Re: Harvest Ends Contract with Morrissey - TTY
Moontastic with the name there, buddy. Seeya in 20 minutes.
Moontastic with the name there, buddy. Seeya in 20 minutes.
I've told this story before, but I think it still very much applies to Morrissey. When Leonard Cohen dropped the finished tapes to his Various Positions album the record label refused to release it. Cohen demanded a meeting with the CEO to get some answers, and was told "Leonard, we know you're great. We just aren't sure if you're any good." That's where Morrissey finds himself, and has done for a decade or more. His reputation goes before him.
If this was a traditional record deal, which is what Morrissey was looking for, doesn't that mean that every penny of expenditure is met by the artist and recouped through sales? Perhaps Morrissey didn't want to end up paying for all the bells and whistles, for the physical singles, and huge promotional outlay. A single piece of poorly photoshopped artwork for the entire project seems strange in itself.
I still don't think even Morrissey himself was fully behind this album. It's a brave record, and an interesting record, but it isn't a great record. You can create a brave, interesting and great record: Kevin Rowland's My Beauty falls into that category for me and still sold extremely poorly, but World Peace, sadly, just didn't click.
As I've said from the beginning, after his dreadful self-created PR disasters he needed something absolutely top drawer to bring in not only new listeners, but many old fans who had become disillusioned by his shenanigans.
There will be a lot of people busy putting lipstick on a pig in this thread, but this was not a problem created by Harvest in the last six months. It is the culmination of poor songwriting, poor luck and poor judgement over many years which can be laid wholly at the feet of Morrissey himself.
There are some absolutely delusional people on this site.
The lack of physical material, radio play, television appearances and interviews can hardly be attributed to the *publicly* unsuccessful nature of this album, its all fan service in this day and age.
In the 80s, 90s and early 2000s? yes all those played a crucial part, but not now they play a very minimal role *in most cases*.
To be honest, this is an album for Morrissey fans, it doesnt have the capacity to win over a plethora of new fans or reintroduce old fans like YATQ.
At an enormodome near you in 2015:
At an enormodome near you in 2015:
rubbish the album isn't the problem. It was excellent
Disappointing but honestly I don't blame them. Fair enough they didn't put a lot of effort into the promotion but Morrissey contributed almost zero to it. Morrissey didn't even use illness as an excuse. He said he had no offers of promotion from anyone else. He blames the label and he blames media for not handing him promotions on a plate. f*** if I had his work ethic I'd have been sacked from every job I'd ever done. And that's basically what this is, sacking.
That's a brilliant picture, excellent work; but it kind of brings it home to me how sad it would be to see them all reform.
Looking at that just does not fill me with anticipation or excitement, just a kind of sadness at the passing of time.
I don't want to listen to Smiths albums and be reminded of the time they reformed and they all looked really old and uncomfortable around each other and Morrissey said some terrible things about the others and it all ended acrimoniously again and all we got was some not-as-good-as-they-used-to-be performances of the old songs and the cynical aftertaste of people you once looked up to doing absolutely the wrong thing purely for monetary gain....
This is so dissapointing. I couldn't help but give out a big sigh when reading the title of this thread. I adore this new album and It was so exciting, knowing there was another one on the horizon.
Perhaps the critical acclaim and chart success of WPINOYB will help this time around. But with the last 2 record label searches taking 7 and 5 years. I can't help but fear for another long torturous wait.
It's surly time all of us fans set up a label. I think by now we all know enough about morrissey, what he likes, what he expects from a record company. I'm sure we could keep him happy and signed up on a permanent basis for say a 10 album contract.
hmmmmm so why does Miley Cyrus bother with those things then if they have no impact?
Does all this affect the value of my collection of Morrissey memorabilia?
Although I like the sentiment, it's morrissey's job to keep me happy, not the other way around. I'm the one spending my money, he the entertainer, the hired.
Although I like the sentiment, it's morrissey's job to keep me happy, not the other way around. I'm the one spending my money, he the entertainer, the hired.
This has to be one of the stupidest statements yet. Unless it's a joke. Is it a joke? If it is I apologise. If not try growing up.
I've told this story before, but I think it still very much applies to Morrissey. When Leonard Cohen dropped the finished tapes to his Various Positions album the record label refused to release it. Cohen demanded a meeting with the CEO to get some answers, and was told "Leonard, we know you're great. We just aren't sure if you're any good." That's where Morrissey finds himself, and has done for a decade or more. His reputation goes before him.
If this was a traditional record deal, which is what Morrissey was looking for, doesn't that mean that every penny of expenditure is met by the artist and recouped through sales? Perhaps Morrissey didn't want to end up paying for all the bells and whistles, for the physical singles, and huge promotional outlay. A single piece of poorly photoshopped artwork for the entire project seems strange in itself.
I still don't think even Morrissey himself was fully behind this album. It's a brave record, and an interesting record, but it isn't a great record. You can create a brave, interesting and great record: Kevin Rowland's My Beauty falls into that category for me and still sold extremely poorly, but World Peace, sadly, just didn't click.
As I've said from the beginning, after his dreadful self-created PR disasters he needed something absolutely top drawer to bring in not only new listeners, but many old fans who had become disillusioned by his shenanigans.
There will be a lot of people busy putting lipstick on a pig in this thread, but this was not a problem created by Harvest in the last six months. It is the culmination of poor songwriting, poor luck and poor judgement over many years which can be laid wholly at the feet of Morrissey himself.
More wisdom from the oracle... yawn.