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You really are not listening are you.Yes, but Rapp wasn't a victim. Moz starts off everything he says by stating that he doesn't think the allegation is credible. A victim is not someone who makes an allegation. Someone who makes an allegation is exactly that - someone making an allegation. If we go down the route of 'victims should always be believed' then we may as well throw out every principle of justice. The word victim has been weaponised. If you choose to continue to weaponise the word - that is your choice. Moz wasn't commenting on a victim of abuse. The only time he has commented on victims of abuse was to write a song suggesting that the perpetrators will be haunted for all eternity.
At the trial Spacey's lawyer argued that Rapp made up the allegation because he was a troubled 14 year old boy who clearly had no guardian looking after him as much as they should. That is what Moz is alluding to in the quote above - and how that was different from Moz's upbringing.
From the article below:
Spacey's lawyer, Jennifer Keller, said after the trial that the defense was "very grateful to the jury for seeing through these false allegations."
During closing arguments, she told jurors that Rapp made up the encounter and suggested reasons Rapp imagined the encounter with Spacey or made it up.
It was possible, she said, that Rapp invented it based on his experience performing in "Precious Sons," a play in which actor Ed Harris picks up Rapp's character and lays on top of him, mistaking him briefly for his wife before discovering it is his son.
She also suggested that Rapp later became jealous that Spacey became a megastar while Rapp had "smaller roles in small shows" after his breakthrough performance in Broadway's "Rent."
"So here we are today and Mr. Rapp is getting more attention from this trial than he has in his entire acting life," Keller said.
And guess what? The jury agreed with this.
No victim blaming involved.
It has nothing to do with retrospectively talking about the outcome of a civil battery case.
It has nothing to do with needing to believe everyone who claims they are a victim but it is about not dismissing without any evidence a claimant.
Morrissey's comment was before the case went to civil court, before the details from the defence and the prosecution was heard and his instant response was to state he didn't think it was true on the grounds a 14 year old boy would know what could happen if in a bedroom with an adult.
It is irrelevant that it is about Rapp or Spacey, it is the fact he dismissed the validity of the claimant on the grounds he gave.
It is victim blaming before the facts were known or the court case had even taken place and you too are victim blaming when you have said that Rapp probably lied about his age to Spacey when that is just not a fact and was never raised by Spacey's legal team.
The reason that 98% of abuse and rape cases fail to secure convictions is because the victim starts off from a position of not being believed which is different in how people and the courts treat other crimes. The majority of victims are found to be guilty of being dishonest or from putting themselves in a situation with an adult when they shouldn't' have, or from wearing provocative clothes etc etc. The claimant isn't on trial but in many instances people convict them before any case goes to court.