Guardian has been refused copy of "California Son" for review

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Whizz Kid, May 17, 2019.

By Whizz Kid on May 17, 2019 at 5:10 PM
  1. Whizz Kid

    Whizz Kid Active Member

    Apr 1, 2019

    Might be tricky to review the new Morrissey album. Been refused a copy because we wrote this piece about him. "Afraid management are not keen to provide advance music to the Guardian for this release".
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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Whizz Kid, May 17, 2019.

    1. Ketamine Sun
      Ketamine Sun
      ‘The lyrical content is what’s important, and these arnt even his songs, so what’s the point.’

      Don’t know ‘bout that. It seems some of the songs have been chosen to reflect his present state of being.
    2. The Truth
      The Truth
      Print this out and stick it to your mirror. It can be your daily affirmation.
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    3. The Truth
      The Truth
      Is this what you chat about on the cul-de-sac?
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    4. Gregor Samsa
      Gregor Samsa
      I’m pretty sure they get to hear about it elsewhere. However, I’m not big on banning newspapers.
    5. The Truth
      The Truth
      Morrissey has done some great covers. I haven't heard all of these but I'm not really getting the point yet. If they were all of the calibre of "Song From Under The Floorboards" and "No One Can Hold A Candle To You" he'd have a great record but I did not really get his Waylon Jennings and Lynn Anderson covers.
      I think the problem is lack of faith at this point. It could be a carefully chosen selection of songs he has chosen to interpret or it could be that he's had such problems with record labels that writing and recording a record of new original material seems like it might not be worth the effort.
      The one I've liked was the b-side that was actually written by him. These others kind of seem like an Eddie Arnold record.
    6. ForgivemeJESUS
      Not Peter.... its Pecker
    7. Surface
      No, not at all but this weekend is the Alderley Edge MayFair and I Reckon I can convince Peter to play here next year which will be fucking ace.
    8. Anonymous
      good on Morrissey's management for refusing to send them a promo.
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    9. nairng
      This is a very petty move by Moz - or his mgmt - probably Moz tho.

      Guardian run stories about him because their readership were his fans in the 80s.

      What difference does it make? It makes none
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    10. Verso
      Morrissey reminds me more of Donald Trump every day. It’s exhausting.
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    11. Nikita
      I guess it explains their silly review of the Broadway gigs.
    12. marred
      Caught your reflection in your phone did you? Don't be so hard on yourself.
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    13. clemmentine
      brilliant, i find that to be quite funny honestly, when they write about moz i end up quite bored anyway so maybe we’re better off without it
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    14. Anonymous
      I’m guessing he thinks that the review, even one with not one word written by him, will be two thirds of a critique of him with the album just an after thought. He might not be wrong. Why would he want to do that. I think it a personal issue as this affects him as a person and not the brand we see and talk about. Surface is right though, they do have a good circulation for a paper these days but this move will just be overlooked for those who want to say he’s all about money etc
    15. reelfountain
      Good circulation? Why does their website constantly beg for alms?
    16. RealAndProper
      It does make a difference. He's taking away their opportunity to make more money off him.

      They run stories about him because his name gets clicks. Whether this is because their readers were repressed Smiths apostles in the haties or otherwise, they write about him because he's a profitable subject.

      I applaud this decision, whoever made it.

      I never liked the idea of reviews anyway. It's just one person's opinion. These things are subjective. Listen to the album yourself if you're interested, and decide for yourself whether or not you like it.
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    17. reelfountain
      Very reasoned and indeed correct reply - which is very rare around here.
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    18. Gejo
      I can't see the point of The Guardian getting defensive for not having a copy of the album. What for? Independently of the album being good or bad, they're going to dilapidate him throwing bad critics anyway. They won't judge the album for its musical value, they will just use it as an excuse to slap Morrissey.
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    19. Ketamine Sun
      Ketamine Sun
      You didn’t get (enjoy?) the W Jennings and Anderson cover, I did very much.

      He may have lost faith in BMG, or thought it would be nice to just do a covers record, I’ve been hoping for one from him for quite a while.

      I’m sure he did carefully choose which songs to do, there are some strange song choices to me, especially the Carly Simon song.. those lyrics are either odd or just badly written, I can’t tell. The Dylan song was a nice surprise. Would have preferred a different Phil Ochs song, Phil has better songs, which is why I feel he chose certain songs for very personal or specific reasons.

      Really looking forward to the Buffy Saint Marie, Joni, Hardin,and Melanie song. And to hear the record as a whole.

      I also like the recent B-sides.
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    20. countthree
      I'm so happy by the release of Lady Willpower that I won't waste my time saying The Guardian should buy the albums they want to review. It doesn't seem to be a huge amount of money to spend in an album they seem to be interested in reviewing. Gifts are just that, they can't be demanded, they just should be appreciated when they are received.

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