Geoff Travis on the Morrissey of today

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By Famous when dead on Nov 16, 2019 at 11:52 AM
  1. Famous when dead

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    (Originally posted in the Strange/unexpected Moz references? thread)

    Rough around the edges: Former Smiths record label manager talks about his latest batch of Irish acts


    "The first question you must of course ask Geoff Travis is what he thinks of Morrissey’s ongoing descent into far-right notoriety. Back in 1980s Travis discovered The Smiths and, with his record label Rough Trade, helped propel Moz toward gladioli-flourishing immortality. How long ago that must seem — how bittersweet the memories.

    “Not bitter, no,” says Travis. “It was one of those periods that went by in a flash. Morrissey wasn’t the person he now seems to be. He was an interesting character to be around. As a band, The Smiths were an unstoppable force. A lot of years have gone by. I don’t think I’d recognise the Morrissey of today. It’s sad what he’s become, in terms of his views.”"


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/break...ut-his-latest-batch-of-irish-acts-963182.html

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    A brief Morrissey segue in to the article's title.
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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Famous when dead, Nov 16, 2019.

    1. Nerak
      Nerak
      I don't think he's physically or mentally well. He looks agitated & in pain. But he doesn't have anything else in his life apart from cats & songs, so on he goes.
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    2. ThePoliticalRevolution
      ThePoliticalRevolution

      Steve is my intellectual husband.
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    3. Uncleskinny
      Uncleskinny
      An example where the intention outweighs the factuality of the content.

      Fuck you to the moon and back, you piece of racist shit
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    4. Nerak
      Nerak
      I agree. Also I think Morrissey believes that his opinions are based on facts, so I think, if people could stop condemning him for five minutes, they could probably persuade him he was wrong about some of it.
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    5. marred
      marred
      I guess this might be the video you're referring to? I watched this a while ago. It was great wasn't it?

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    6. Nerak
      Nerak
      Fry's been cancelled many times, but always bounces back because he's more socially connected than Morrissey is. But the cancellation process is brutal & usually far nastier than the offense the person is being cancelled for.
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    7. Lujan
      Lujan
      Ey moderador yo cuando publico tengo q esperar como 1 dia para que aparezca lo que escribi..sera porque soy la unica q escribe en español, hacen diferencias por nacionalidad????
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    8. Nerak
      Nerak
      Anyone who thought he was morally superior was a bit delusional - what's great about him is his bleakness & nihilism, combined with yearning for something unattainably better. He's never lied - he's always said he's phobic about people & he's not right in the head. It's just now he's getting older & unwell & I think being alone is starting to get more unbearable.
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    9. Nerak
      Nerak
      Being stalked because I don't think Morrissey is evil on a Morrissey fan site is very weird. He's complicated, but I don't think he's nasty deliberately, or a racist. I think he has paranoias & needs more fun in his life.
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    10. ThePoliticalRevolution
      ThePoliticalRevolution
      What the fuck am I? Chopped liver?

      FUN is my First, Middle and Last name! Hullo!
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    11. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      I know someone, who knows someone, who knows Geoff Travis quite well
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    12. Lujan
      Lujan
      Sera cierto que esta tan solo??? El dice q es su eleccion ...pero en miles de fotos se lo ve de joda y acompañado ...porque todos dicen que esta enfermo?? Se de los problemas graves q tuvo hace 5 o 6 años,fueron serios problemas de salud, pero ahora no se ve mal esta gordito y mas viejo,pero lo primero tiene solucion ,deberia cambiar la dieta,,ya que la obesidad es u n factor de riesgo para muchas enfermedades,Moz seguira siempre, el escenario es casi todo para el,sino pudiera cantar no se que haria,,,
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    13. Lujan
      Lujan
      Ja ja que divina/ o la revolucion Capaz Moz te llama nunca se sabe jaaa no perderas las esperanzas ,los sueños a veces se hacen realidad ,si te casas ,invitame a la fiesta
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    14. gashonthenail
      gashonthenail
      So bored by all this nonsense. There is nothing more precious than the ability to say what you want to say. There should be no topic that is out of bounds. The average student campus has less freedom of speech and thought than North Korea. Comedy is next to impossible. What is ultimately so laughable is the idea that Moz will shut up because people say to him - you can't say that.
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    15. gordyboy9
      gordyboy9
      this is a guy who gave M a packet of biscuits because the smiths reached a high chart position,cheap bastard,other companies were giving their stars rolls royces in those days, no wonder M tore him apart in autobiog.Ms an easy target these days so expect many more of these articles.
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    16. Pokey
      Pokey
      Absolutely, plenty of what Morrissey says is eye rolling. Sometimes I feel like someone sitting down with him in the right manner could probably either change his mind on things, or, tease out a lot of the things he believes aren't as bad as he makes them seem .. but he loves sweeping statements and generalisations and sometimes you sit there thinking "god I know what you actually mean, but when you put it like that...". But most people don't look at it on a more critical level. It's black and white, he said this one thing in this one interview so we need 73 articles all feeding off each other calling him the devil, when only maybe 4 of those 73 authors actually read what they're talking about from the source, the rest just read from each other.

      Then of course you have some of the people here, who couldn't care less about what he is actually saying, it's just a chance to put the boot in. He could be talking about the dangers of global warming and the benefits of medicare for all and he'd be a dangerous leftie socialist nut job to them, because it isn't about the issues - it's about him.

      And in the end, people may ask why I continue to like him if I don't agree with a lot of his stated views - it's because I don't invest that much emotionally in him. I invest in his music and songs and that's about it. So really, half the people here who are clinically obsessed with hating him are absolutely shocking at controlling their own emotions. They have far bigger issues to worry about than what some dude with a good voice thinks.
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    17. FantiQ
      FantiQ
      What are these controversial views exactly? Are we allowed to ask?
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    18. snoddywilko
      snoddywilko
      I see you’re getting the same troll rating on every single post from Trill, just like I am. It doesn’t matter what I post - it could be me saying how much I like It’s Over, for example - you can guarantee I get the obligatory troll rating. It’s truly pathetic & pointless.

      I put Trill on ignore a while back so I don’t even get notified that he’s trolling me.

      I feel sorry for him. He’s clearly got issues.
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    19. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Dont be fooled Bazzer
      It's obviously not me. Not sure how you've got Glasgow either :eek:

      Benny-the-British-Butcher :greatbritain::knife:
    20. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Ah, chasing nazis again? That old chestnut. There’s help out there, you deluded fool.
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