For Britain YT: "We're proud to stand with Morrissey" (April 20, 2021)

No - my point was - who was the person that said the things that started this all off? Was it The Simpsons? No. Was it Morrissey? Yes. He has no one else to blame. He should own what he said, and say he meant every word.

The Simpsons would have had no material to go on had Morrissey not said the things he did.

They didn't use the things he said.

They made it up.
 
I don't think Waters knows what the word, "tyranny", means.
:unsure:... I'm not watching this because I don't want to f.up my yt suggestions, but since she speaks a bit funny I think it's likely she meant tranny.
I'm sure AMW knows a lot about trannies. Sleeping ones, woke ones, all manners of trannies.
Could even be her specialist subject.
 
Except Morrissey doesn't much seem to like 'free speech' when he's on the wrong end of it.
Then you must be struggling to read. Try GCSE English, you’ll get a great base knowledge.
 
:unsure:... I'm not watching this because I don't want to f.up my yt suggestions, but since she speaks a bit funny I think it's likely she meant tranny.
I'm sure AMW knows a lot about trannies. Sleeping ones, woke ones, all manners of trannies.
Could even be her specialist subject.

I object to that word - but she has waded into the tra terf war. On the terf side.

An opinion she shares with Uncle Skinny.
 
Don't fall for these tricks folks.
They're tryin' to start this spinnin' cycle up again.
They want ya sayin' and makin' the same 'ole
statements over and over.
The same 'ole drip with the same 'ole dribble.
 
If you honestly believe that For Britain thing is the result of Morrissey phoning AMW and saying "please put something out there, I need your support" you are way, way more f***ed in the head than we all thought you were anyway. She's just using his name to try desperately to promote her miniscule, crackpot "party"

I believe what your saying is true but that’s his own stupid fault for giving them support in the past and associating his name with them, crackpots. They are now going to bring up his name when they see fit to there advantage because he was stupid enough to support them in the first place.
 
What if Morrissey does fully support For Britain, AMW et al? Will you still support him?

I'd still love him & argue for his art/other aspects of his personality - but I would have to acknowledge that there was a dark side & that those policies are racist.

I don't see it though. Unless he's had a complete breakdown.
 
Katy Perry needs Morrissey to help her go vegan. She wants to.
 
I believe what your saying is true but that’s his own stupid fault for giving them support in the past and associating his name with them, crackpots. They are now going to bring up his name when they see fit to there advantage because he was stupid enough to support them in the first place.

I disagree.

If he once supported FB based solely on what she says in the video, then I see no problem in it. I can recognize him defending animals against cruelty, and also human beings oppressed by any kind of fundamentalism. And I don't think that makes him or anybody far-right at all.

Just so you know, politically, I'm a leftist.
 
I'd still love him & argue for his art/other aspects of his personality - but I would have to acknowledge that there was a dark side & that those policies are racist.

I don't see it though. Unless he's had a complete breakdown.
He’s not stupid, though. He had to go out of his way to source that For Britain badge. He was making a statement by wearing it prominently on his jacket on TV.
There is no way he was unaware of their immigration stance. He didn’t find it objectionable enough to ditch the badge in favour of, say, a PETA one, or an “I’m a vegan!” one.

Not having a go or anything, I like you, just interested in your thoughts. Personally, I don’t care what party he supports.
 
They didn't use the things he said.

They made it up.
Yes the Simpsons fabricated those words he never said he hated foreigners he only hinted at it in interviews.

let’s see he said something to the sorts that immigration and the influx foreigners into England his own country that
he himself no longer lives in that the influx of foreigners was diluting England’s nationality. When hit with allegations of racism he said those words are meaningless now and that everyone prefers they’re own race. Also that he’s had staunchly supported For Britain a far right wing political party that borders on hate group, so yeah there is a lot of context there for a writer to come up with the idea that they did for the show.
 
He’s not stupid, though. He had to go out of his way to source that For Britain badge. He was making a statement by wearing it prominently on his jacket on TV.
There is no way he was unaware of their immigration stance. He didn’t find it objectionable enough to ditch the badge in favour of, say, a PETA one, or an “I’m a vegan!” one.

Not having a go or anything, I like you, just interested in your thoughts. Personally, I don’t care what party he supports.

She didn't have those policies.

She started in the National Secular Society - which has an off-shoot One Law For All which campaigns against Sharia law courts - it's liberal-left.

She left when she wanted to team up with Tommy Robinson who offered to help them get publicity to make himself look more legit & they sensibly refused.

She was more or less pretending to be a more vocal & attention grabbing version of One Law.

Her rhetoric doesn't do a full shift into the far right until August 2019 - 4 months after Pingate.

It's not that difficult to get someone to get you a badge or to be given one - he obviously collects them.
 
Look at all the virtual pearl clutching and excited outrage. Please explain how the For Britain or Tommy Robinson types are “racist” exactly? A criticism of Islam and wanting to limit its growth would likely be shared by the vast majority of indigenous Brits.

Nothing extreme whatsoever about Morrissey feeling likewise.
If the criticism was of ethnicity then Sikhs and Hindus would be in the same boat but that isn’t the case. It’s all one big virtue circle jerk.

If you want a categorical and accurate criticism of For Britain then attack their denial of anthropogenic climate change. Something harmful with no basis in fact.
 

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