Harvest ends contract with Morrissey - TTY

Re: Harvest Ends Contract with Morrissey - TTY

Moontastic with the name there, buddy. Seeya in 20 minutes.

 

[Anonymous]

I didn't mean that I thought Peart was the best drummer in the world. That's what those two hippies seem to think.
And, yes, Bonham f***ing ROCKS, dude!!!!

I like some Zeppelin, but I find a lot of it to be cock rock. However, watching live performances of Zeppelin with Jimmy going off on a tangent, Bonham was simply amazing. He always knew what Jimmy was going to do next.

 

[marred]

Simon Gallup didn't even join the band until their second album, and was absent for everything released between Pornography and Head on the Door.

So yeah, that's exactly what I meant by "Robert Smith is the only constant, and the only original member. Everyone else has come and gone (and come again) over the years." That's not debatable!

If they want to get into Cure band line up contest I'm your man. The Top was one strange line up alright. Simon out, Porl back in, Lol stays, 2 new guys in for one album and then out again before the head hits the door on their way out. Yes this is very off topic but geez I love The Top! It was the seed for the exotic sound of Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me. Cross pollinated with the Head On The Door made for my all time favourite Cure album.

 

[Chickpea]

If they want to get into Cure band line up contest I'm your man. The Top was one strange line up alright. Simon out, Porl back in, Lol stays, 2 new guys in for one album and then out again before the head hits the door on their way out.

Discussing various Cure lineups is one of my favorite pastimes. I'll go make a thread…

 

[marred]

Discussing various Cure lineups is one of my favorite pastimes. I'll go make a thread…

and I'll weave a basket.

 

[Anonymous]

Why has this thead developed into a pointless argument about drummers? If you are that interested, piss off and listen to Mike Joyce's latest #1 hit solo album 'I Don't Bang Wimmen, I'm Too Busy Bangin' ma Drumz', or something. It's getting kinda boring.

 

[MozRecording]

Why has this thead developed into a pointless argument about drummers? If you are that interested, piss off and listen to Mike Joyce's latest #1 hit solo album 'I Don't Bang Wimmen, I'm Too Busy Bangin' ma Drumz', or something. It's getting kinda boring.

Because Smiths.

 

[Orson Swells]

Why has this thead developed into a pointless argument about drummers? If you are that interested, piss off and listen to Mike Joyce's latest #1 hit solo album 'I Don't Bang Wimmen, I'm Too Busy Bangin' ma Drumz', or something. It's getting kinda boring.

I don't know. They're as replaceable as lawnmower parts. Or so some judges say.

 

[whitechapelhighstreet]

If The Smiths reform, I will destroy all of their recordings. It will be the final insult from Mr. Morrissey, who has seemingly descended into self parody, bitterness and spite. Waiting out his tax year in Switzerland … I suppose paying taxes are beneath him. So much for your working class credentials Mozza - we your (once) fans and 'poor little fools'.

 

[Anonymous - DS]

Totally different. The entire lineup of the Cure has changed numerous times—it's different on almost every album! Robert Smith is the only constant, and the only original member. Everyone else has come and gone (and come again) over the years. They're a completely different kind of band.

The Smiths were four people, period, and only for a very brief period of time.

Actually, as others have pointed out, Andy and Mike were not the original bassist and drummer. True, they were on board before the first record release, but still...

I still say "the Smiths" could be "the Smiths" without Joyce. Just because he lasted to Strangeways does not mean he would have all the way up until now if the band had stayed together. If Joyce had gotten sacked in 1986 or 87, would you then be ok with a Smiths reunion without Joyce?

Why do other bands have the right to change personal but not the Smiths? I don't buy that. The Cure was just one example off the top of my head. Right now New Order is New Order without Peter Hook, even though Hook was an original member.

I'm not trying to be argumentative or downplay the importance of drumming; I just really have a hard time agreeing with the idea that Mozzer, Marr, and Roarke couldn't reunite as "the Smiths" if they wanted to just because Joyce wasn't there.

And I'm not even saying they should do it or that if I want them to do it. What I AM saying is IF Moz, Marr (and possibly Roarke) want to reuinite as "the Smiths", they shouldn't let the lack of Joyce be the reason not to do it.

DS

 

[Chickpea]

Actually, as others have pointed out, Andy and Mike were not the original bassist and drummer. True, they were on board before the first record release, but still...

Fair enough, and that is a good point. I was indeed referring to the musicians who were members of the Smiths during the time they were recording and releasing albums. And yes, by that definition I suppose I would have to include Gannon, but I truly believe that to 98% of people who know are familiar with the Smiths, that name means four people: Morrissey, Marr, Rourke, Joyce.

If Joyce had gotten sacked in 1986 or 87, would you then be ok with a Smiths reunion without Joyce?

Well, I'm not in favor of a Smiths reunion at all, but the thought of Morrissey, Marr and Rourke on stage with a TBD drummer calling themselves the Smiths leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.

Why do other bands have the right to change personal but not the Smiths? I don't buy that. The Cure was just one example off the top of my head. Right now New Order is New Order without Peter Hook, even though Hook was an original member.

Well, there are whole lot of New Order fans who would intensely disagree with that statement! That's actually a huge source of controversy within the hardcore NO fanbase, and his absence has been very divisive. Speaking only for myself, though, I think part of the difference is that the Smiths' tenure was so brief. New Order (to use your example) have been playing together off and on for nearly 35 years—even longer if you go back to Joy Division. There's some irony in the fact that longevity tends to make everything seem a little less precious. The fact that the Smiths only existed for five years makes the group a protected jewel (a bit like Joy Division, actually). Irrational, maybe, but I think that's why a lot of people feel the way I do.

 

[modrevolve]

If the Stone Roses had reunited without Reni a few years ago, I would not have considered it a reunion.

 

[Anonymous]

If The Smiths reform, I will destroy all of their recordings. It will be the final insult from Mr. Morrissey, who has seemingly descended into self parody, bitterness and spite. Waiting out his tax year in Switzerland … I suppose paying taxes are beneath him. So much for your working class credentials Mozza - we your (once) fans and 'poor little fools'.

He still pays taxes wherever he earns income, so touring in the US, UK is taxed. He has a house there because it's beautiful.

 

[Anonymous]

What a waste of screen space. They will NOT be reforming under ANY circumstances. All this crap-minded speculation is pointless. A hateful online creche is too mild a description for this place.

A deluded hateful online crèche. Plus some serious BS that they don't censor positive posts. They do if they're in response to Barleycorn, Skylarker or Viva Hate.

 

[Anonymous]

I'm still confused why a Smiths reunion would be so bad. Sure, the bank, but also my god, the publicity. The guy's had almost 5 straight years of awful pub, to the point even his biggest fans in the media are sorta snarking at him at this point. Harvest wanted to sell the record Moz, really they did, but you sat all alone at home with your drunken missives, complaining up a storm that no one really wants to hear anymore. Do the whiz-bang tour with Marr, & can you imagine when the noobs understand that Morrissey was the Robert Plant of his day (in terms of "PLEASE get back with your band, 'O legendary singer!"), the pub for any new novel will be off-the-charts. And hey, his back catalogue, all primed with its new covers (cringe) will fly off the shelves/streams too. There's literally no downside, however, I sense Marr was primed to do it 2-3 years ago, & he's sick of waiting...i.e., Moz f*cked up yet another chance.

I wasn't commenting on why it would be bad, I was reiterating what Morrissey has said -- he doesn't need it or want it.

 

[Chip]

Discussing various Cure lineups is one of my favorite pastimes. I'll go make a thread…

If we are going to go off topic about The Cure (which we might as well at this point) can I just chime in that I think Pornography was there best work.

OK, maybe I like Boys Don't Cry the very best as it does not sound as dated as Pornography.

 

[Anonymous]

Few people here would have f***ed up as consistently as Morrissey has over the last few years.

The only hilarious part of this latest car crash is you and a very few others are spinning it as some sort of intentional master-plan.

Few people here would think they're saving the world from Morrissey.

 

[Anonymous]

And don't you wish you were part of it eh?

The answer to that would be "No" because you are not kind to other fans.You pretend to be but you are not . Including the person you initially got the blue rose idea from. Strangely that person is not a part of your little clique of douchebags. That's REAL KIND. That person never once went out of their way to seek attention in the stupid manner that you have and then on top of that you were rude to her an anything you did say was not true.

 

[Chip]

Few people here would think they're saving the world from Morrissey.

Actually, we have quite a few of those types.

 

[King Leer]

Your taste is in your a**

Rush are hideous shit btw that absolutely no one of sound mind should be proud of appreciating.
I mean ffs!!!

 

[King Leer]

What would Morrissey's stage introduction for Joyce even be?

"And on drums, a man I once wished dead. And still do…"