Fat People

CrystalGeezer

My secret's my enzyme.
I am a big girl. But not so big I can't ride a roller coaster or break chairs or anything. So the last few months I've been losing about a pound a week, 25 total since my neck surgery where I weighed in at 245.



But as the pounds drop and I need to cinch my belt more, I'm starting to wonder when to stop, because I like being curvy, I'm not offended or embarrassed by it other than at certain angles and only after watching anorexic pornography.



I look normal enough. I feel comfortable in my body. My doctor tells me I'm healthy, all my numbers are normal other than BMI, he says I'm "Fit Fat."



A lot of my weight's in my ass and tits, but maybe it's not such a bad thing I have a badunkabutt. I'd rather look luscious then Auschwitz Chic.



So as my friends and family cheer me on to lose weight, I'm thinking about eating more pizza. :o Is that wrong? To want to be soft and squishy?
 

CrystalGeezer

My secret's my enzyme.
I wish I had Coco's flat stomach, that is all. Although my uncle who has his own company making plastic surgery implants says her ass is fake, total butt implants, not 100% yoga like she'd have you believe. (My uncle made Rosanne Barr's face cheek implants. #funfactthursday)



Reading is sexy, people. :thumb:

 

Amy

from the Ice Age to the dole age
I admire your honesty for posting this, CG. Took some balls.

However I don't think that being a normal, healthy weight (or wanting to be) is silly or shallow or "Auschwitz chic", it's just sensible, trying to look after yourself and give yourself the best chance of a long life.
Your life and your choices are up to you, and if you're happy then that's fair enough. I get the feeling that if you were totally happy being "big", you wouldn't have posted this thread, though.
I am a fatty myself and hate it, have always hated it. I've been losing weight for about a month now and still have ~30lbs to go to be in the normal range, so that's the goal. I don't know your height, but I don't think it's wise to completely disregard BMI. Just my two cents.
 

CrystalGeezer

My secret's my enzyme.
I admire your honesty for posting this, CG. Took some balls.

However I don't think that being a normal, healthy weight (or wanting to be) is silly or shallow or "Auschwitz chic", it's just sensible, trying to look after yourself and give yourself the best chance of a long life.
Your life and your choices are up to you, and if you're happy then that's fair enough. I get the feeling that if you were totally happy being "big", you wouldn't have posted this thread, though.
I am a fatty myself and hate it, have always hated it. I've been losing weight for about a month now and still have ~30lbs to go to be in the normal range, so that's the goal. I don't know your height, but I don't think it's wise to completely disregard BMI. Just my two cents.
I'm 5',6". Other than the flat stomach my only gripe is finding cute clothes. It seems the Torrids and Lane Bryants of the world think all fat people love wearing animal prints and bedazzled butt pockets when my style sense veers towards J. Crew and Anne Taylor if money were no object. Size 22 jeans is an object as they don't make them that big. :p Also 3/4 length sleeves. WTF!? When did all fat people decide their cuffs stop mid arm? It makes people look FATTER if you ask me.
 

Amy

from the Ice Age to the dole age
I'm 5',6". Other than the flat stomach my only gripe is finding cute clothes. It seems the Torrids and Lane Bryants of the world think all fat people love wearing animal prints and bedazzled butt pockets when my style sense veers towards J. Crew and Anne Taylor if money were no object. Size 22 jeans is an object as they don't make them that big. :p Also 3/4 length sleeves. WTF!? When did all fat people decide their cuffs stop mid arm? It makes people look FATTER if you ask me.
Don't the potential health implications bother you though? And the clothes thing? And the general confidence thing? 3/4 sleeves do make people look fatter because they cut off mid-forearm, which is usually the fattest part of the arm.
 

Chickpea

pithy yet degenerate
So as my friends and family cheer me on to lose weight, I'm thinking about eating more pizza. :o Is that wrong? To want to be soft and squishy?
In a word: Nope.

I've been all over the place weight-wise for the past decade or so, topping out at around 190 and with a low point of 123 (I'm 5'6"). I'm right in the middle of that range right now (163), and I self-identify as "fat." During the periods of time when I've been visibly losing weight, I've found it almost unbearably uncomfortable and embarrassing when friends/family have, as you put it, cheered me on, commenting on how good I look and blah blah blah. I don't hear those comments as positive compliments, I hear them as criticisms of me at a larger size.

I have always totally rejected the idea that women (and men—though I think that's a whole other subject) should look a certain way, or that achieving some kind of physical ideal is something we should even be concerned with. I'm concerned with my appearance in the same way that I'm concerned with the appearance of anything—a book cover, a building, a poster, a painting. I think of myself as a design project, and to that end I want ME to look aesthetically pleasing to my own eye, but I do not give a rat's ass whether or not anyone else finds me attractive.

I try to separate my attitude about my weight from my feelings about "beauty," because conflating the two puts you in a position of having to balance self-image (as far as appearance is concerned) with health, and that's risky. Even though I've never had any weight-related health problems, I know that as I get older it will be harder to lose weight if that ever does become an issue, and I don't want to be 60 years old and diabetic and trying to lose 50 pounds with a bum knee. You know what I mean? So I am trying to take care of myself now, and I DO want to lose some weight. I've dropped about 20 pounds in the past four months, but I've hit a plateau recently—primarily due to stress-eating. I get a decent amount of everyday exercise, so I haven't gained, but I want to get myself back on track with the healthy eating. (And when I say "healthy eating," I really mean it—I'm not talking about "diet" foods and artificial sweeteners and shit. I mean whole grains and dark leafy greens and all that jazz. I feel good when I eat that way.)

The thing about the word "healthy" is that it covers a lot of ground. I would much rather be comfortable with my body at whatever size than be totally obsessed with my weight (and other people's weight) and monitoring everything that goes in my mouth—I don't think that's healthy at all. A person's size really says very little about their overall well-being…or whether they're a decent human being.

Anyway, I posted this link here a few days ago, but then I felt all weird and deleted it. It's a post I wrote four years ago about this subject, and I go back to it a lot to remind myself of how I felt when I wrote it—I felt GOOD and positive and strong. A lot of the comments are great, too:
http://www.doorsixteen.com/2010/10/15/im-ok/

Thanks for sharing this, CG. It's obvious to me from your posts here that you have a really positive self-image, and I think that's awesome. (And rare.)
 

CrystalGeezer

My secret's my enzyme.
Don't the potential health implications bother you though? And the clothes thing? And the general confidence thing? 3/4 sleeves do make people look fatter because they cut off mid-forearm, which is usually the fattest part of the arm.
Well, I guess a bit. But my doctor says my cholesterol and A1C are fine. Maybe general confidence...but even when I was a rail I didn't have a whole lot of confidence so it's not really an issue. Besides, I go dancing a lot and could give a shit what anyone thinks. I have confidence.

Lane Bryant is getting better, they had some cute plaid wool trousers the other day. And Torrid looks like it has potential online, but walk into the shop and try NOT to think "Oh, so this is where the fat whores buy their clothes. Okay..." It's impossible.
 

CrystalGeezer

My secret's my enzyme.
In a word: Nope.

I've been all over the place weight-wise for the past decade or so, topping out at around 190 and with a low point of 123 (I'm 5'6"). I'm right in the middle of that range right now (163), and I self-identify as "fat." During the periods of time when I've been visibly losing weight, I've found it almost unbearably uncomfortable and embarrassing when friends/family have, as you put it, cheered me on, commenting on how good I look and blah blah blah. I don't hear those comments as positive compliments, I hear them as criticisms of me at a larger size.

I have always totally rejected the idea that women (and men—though I think that's a whole other subject) should look a certain way, or that achieving some kind of physical ideal is something we should even be concerned with. I'm concerned with my appearance in the same way that I'm concerned with the appearance of anything—a book cover, a building, a poster, a painting. I think of myself as a design project, and to that end I want ME to look aesthetically pleasing to my own eye, but I do not give a rat's ass whether or not anyone else finds me attractive.

I try to separate my attitude about my weight from my feelings about "beauty," because conflating the two puts you in a position of having to balance self-image (as far as appearance is concerned) with health, and that's risky. Even though I've never had any weight-related health problems, I know that as I get older it will be harder to lose weight if that ever does become an issue, and I don't want to be 60 years old and diabetic and trying to lose 50 pounds with a bum knee. You know what I mean? So I am trying to take care of myself now, and I DO want to lose some weight. I've dropped about 20 pounds in the past four months, but I've hit a plateau recently—primarily due to stress-eating. I get a decent amount of everyday exercise, so I haven't gained, but I want to get myself back on track with the healthy eating. (And when I say "healthy eating," I really mean it—I'm not talking about "diet" foods and artificial sweeteners and shit. I mean whole grains and dark leafy greens and all that jazz. I feel good when I eat that way.)

The thing about the word "healthy" is that it covers a lot of ground. I would much rather be comfortable with my body at whatever size than be totally obsessed with my weight (and other people's weight) and monitoring everything that goes in my mouth—I don't think that's healthy at all. A person's size really says very little about their overall well-being…or whether they're a decent human being.

Anyway, I posted this link here a few days ago, but then I felt all weird and deleted it. It's a post I wrote four years ago about this subject, and I go back to it a lot to remind myself of how I felt when I wrote it—I felt GOOD and positive and strong. A lot of the comments are great, too:
http://www.doorsixteen.com/2010/10/15/im-ok/

Thanks for sharing this, CG. It's obvious to me from your posts here that you have a really positive self-image, and I think that's awesome. (And rare.)
Exactly! On all points. (I'll take a look at that post when I'm not not doing my job which is right now. Gotta go.)

Whenever I'm feeling down about my flub, I listen to Rob Delaney stand-up. He's a big champion of the Goddess shape, for lack of a better word.
 
CG, here's my two cents worth....
If you're losing about one pound per week, it sounds like you've found a healthy way to do it.
You're blessed with being naturally curvy, so you don't have to worry about losing so much weight that you'll lose your curves.
And- I bet you've discovered that you're having an easier time finding the cute clothes that you like- so keep going - or just try to maintain. You look great.

On a side note, I have several friends who started gaining weight, once they hit their mid forties.
They complain that it's quite a bit harder to loose weight nowadays. Maybe it does get harder, or maybe they're just less motivated- I don't know.
Life is short. Just be happy!
 
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I am a big girl. But not so big I can't ride a roller coaster or break chairs or anything. So the last few months I've been losing about a pound a week, 25 total since my neck surgery where I weighed in at 245.



But as the pounds drop and I need to cinch my belt more, I'm starting to wonder when to stop, because I like being curvy, I'm not offended or embarrassed by it other than at certain angles and only after watching anorexic pornography.



I look normal enough. I feel comfortable in my body. My doctor tells me I'm healthy, all my numbers are normal other than BMI, he says I'm "Fit Fat."



A lot of my weight's in my ass and tits, but maybe it's not such a bad thing I have a badunkabutt. I'd rather look luscious then Auschwitz Chic.



So as my friends and family cheer me on to lose weight, I'm thinking about eating more pizza. :o Is that wrong? To want to be soft and squishy?
I wonder why you hide your femininity under clothes that should be on a man?

Have you ever thought to yourself that you should get help from someone that know how you should dress to enhance your qualitíes?

I have had several girlfriends who could not dress to save their lives and I was always able to make them dress in a way that made them feel good about themselves. I think you should go for professional help when it comes to clothes and your general appearance unless you have issues that somehow make you avoid being able to show off who you really are.

Play around with styles and in the end you will find a new one that suits you better than the current one.
 
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Anonymous

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Cut all the sugar out and reduce the inflammation in your body because that is not just fat on you it is inflammation from sugar. If you do that and also exercise in whatever way you like that makes you sweat a lot you will lose loads in no time. People tend to wanna lose weight but not work for it but you cannot cut any corners and running is always the best way to lose weight no matter what some people claim but only if you make sure that you sweat a lot and replaces that with a lot of water.

Go out and run in several layers of clothes and do situps and avoid sugar as much as you can. There is sugar in most things but avoid the sugar that you add now by choice and avoid products that are full of it. Read on the packets what things contain and go for more healthier options and ecological food. Avoid milk and things like that which gives you issues with candida and hormones.

Make sure to take garlic capsules, zinc, magnesium and B6 vitamins.
 
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Anonymous

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You asked about "fat people" and yourself in particular and posted several photos of yourself. Before even clicking on the link, I knew people were only going to tell you what you wanted to hear. That's a disservice to you and within the responses are half-truths and lies. You are obese, without question. Weight matters in lots of ways your doctor should be telling you about, notably people who are not fat have a greatly reduced chance of getting diabetes. So, think not just of today, tomorrow, or a year from now. Think about the long term effects of your weight. This isn't about societal notions of beauty but about health. To wit, I've wanted minor cosmetic surgery for a broken nose obtained playing sports long ago...but I just let it go and deal with a slight slant. Unlike some (and you know who they are, I am not caught up in media ideas of beauty otherwise I'd have my nose restored). In addition, "fit fat" means a certain level of definition and tone, not squishy. You can actually be fit as a BBW at your height and weight but I doubt you want to live in the gym. Are you "big boned" (I am) and so I'll never look thin and that's OK. Also, BMI should be checked by more than one method, if possible, because it can vary depending on the method used. If your BMI is under 30, and you are under 200 pounds, eat really healthy (and I mean really), and two M.D.'s tell you that you are not in the danger zone for heart disease, diabetes, etc., I guess you can keep on trucking. Some diseases are reversible, some are not. Please note I have said nothing about dress size or portion control. I am talking about preventive steps and what is reasonably foreseeable. Finally, Cardio. Figure out your target heart rate. Can you stay there for 15 minutes (minimum)? If so, great! Aside from moral reasons, being a vegetarian or vegan for all the health benefits it brings, is pointless, if one is obese.
 

CrystalGeezer

My secret's my enzyme.
I wonder why you hide your femininity under clothes that should be on a man?

Have you ever thought to yourself that you should get help from someone that know how you should dress to enhance your qualitíes?

I have had several girlfriends who could not dress to save their lives and I was always able to make them dress in a way that made them feel good about themselves. I think you should go for professional help when it comes to clothes and your general appearance unless you have issues that somehow make you avoid being able to show off who you really are.

Play around with styles and in the end you will find a new one that suits you better than the current one.
And there is no style, but I say well done
 

Chickpea

pithy yet degenerate
I wonder why you hide your femininity under clothes that should be on a man?

Have you ever thought to yourself that you should get help from someone that know how you should dress to enhance your qualitíes?

I have had several girlfriends who could not dress to save their lives and I was always able to make them dress in a way that made them feel good about themselves. I think you should go for professional help when it comes to clothes and your general appearance unless you have issues that somehow make you avoid being able to show off who you really are.

Play around with styles and in the end you will find a new one that suits you better than the current one.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL. :laughing:

But I'll play along: Would you please provide us women with lists of what sort of attire should be on a man and what should be on a woman?

I'm sure all of your ex-girlfriends who could not dress to save their lives were extremely grateful for your manly opinions. Please share them with the rest of us who are clearly too stupid to understand what we should be doing to enhance our "femininity."

Then maybe when we're done, you can post a bunch of pictures of yourself and we can tell you how to enhance your qualities.

You asked about "fat people" and yourself in particular and posted several photos of yourself. Before even clicking on the link, I knew people were only going to tell you what you wanted to hear. That's a disservice to you and within the responses are half-truths and lies.
Translation: You didn't actually read any of the replies.
 

CrystalGeezer

My secret's my enzyme.
OK, you don't wanna change so stay the same then. I see no problem with that but it seems to me you wanna change.
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I don't know what world you live in but where I come from an apartment manager/house cleaner is not exactly in the market for a stylist. Maybe you'd benefit from sending your fat ass back to the ghetto as well.
 

fredkocherpepsi

Active Member
This is a great thread. I have struggled with weight my whole life. I’ve probably lost 1000 pounds over the course of my life, just not all at once. I’m short (5’4”) which doesn’t help matters. I actually have a horrible self image and deal with it with humor...classic case. I was at my lowest weight of my adult life about a year or so ago, but then just as CP mentioned, stress eating came into play (father in law died last October, Mom in May...) and next thing I knew I was up 35lbs. Trying to be more cognizant of what I put into my body but it’s hard. I don’t use drugs. Don’t drink at all. Don’t smoke. Food is all I’ve got. Oh, and coffee. Lots of coffee.

“Why did you put me in, self deprecating bones and skin, Jesus do you hate me?"
 

Chickpea

pithy yet degenerate
This is a great thread. I have struggled with weight my whole life. I’ve probably lost 1000 pounds over the course of my life, just not all at once. I’m short (5’4”) which doesn’t help matters. I actually have a horrible self image and deal with it with humor...classic case. I was at my lowest weight of my adult life about a year or so ago, but then just as CP mentioned, stress eating came into play (father in law died last October, Mom in May...) and next thing I knew I was up 35lbs. Trying to be more cognizant of what I put into my body but it’s hard. I don’t use drugs. Don’t drink at all. Don’t smoke. Food is all I’ve got. Oh, and coffee. Lots of coffee.
Thanks for adding your voice to the discussion, Fred. I know it isn't exactly the same for men and women (in terms of how overweight men are viewed versus women historically), but it's also kinda frustrating that weight struggles and body image tend to get labeled as a "women's issues." Maybe that's partly because men aren't allowed to be as openly concerned about how they look as women are. Even worrying about health seems like something men aren't supposed to care about unless it's some kind of extreme sport.

Food is tough, I know, and I'm sure it's even harder when you have growing kids at home. I find food endlessly comforting, and I freely admit that I use it as a crutch when I'm not doing well emotionally or when I'm super stressed. That leads to me not feeling well physically and being tired all the time, so I drink coffee...and then I can't sleep, so I'm tired the next day and too lazy to cook, so I order Chinese food, etc. It's a vicious cycle. The only time I'm capable of consistently eating well is when I quit coffee for at least a week. The longest I've been off it was two months, and I've never eaten (or slept) better.

Anyway, I get it.
 

fredkocherpepsi

Active Member
Thanks for adding your voice to the discussion, Fred. I know it isn't exactly the same for men and women (in terms of how overweight men are viewed versus women historically), but it's also kinda frustrating that weight struggles and body image tend to get labeled as a "women's issues." Maybe that's partly because men aren't allowed to be as openly concerned about how they look as women are. Even worrying about health seems like something men aren't supposed to care about unless it's some kind of extreme sport.

Food is tough, I know, and I'm sure it's even harder when you have growing kids at home. I find food endlessly comforting, and I freely admit that I use it as a crutch when I'm not doing well emotionally or when I'm super stressed. That leads to me not feeling well physically and being tired all the time, so I drink coffee...and then I can't sleep, so I'm tired the next day and too lazy to cook, so I order Chinese food, etc. It's a vicious cycle. The only time I'm capable of consistently eating well is when I quit coffee for at least a week. The longest I've been off it was two months, and I've never eaten (or slept) better.

Anyway, I get it.
...and now I want Chinese food. Thanks a lot! :)
 
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