Morrissey owes you nothing, he did not force you to spend any money on his music.
Your choice, take it or leave it.
If the criterion for commercial success was it was excellent he would still be with Harvest. Instead its excellence is purely subjective, while its success is measured, very precisely, in Pounds Sterling.
Err i don't think you can compare the marketing tactics of a former teen pop star who has automatic radio play and can sell out an arena with little to no effort to that of Morrissey but nice try.
Yes you are quite right. When he disappears, he will have his own life. I willingly purchased his music because he made himself for sale, so I bought him. If you didn't see in the quote that was included in my post. It referenced somehow I as a fan, can make morrissey to be more happy and produce music. Sorry if you misread and did not understand my post. FYI, I'm not forced to do anything for morrissey. I bet morrissey is though, that's why he keeps getting dropped, and that was the essence of the post. His job, not mine
rubbish the album isn't the problem. It was excellent
I agree...I think Morrissey did his best....toured, prior to the release. At the show that I attended in Florida HE promoted the album and did some songs off of the album. Unfortunately he got sick before the release and I think that knocked the wind out of his sails.... (sales).
He did some great, "artistic" videos with Pam and Nancy. That might be the problem, really. Morrissey is an Artist...not just a pop star. To expect a real artist to hit the top of the pops is just a little too much.....I think.
Morrissey told one of band members that this album was a "Monster".
It really is.....but it's a Morrissey monster for people that get what Morrissey is all about and aren't afraid to listen to songs about aspects of of life that many find unsettling.
I've told this story before, but I think it still very much applies to Morrissey. When Leonard Cohen dropped the finished tapes to his Various Positions album the record label refused to release it. Cohen demanded a meeting with the CEO to get some answers, and was told "Leonard, we know you're great. We just aren't sure if you're any good." That's where Morrissey finds himself, and has done for a decade or more. His reputation goes before him.
If this was a traditional record deal, which is what Morrissey was looking for, doesn't that mean that every penny of expenditure is met by the artist and recouped through sales? Perhaps Morrissey didn't want to end up paying for all the bells and whistles, for the physical singles, and huge promotional outlay. A single piece of poorly photoshopped artwork for the entire project seems strange in itself.
I still don't think even Morrissey himself was fully behind this album. It's a brave record, and an interesting record, but it isn't a great record. You can create a brave, interesting and great record: Kevin Rowland's My Beauty falls into that category for me and still sold extremely poorly, but World Peace, sadly, just didn't click.
As I've said from the beginning, after his dreadful self-created PR disasters he needed something absolutely top drawer to bring in not only new listeners, but many old fans who had become disillusioned by his shenanigans.
There will be a lot of people busy putting lipstick on a pig in this thread, but this was not a problem created by Harvest in the last six months. It is the culmination of poor songwriting, poor luck and poor judgement over many years which can be laid wholly at the feet of Morrissey himself.
Before Moz finally signed to Harvest am I right in thinking there was interest from other labels but for whatever reason terms couldn't be agreed. Or was it just Harvest. I'm clinging to the hope that Moz seems to have enjoyed making this album so much that he might be a bit more agreeable this time round.
Also if Moz signed a 2 album deal doesn't that contract have to be fulfilled? Or does that not apply if it's the label who wants out?
I remember Moz talking about the release of Viva Hate and the reason it was released so quickly after the split was because The Smiths had signed a 2 album contract with EMI and even though the band had split up they still expected a second album after Srangeways.
Something tells me based on history that in true Moz fashion we will be getting a statement in the near future explaining some kind of breach of contract by harvest and that a law suite is being filed by team Moz.