Forget the hate. Watch this and remember He is this person. Still. And always

I’m not so sure. But of course he has experienced lots of joy etc. But I think the darkness has been the dominating force and that is why he now seems colder, more cynical, more crass and whatnot. It takes its toll.


Then happiness and success takes its toll also.


Fortunately/unfortunately, even on his best days it’s always seemed part of his nature to focus on what can be perceived as the negative.

He may only be showing that part of himself publicly more these days, while keeping the rest private? For as I perceive it, as he’s gotten older, he’s become a little more withdrawn, it could be his way of dealing with the way the world has changed and is changing.

He, like everyone, is far from perfect. But I wouldn’t come to any final conclusions based on what he allows the public to see, and think they/we see.
 
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Looking at a turkey in Turkey makes me hungry in Hungary which in turn makes me grumpily smash my china in China.


... ok, I'll show myself out of this thread now. Bye.
 
Being depressed and feeling maladjusted since childhood takes its toll on a person. Add to that betrayals (real or perceived), profound losses and countless disappointments and you’ll probably end up pretty f***ed up and far from who you were when you were in your 20s.

I don’t really like who he’s become (or seem to have become) nor do I like what it’s done to his art, but I can understand why the situation is what it is.
I think there are points in every person's life that change them and make it impossible to go back.
For Morrissey? Losing The Smiths, losing the court case, losing his Mum - three emotional tidal waves that changed everything after them, changed his whole life. I don't think the criticism and public mauling of the past few years is something he's going to forget, either. "Balancing life's riches against the ditches and the flat, grey years in between."
 
Looking at a turkey in Turkey makes me hungry in Hungary which in turn makes me grumpily smash my china in China.


... ok, I'll show myself out of this thread now. Bye.
You should try to calm down by watching whales in Wales. In Iran, I ran a lot to destress.
 
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a cultural event will be held in our district library. I can speak with the administration to organize a Morrissey concert for older children and pensioners. and people are happy, and Morrissey will have the opportunity to support his pants. for some reason they keep dropping off :brows:
 
a cultural event will be held in our district library. I can speak with the administration to organize a Morrissey concert for older children and pensioners. and people are happy, and Morrissey will have the opportunity to support his pants. for some reason they keep dropping off :brows:

The pensioners need all the excitement they can get.
Don't think they'll mind the pants droppin'.
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Yes. But you are here. Why? Because of what he is now? No. Because of what he was then.
bit late i am but yes! I got into morrissey through the smiths but i choose his solo stuff, old and new, over the smiths. Not to say that the smiths are bad or worse because I adore them as well, but I would choose "you are the quarry" over lets say..."strangeways"
 
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