by the rules. There
> has now been a crime committed.

> I would like to remind John Kerry that, however tediously he is fixated on
> Vietnam, we are not in Vietnam. This is America, John, not Nam. And unlike
> Vietnam, there are rules here. This isn't the Free Fire Zone, John, where
> one could fire upon little boys and use a Zippo lighter to burn down
> villages (as you once did). Nope. This is an election in the United States
> of America, and forging documents to smear the sitting president is a
> crime.

> While I do take some amount of glee in witnessing the downfall of CBS, Dan
> Rather, and the Kerry Campaign, I am also outraged at just how low the
> Bush haters are willing to go. As more level-headed Kerry backer Don Imus
> stated on his program yesterday morning, it has been downright DISTURBING
> to see the people who are completely consumed with hatred for Bush for the
> past couple years.

> And when they wonder why they lost the election, they can look in the
> mirror.
> Kerry is unfit for command, but the moronic and hateful moveon.org/Michael
> Moore-on culture on the left are unfit for civilized, democratic society.

>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A18982-2004Sep13?language=printer
 
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