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Discussion in 'General Discussion archive 2000 (read-only)' started by Abrahan "Palare" Garza, Aug 17, 2000.

  1. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    Re: beddy time!

    > how are you right now?

    > you see, I am worried about you...

    hmm...

    i went to a coffeeshop and wrote the outline of a travel article, which is something I haven't done in 6+ months, i picked up my guitar for the first time in nearly 2 months. i want to bake, but found that my plan for making truffels might be foiled until i can find some liqueur.

    at the same time, i feel really tired and blah. i know it sounds like i did a lot today, but trust me, i really didn't do that much and here I am....i've been staring at magazine articles i've read many times. more accurately, staring at the pictures. i don't know why but trying to read lengthy things is seriously bothering me.

    i should be recovering. i haven't done much of anything for about 3 days, but somethings not working.

    i slept quite a bit last night, and it really didn't work.

    > tu te sens encore à l'Europe?

    > Je me souviens très bien que j'avais un grand désire d'y
    > retourner... ce que n'est jamais arrivé... je te comprends.

    > don't you agree? and people from texas are those who speak the
    > sounds much more toghether than others! :)

    actually, we shorten things with many syllables, and put more syllables in one-syllable words.

    > really...

    > just like me - it's 3:35 am now...

    > I don't have much of them either...

    > oh you are making me feel guilty...

    > I think the internet life is a very exciting one... I don't have
    > much more than this... well, I have a beautiful daughter and
    > some cds of Schubert.

    i have some of my CD's...my TV works....

    > I don't know. I don't have time to veg either...

    > I don`t think you whine that much...

    > well, perhaps this is the real cause of your mood.

    > don`t be angry with me if you don`t like it, ok?

    > hehehe... do you know them by heart?

    no bits and pieces which is worse coz you can't finish the damn song.

    Aladdin was the last of the movies with decent music. When they started getting Elton John to do soundtracks, I lost all interest.

    > in brazil these kind of films are always spoken in portuguese,
    > and they call brazilian singers to sing the songs. It sounds oh
    > so fake to me - the songs were not thought to be sung in
    > english... it's strange. If it's some kitsch singer that do
    > versions, I don`t care. But they want to put it in a
    > sophisticated shell, and I think it's strange.

    welcome to disney.

    they have a new movie coming out called the "emporer;s new groove" with sting doing title tracks. blech.

    > Anyway, our children have to have songs sung in our language!
    > :)

    > nowadays I don`t repress my feelings when I can`t take some song
    > away of my mind... I like some ridiculous things, you know...
    > :)

    > Good idea. I`ll tell it to my friend.

    > anyway, she finally perceived you do well your job, didn`t she?

    no, she thought I was only useful in ONE job. when i tried to move from that job, she treated me like crap.

    > hey suzanne, I think I have the cassette of this cd and I never
    > hear it. Wouldn`t be offended if...?

    What? I'm more offended that you DON'T listen to it at all.

    Are we talking about the same album? "wrong way up"?

    > I could record another cd and send to you too... I can make some
    > copies of the cds you've lost...

    that's OK.

    > are you like me then? I am terribly lazy to fix things in my
    > car.

    everything i have is junked...not terribly, but you know how it is when you are single and responsible for keeping track of EVERYTHING. It gets boring and tiring and you start letting things slip. AFter all, nobody is going to see if you livingroom has paper lying around.

    > i understand... I am like that too...

    > al my loveable cds are in places that can be robbed someway.

    all mine are in my house.

    > but do you think is because of that they steal? I think the drug
    > thing is the principal cause of these kind of robbery,
    > principally in a rich country like USA.

    oh phbbt.

    drugs shmugs. the vast majority of drug users are people who can afford it. and after knowing a couple of potheads myself, i can tell you that they have the same level of morals as far as theft and all that goes. they just like having a toke. why not say alcoholics are just as capable?

    and as i said, the US itself may be rich, but the wealth only goes to a few people. it's not like i'm driving a mercedes benz.

    > really... in brazil we have the ide everybody in the states
    > makes 60,000 a year...

    that's a laugh. for the first few years i was out of university, i was making about 1/4 of that.

    don't get me wrong. i know a person or two who is making closer to that out of school, but it's in doing things I can't do that require lots of math.

    > oh great!

    > the first intructions he gave me didn't work at all. I have to
    > try more.

    > this is some kind of darwinist method isn`t it?

    yes and no. yes in that it assumes that people in richer school districts are more worthy of being educated.

    for example, here in this very city, there are some elementary schools with brandnew computers, courses in foreign languages at an earlier age than 13, a greater bredth of extracurricular activities and numerous forms of coursework that range outside of the basics of literature. this includes having tutors for musicians, and the latest equipment for the sports department.

    then, you have the poor schools across town that are having other schools donate their old books. the buildings are starting to fall down, and the teachers are having to use part of their salaries to bring needed items to teach with. they offer the very basic curriculum, and if you're in the special education system, they've pretty much lumped them all together in one room to teach them how to cook as their life skill after they graduate.

    > I agree you are right in this point.

    > hehehe... this was cruel from you...

    > mais ils t'ont compris, n'est-ce pas? ça c'est le plus important
    > après tout.

    > i don`t know...

    > In Brazil probably 199/200 of the populatin never heard about
    > Sartre - but those obsessed by France normally are like that
    > because they have some humanist references.

    > I remeber I liked Italy and everybody always says marvelous
    > things about it, that they are a affectionate people and so on,
    > but my father went there recently and hated italians. He said
    > marvelous things about greeks and germans (who I always thought
    > were cold).

    > hehehe... really nice...

    who knows? every time i go somewhere, people are not what other people say they are.

    > anyway, it seems that european people use to take less baths
    > than americans and brazilians. There are even researches about
    > it!

    i love taking baths.

    > which group are you talking about? the one from your trip?

    no, this was the guy from a couple of months ago.

    > weel, but this doesn`t signifie at all that every guy in the
    > world will think the same way about you.

    right. i was hit on quite a bunch overseas. mostly by these scary looking dudes, however....

    ...like this one late 50ish guy from Belfast when I was in Paris...wins the creep of the year award.

    > anyway, you are much nearer him than me. so if you meet him tell
    > him I like him so much!

    > sorry... this was stupid :)

    *sigh* you know it doesn't do you any good. Being married and in Brazil makes you even more useless than Morrissey.

    > these two people are you and your friend from English, isn`t it?
    > and what's "rare pub hopping" is?

    it's when you rarely go to pubs.

    i guess what i mean is that it's good for social occasions that pop up once every eon.

    > it's 4:23 now. I don`t know if my wife wants me out of bed early
    > or not tomorrow... well, today...

    heh. i don't have anyone here to kick me out of bed.
     
  2. wicked wendy

    wicked wendy Guest

    Re: Just Giving Thanks!

    >> as much as a cat loves its master:
    >> "oh you want the prey to come sooner, oh you want the prey
    >> to come sooner, oh" ...

    > uh---huh.

    > are there any prey worth mentioning around here?

    anything edible can be bitten at.
     
  3. Fabricio

    Fabricio Guest

    do you like Shangri-las, Suzanne?

    >
    > > how are you right now?
    >
    > > you see, I am worried about you...
    >
    > hmm...
    >
    > i went to a coffeeshop and wrote the outline of a travel article, which is
    > something I haven't done in 6+ months, i picked up my guitar for the first
    > time in nearly 2 months.

    this is good, don`t you think?

    > i want to bake, but found that my plan for making
    > truffels might be foiled until i can find some liqueur.

    :)

    >
    > at the same time, i feel really tired and blah. i know it sounds like i did a
    > lot today, but trust me, i really didn't do that much and here I am....i've
    > been staring at magazine articles i've read many times. more accurately,
    > staring at the pictures. i don't know why but trying to read lengthy things is
    > seriously bothering me.
    >
    > i should be recovering. i haven't done much of anything for about 3 days, but
    > somethings not working.
    >
    > i slept quite a bit last night, and it really didn't work.

    And now, how do you are?

    I think you are simply stressed because of your trip, and this is completely normal, you see?

    You had lots of new experiences, you lost your cds, your routine changed completely for some days. It's natural you can't concentrate on anything.

    Talking about concentration, I had my 3rd English class today. My teacher is a huge fan of U2, and he passed all the class talking about the show she saw in São Paulo 2 years ago (U2 is in Brazil now again because they want "thank our country" one marvelous show they did in São Paulo...)

    Of course I told her about my Morrissey show.

    A good class indeed!

    Talking about Bono and Morrissey, have you seen passage of the Novello Awards where both hugged each other so carefully? I told my teacher I would send the mpeg archive to hers.

    It seems that Morrissey really loves Bono Vox!

    > >
    > > don't you agree? and people from texas are those who speak the
    > > sounds much more toghether than others! :)
    >
    > actually, we shorten things with many syllables, and put more syllables in
    > one-syllable words.

    heheh... perhaps this is why nobody understand people from Texas! :)

    >
    > > I think the internet life is a very exciting one... I don't have
    > > much more than this... well, I have a beautiful daughter and
    > > some cds of Schubert.
    >
    > i have some of my CD's...my TV works....

    and we both have Files-X!
    >
    > > hehehe... do you know them by heart?
    >
    > no bits and pieces which is worse coz you can't finish the damn song.

    yeah - this is always terrible.

    >
    > Aladdin was the last of the movies with decent music. When they started
    > getting Elton John to do soundtracks, I lost all interest.

    I know he made some of the worst songs ever, like Nikitta and you have to love someone (or something like that).

    But he had some great ballads, don`t you think?

    Anyway, the guy seems to be one of the most idiots of this business. Have you seen the process where he said he bought to himself tons of flowers by year? Just an idiot do it. And he is almost bankrupt.
    >

    > > in brazil these kind of films are always spoken in portuguese,
    > > and they call brazilian singers to sing the songs. It sounds oh
    > > so fake to me - the songs were not thought to be sung in
    > > english... it's strange. If it's some kitsch singer that do
    > > versions, I don`t care. But they want to put it in a
    > > sophisticated shell, and I think it's strange.
    >
    > welcome to disney.
    >
    > they have a new movie coming out called the "emporer;s new groove" with sting
    > doing title tracks. blech.

    oh you should know the brazilian people who sang in disney`s more recent film: ivan lins, daniela mercury and ed motta. Blech again.

    >
    > > anyway, she finally perceived you do well your job, didn`t she?
    >
    > no, she thought I was only useful in ONE job. when i tried to move from that
    > job, she treated me like crap.

    Oh, I had this problem with a boss too. This stressed me really much. She and her friends made dishonest pressure against me during months. Even one of my best friends made terrible pressures against me.

    I can`t exagerated the pain, you know.

    >
    > > hey suzanne, I think I have the cassette of this cd and I never
    > > hear it. Wouldn`t be offended if...?
    >
    > What? I'm more offended that you DON'T listen to it at all.

    hehehe...

    >
    > Are we talking about the same album? "wrong way up"?

    it's the only one they've mede, haven`t they?

    Well, I liked so much "before and after science" from eno; "low", from david bowie with eno producing; the first two roxy music albuns; and "songs for drella" from reed/cale; and all the velvet stuff.

    I just expected too much from this album perhaps... i considered it so... pop!

    Well, I'm sure if I'll hear again before sending it to you I'll like it!

    or perhaps not... :)

    >
    > > I could record another cd and send to you too... I can make some
    > > copies of the cds you've lost...
    >
    > that's OK.

    oh great. I just have to fix my cd recorder. The things the guy said to me really didn`t work. He has to come here.

    >
    > > are you like me then? I am terribly lazy to fix things in my
    > > car.
    >
    > everything i have is junked...not terribly, but you know how it is when you
    > are single and responsible for keeping track of EVERYTHING. It gets boring and
    > tiring and you start letting things slip.

    well, i'm not single and things passes almost like this with my car...

    > AFter all, nobody is going to see if
    > you livingroom has paper lying around.

    but if you have a daughter... again you can`t organize your house... :)

    changing the subject... have you ever hear shangri-las? (i think i've asked you) I am hearing now. I think you would like it!

    but "the leader of the pack" sucks!

    Me and Johnny Marr can`t understand why this song is their biggest success!

    >
    > > i understand... I am like that too...
    >
    > > al my loveable cds are in places that can be robbed someway.
    >
    > all mine are in my house.

    mine are at work...
    >
    > > but do you think is because of that they steal? I think the drug
    > > thing is the principal cause of these kind of robbery,
    > > principally in a rich country like USA.
    >
    > oh phbbt.
    >
    > drugs shmugs. the vast majority of drug users are people who can afford it.
    > and after knowing a couple of potheads myself, i can tell you that they have
    > the same level of morals as far as theft and all that goes. they just like
    > having a toke. why not say alcoholics are just as capable?

    I see... but i think with heroin and crack users the thing is different, don`t you think?

    >
    > and as i said, the US itself may be rich, but the wealth only goes to a few
    > people. it's not like i'm driving a mercedes benz.

    yeah... i understand...

    >
    > > really... in brazil we have the ide everybody in the states
    > > makes 60,000 a year...
    >
    > that's a laugh. for the first few years i was out of university, i was making
    > about 1/4 of that.
    >
    > don't get me wrong. i know a person or two who is making closer to that out of
    > school, but it's in doing things I can't do that require lots of math.

    I like math... i should live at States! :)

    in Brazil only lawyers have chance.

    and some people who works with computers of course...

    >
    > > oh great!
    >
    > > the first intructions he gave me didn't work at all. I have to
    > > try more.
    >
    > > this is some kind of darwinist method isn`t it?
    >
    > yes and no. yes in that it assumes that people in richer school districts are
    > more worthy of being educated.
    >
    > for example, here in this very city, there are some elementary schools with
    > brandnew computers, courses in foreign languages at an earlier age than 13, a
    > greater bredth of extracurricular activities and numerous forms of coursework
    > that range outside of the basics of literature. this includes having tutors
    > for musicians, and the latest equipment for the sports department.

    but these elementary schools are for rich students in general?

    >
    > then, you have the poor schools across town that are having other schools
    > donate their old books. the buildings are starting to fall down, and the
    > teachers are having to use part of their salaries to bring needed items to
    > teach with. they offer the very basic curriculum, and if you're in the special
    > education system, they've pretty much lumped them all together in one room to
    > teach them how to cook as their life skill after they graduate.

    oh... this is terrible...

    it seems most of our public educational system...
    >
    > > In Brazil probably 199/200 of the populatin never heard about
    > > Sartre - but those obsessed by France normally are like that
    > > because they have some humanist references.
    >
    > > I remeber I liked Italy and everybody always says marvelous
    > > things about it, that they are a affectionate people and so on,
    > > but my father went there recently and hated italians. He said
    > > marvelous things about greeks and germans (who I always thought
    > > were cold).
    >
    > > hehehe... really nice...
    >
    > who knows? every time i go somewhere, people are not what other people say
    > they are.

    it's difficult to talk about the characteristics of a whole people, isn`t it?

    people are so different everywhere.

    Sometimes I feel I am nearer of somebody in Austin than somebody in my own building...

    hey, don`t be offended!

    >
    > > anyway, it seems that european people use to take less baths
    > > than americans and brazilians. There are even researches about
    > > it!
    >
    > i love taking baths.

    me too. But sometimes I have to chose between sleeping and taking a bath...

    hey, this shangri-las song I am hearing now is great!

    >
    > > which group are you talking about? the one from your trip?
    >
    > no, this was the guy from a couple of months ago.

    hey, did you tell me something about him?
    >
    > > weel, but this doesn`t signifie at all that every guy in the
    > > world will think the same way about you.
    >
    > right. i was hit on quite a bunch overseas. mostly by these scary looking
    > dudes, however....
    >
    > ....like this one late 50ish guy from Belfast when I was in Paris...wins the
    > creep of the year award.

    there are bad men all around the world... and I hope good ones too.

    >
    > > anyway, you are much nearer him than me. so if you meet him tell
    > > him I like him so much!
    >
    > > sorry... this was stupid :)
    >
    > *sigh* you know it doesn't do you any good. Being married and in Brazil makes
    > you even more useless than Morrissey.

    oh... je peux te servir pour te faire pratiquer le français... :)))

    >
    > > these two people are you and your friend from English, isn`t it?
    > > and what's "rare pub hopping" is?
    >
    > it's when you rarely go to pubs.

    oh yeah - that's me!

    >
    > i guess what i mean is that it's good for social occasions that pop up once
    > every eon.

    why?

    >
    > > it's 4:23 now. I don`t know if my wife wants me out of bed early
    > > or not tomorrow... well, today...
    >
    > heh. i don't have anyone here to kick me out of bed.

    well, 4:14 now. And I have to wake up 8:30 tomorrow.

    It's better than my recent mean!

    >
     
  4. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    not familiar with them, Fabreeze....

    > this is good, don`t you think?

    that depends.

    > :)

    > And now, how do you are?

    i believe that i can think again.

    but i'm now on a weird cooking spree. i want to enroll in the Cordon Bleu for the hell of it. The truffels went great. Now, I want to try kolaches.

    > I think you are simply stressed because of your trip, and this
    > is completely normal, you see?

    > You had lots of new experiences, you lost your cds, your routine
    > changed completely for some days. It's natural you can't
    > concentrate on anything.

    no, usually when I come back from trips, i'm on a endorphin high for about a week after.

    > Talking about concentration, I had my 3rd English class today.
    > My teacher is a huge fan of U2, and he passed all the class
    > talking about the show she saw in São Paulo 2 years ago (U2 is
    > in Brazil now again because they want "thank our
    > country" one marvelous show they did in São Paulo...)

    my sister saw them once. she became an instant fan for a while.

    > Of course I told her about my Morrissey show.

    > A good class indeed!

    > Talking about Bono and Morrissey, have you seen passage of the
    > Novello Awards where both hugged each other so carefully? I told
    > my teacher I would send the mpeg archive to hers.

    i never saw this. where is it?

    > It seems that Morrissey really loves Bono Vox!

    > heheh... perhaps this is why nobody understand people from
    > Texas! :)

    nobody? i understand me!

    > and we both have Files-X!

    with no more Muldar! Robert Patrick is the new guy.

    > yeah - this is always terrible.

    > I know he made some of the worst songs ever, like Nikitta and
    > you have to love someone (or something like that).

    > But he had some great ballads, don`t you think?

    a few before he went really syrupy with the Lion King.

    > Anyway, the guy seems to be one of the most idiots of this
    > business. Have you seen the process where he said he bought to
    > himself tons of flowers by year? Just an idiot do it. And he is
    > almost bankrupt.

    what a way to go.

    > oh you should know the brazilian people who sang in disney`s
    > more recent film: ivan lins, daniela mercury and ed motta. Blech
    > again.

    they intentionally chose those sorts of people. it's not like they have Ozzy Osbourne singing "a whole new world"

    > Oh, I had this problem with a boss too. This stressed me really
    > much. She and her friends made dishonest pressure against me
    > during months. Even one of my best friends made terrible
    > pressures against me.

    i live in my ivory tower. nothing bothers me after 6 PM.

    > I can`t exagerated the pain, you know.

    > hehehe...

    > it's the only one they've mede, haven`t they?

    it's just that i've mentioned this album around here more than once and you've never said anything about eno or cale.

    > Well, I liked so much "before and after science" from
    > eno; "low", from david bowie with eno producing; the
    > first two roxy music albuns; and "songs for drella"
    > from reed/cale; and all the velvet stuff.

    > I just expected too much from this album perhaps... i considered
    > it so... pop!

    i loved it!

    > Well, I'm sure if I'll hear again before sending it to you I'll
    > like it!

    no, please don't send it. I hate to be a snob about these things, but tape copies are practically useless to me. that, and i prefer in some cases to have a really good first print. just like i plan to replace my moz stuff with the correct things.

    > or perhaps not... :)

    > oh great. I just have to fix my cd recorder. The things the guy
    > said to me really didn`t work. He has to come here.

    > well, i'm not single and things passes almost like this with my
    > car...

    > but if you have a daughter... again you can`t organize your
    > house... :)

    if I had anything more to add to my list of things to do, i would die. i know what people say about finding a mate to help out, but lets be honest. most guys don't help with anything. i've seen it too often that after they both come home from work, she is automatically given the task of fixing dinner and taking care of the kid. that kind of existance is very boring, lonely, and monotonous. and then, what if they decide to run off in a couple of years and you are stuck by yourself?

    i guess most people have more faith in others than I do.

    > changing the subject... have you ever hear shangri-las? (i think
    > i've asked you) I am hearing now. I think you would like it!

    > but "the leader of the pack" sucks!

    oh THEM. yes that one song.

    > Me and Johnny Marr can`t understand why this song is their
    > biggest success!

    > mine are at work...

    > I see... but i think with heroin and crack users the thing is
    > different, don`t you think?

    > yeah... i understand...

    > I like math... i should live at States! :)

    > in Brazil only lawyers have chance.

    same here.

    > and some people who works with computers of course...

    > but these elementary schools are for rich students in general?

    pretty much. not that they keep people out, but housing prices and where the district lines are drawn help determine who goes to what school.

    > oh... this is terrible...

    > it seems most of our public educational system...

    > it's difficult to talk about the characteristics of a whole
    > people, isn`t it?

    it gets harder and harder all the time. i get offended when the news shrinks it down into nothing.

    > people are so different everywhere.

    > Sometimes I feel I am nearer of somebody in Austin than somebody
    > in my own building...

    do i know them?

    > hey, don`t be offended!

    > me too. But sometimes I have to chose between sleeping and
    > taking a bath...

    i can have both.

    > hey, this shangri-las song I am hearing now is great!

    > hey, did you tell me something about him?

    do you need to know? he's a good guy, and not bad looking.

    > there are bad men all around the world... and I hope good ones
    > too.

    > oh... je peux te servir pour te faire pratiquer le français...
    > :)))

    non.

    > oh yeah - that's me!

    > why?

    > well, 4:14 now. And I have to wake up 8:30 tomorrow.

    > It's better than my recent mean!

    i have to get up earlier tomorrow because of stupid reports, and then to have my car taken in for 2 days while they install a brand new dashboard. i will be car-less.

    i can't believe they did all that just to get some dinky stereo they could probably get at most $50 for. I can't imagine they can sell the CDs because they have no jewel cases, and the cell phone is a complete dinosaur, but my means of communication should my car break down by the road at 4 in the morning.

    i hope they're happy.
     
  5. Fabricio

    Fabricio Guest

    Re: not familiar with them, Fabreeze....

    Fabreeze.... ??? :)

    >
    > > this is good, don`t you think?
    >
    > that depends.

    what?

    >
    > > :)
    >
    > > And now, how do you are?
    >
    > i believe that i can think again.
    >
    > but i'm now on a weird cooking spree. i want to enroll in the Cordon Bleu for
    > the hell of it. The truffels went great. Now, I want to try kolaches.

    oh yeah...

    interesting thing I have never been interested in cooking or something like that. I
    think it's strange when I woman begin to be interested in it. Perhaps because my mother
    simply aren't. for the best and for the worst, she is a kind of model to me.

    >
    > > I think you are simply stressed because of your trip, and this
    > > is completely normal, you see?
    >
    > > You had lots of new experiences, you lost your cds, your routine
    > > changed completely for some days. It's natural you can't
    > > concentrate on anything.
    >
    > no, usually when I come back from trips, i'm on a endorphin high for about a
    > week after.

    well, for me it's much easier to understand your new reaction, because trips tiring me
    so much.

    >
    > > Talking about concentration, I had my 3rd English class today.
    > > My teacher is a huge fan of U2, and he passed all the class
    > > talking about the show she saw in São Paulo 2 years ago (U2 is
    > > in Brazil now again because they want "thank our
    > > country" one marvelous show they did in São Paulo...)
    >
    > my sister saw them once. she became an instant fan for a while.
    >
    >
    > > Talking about Bono and Morrissey, have you seen passage of the
    > > Novello Awards where both hugged each other so carefully? I told
    > > my teacher I would send the mpeg archive to hers.
    >
    > i never saw this. where is it?

    in Morrissey-solo, I think. Do you want I send you?

    oh no...

    >
    > > It seems that Morrissey really loves Bono Vox!
    >
    > > heheh... perhaps this is why nobody understand people from
    > > Texas! :)
    >
    > nobody? i understand me!

    I told you about the Congress I went and when I heard people from Texas speaking, didn`t
    I?

    >
    > > and we both have Files-X!
    >
    > with no more Muldar! Robert Patrick is the new guy.

    But doesn`t he appear in half of the episodes?

    >
    > > yeah - this is always terrible.
    >
    > > I know he made some of the worst songs ever, like Nikitta and
    > > you have to love someone (or something like that).
    >
    > > But he had some great ballads, don`t you think?
    >
    > a few before he went really syrupy with the Lion King.

    Oh, I think his public image became horrible and today he sold some of his clothes for
    charity.

    Image is everything...

    >
    > > Anyway, the guy seems to be one of the most idiots of this
    > > business. Have you seen the process where he said he bought to
    > > himself tons of flowers by year? Just an idiot do it. And he is
    > > almost bankrupt.
    >
    > what a way to go.

    If Morrissey did something like that would you still be a fan?

    I don`t know if I would.

    I simply can't imagine Morrissey being so silly.

    >
    > > oh you should know the brazilian people who sang in disney`s
    > > more recent film: ivan lins, daniela mercury and ed motta. Blech
    > > again.
    >
    > they intentionally chose those sorts of people. it's not like they have Ozzy
    > Osbourne singing "a whole new world"

    yes.

    But I think my daughter would like to see him in a film or something. She is crazy about
    terror movies.

    >
    > > Oh, I had this problem with a boss too. This stressed me really
    > > much. She and her friends made dishonest pressure against me
    > > during months. Even one of my best friends made terrible
    > > pressures against me.
    >
    > i live in my ivory tower. nothing bothers me after 6 PM.

    I think I've lost something... why are you saying that?

    >
    > > I can`t exagerated the pain, you know.
    >
    > > hehehe...
    >
    > > it's the only one they've mede, haven`t they?
    >
    > it's just that i've mentioned this album around here more than once and you've
    > never said anything about eno or cale.

    yes...

    you see? I had not much things to say anyway...

    >
    > > Well, I liked so much "before and after science" from
    > > eno; "low", from david bowie with eno producing; the
    > > first two roxy music albuns; and "songs for drella"
    > > from reed/cale; and all the velvet stuff.
    >
    > > I just expected too much from this album perhaps... i considered
    > > it so... pop!
    >
    > i loved it!

    I definetly have to hear it again.

    And find it for sure.

    My daughter made a terrible mess with my cassettes... :)

    Well, yesterday I was so happy in hearing Shangri-las, as you perhaps have perceived.

    Now I am recording a Wagner LP to a friend.

    Wagner is so horrible... argh! I understand why Hitler loved him that much.

    >
    > > Well, I'm sure if I'll hear again before sending it to you I'll
    > > like it!
    >
    > no, please don't send it. I hate to be a snob about these things, but tape
    > copies are practically useless to me. that, and i prefer in some cases to have
    > a really good first print. just like i plan to replace my moz stuff with the
    > correct things.

    ok then.

    I understand you.

    >
    > > or perhaps not... :)
    >
    > > oh great. I just have to fix my cd recorder. The things the guy
    > > said to me really didn`t work. He has to come here.
    >
    > > well, i'm not single and things passes almost like this with my
    > > car...
    >
    > > but if you have a daughter... again you can`t organize your
    > > house... :)
    >
    > if I had anything more to add to my list of things to do, i would die. i know
    > what people say about finding a mate to help out, but lets be honest. most
    > guys don't help with anything. i've seen it too often that after they both
    > come home from work, she is automatically given the task of fixing dinner and
    > taking care of the kid. that kind of existance is very boring, lonely, and
    > monotonous. and then, what if they decide to run off in a couple of years and
    > you are stuck by yourself?

    but have you seen some good guys who do everything to help their wifes? There are some
    like that I know.

    I could include myself in this list, but my wife had to say this, and not me.

    >
    > i guess most people have more faith in others than I do.

    I see...

    This perhaps makes part of your charm.

    >
    > > changing the subject... have you ever hear shangri-las? (i think
    > > i've asked you) I am hearing now. I think you would like it!
    >
    > > but "the leader of the pack" sucks!
    >
    > oh THEM. yes that one song.

    do you know it?

    >
    > > Me and Johnny Marr can`t understand why this song is their
    > > biggest success!
    >
    > > mine are at work...
    >
    > > I see... but i think with heroin and crack users the thing is
    > > different, don`t you think?
    >
    > > yeah... i understand...
    >
    > > I like math... i should live at States! :)
    >
    > > in Brazil only lawyers have chance.
    >
    > same here.

    this is the bad side of democracies. When Brazil was a dictatorship lawyers had no
    chance at all.

    Well, the second phrase is correct, but I was kidding in the first one.

    >
    > > and some people who works with computers of course...
    >
    > > but these elementary schools are for rich students in general?
    >
    > pretty much. not that they keep people out, but housing prices and where the
    > district lines are drawn help determine who goes to what school.

    yes, nobody wants to do a 2-hour trip to go to primary school.

    >
    > > oh... this is terrible...
    >
    > > it seems most of our public educational system...
    >
    > > it's difficult to talk about the characteristics of a whole
    > > people, isn`t it?
    >
    > it gets harder and harder all the time. i get offended when the news shrinks
    > it down into nothing.

    sorry, but why did you say that?

    >
    > > people are so different everywhere.
    >
    > > Sometimes I feel I am nearer of somebody in Austin than somebody
    > > in my own building...
    >
    > do i know them?

    pretty much...

    >
    > > hey, don`t be offended!
    >
    > > me too. But sometimes I have to chose between sleeping and
    > > taking a bath...
    >
    > i can have both.

    I had to be this way. Perhaps after 70 years old, I don`t know...

    >
    > > hey, this shangri-las song I am hearing now is great!
    >
    > > hey, did you tell me something about him?
    >
    > do you need to know? he's a good guy, and not bad looking.

    I always need to know the things you want to tell me.

    >
    > > there are bad men all around the world... and I hope good ones
    > > too.
    >
    > > oh... je peux te servir pour te faire pratiquer le français...
    > > :)))
    >
    > non.

    oh, sorry.

    >
    > > oh yeah - that's me!
    >
    > > why?
    >
    > > well, 4:14 now. And I have to wake up 8:30 tomorrow.
    >
    > > It's better than my recent mean!
    >
    > i have to get up earlier tomorrow because of stupid reports, and then to have
    > my car taken in for 2 days while they install a brand new dashboard. i will be
    > car-less.

    I am a pratically car-less.

    I love to go to places by bus - I read in an interview that people from Belle and
    Sebastian are just the same.

    Well, now i am recording a Bach lieder LP! I can breathe again... :)

    Is 3:48 am but I slept during 2 hours before I came here... and I have to take a bath
    tomorrow, so I have to wake up some minutes earlier... :)

    >
    > i can't believe they did all that just to get some dinky stereo they could
    > probably get at most $50 for.

    yes, as I told you, it's difficult to imagine why somebody did a thing like that.

    > I can't imagine they can sell the CDs because
    > they have no jewel cases, and the cell phone is a complete dinosaur,

    did they robbed your cell phone?

    > but my
    > means of communication should my car break down by the road at 4 in the
    > morning.
    >
    > i hope they're happy.

    you see? I don't.
     
  6. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    Re: not familiar with them, Fabreeze....

    > Fabreeze.... ??? :)

    I meant, "Febreeze" like the laundry softener.

    > what?

    > oh yeah...

    > interesting thing I have never been interested in cooking or
    > something like that. I
    > think it's strange when I woman begin to be interested in it.
    > Perhaps because my mother
    > simply aren't. for the best and for the worst, she is a kind of
    > model to me.

    Mostly I'm not, but there are two different kinds of cooking for me.

    97% of the time, it's heating up pre-cooked food. I don't care how it tastes as long as I can eat it.
    03% of the time, i'll actually devote time to making something that i really want to taste good.

    > well, for me it's much easier to understand your new reaction,
    > because trips tiring me
    > so much.

    Not for me. They wake me up out of the boring routine I'm in. I have lots of energy and I feel normal.

    I think the best thing was this time around, I had a much easier time raporting with the locals.

    > in Morrissey-solo, I think. Do you want I send you?

    > oh no...

    if it's here, where is it?

    > I told you about the Congress I went and when I heard people
    > from Texas speaking, didn`t
    > I?

    um, i think. that was a long time ago.

    > But doesn`t he appear in half of the episodes?

    he appears in some bits being probed by the aliens and such, but I didn't even see him on last sunday's.

    > Oh, I think his public image became horrible and today he sold
    > some of his clothes for
    > charity.

    after singing that song for Diana? are you sure?

    > Image is everything...

    > If Morrissey did something like that would you still be a fan?

    > I don`t know if I would.

    > I simply can't imagine Morrissey being so silly.

    I can't believe you were actually questioning it! That's a first for you.

    Morrissey is a silly guy. I could see him plunking down money on some flowers.

    > yes.

    > But I think my daughter would like to see him in a film or
    > something. She is crazy about
    > terror movies.

    > I think I've lost something... why are you saying that?

    > yes...

    > you see? I had not much things to say anyway...

    > I definetly have to hear it again.

    > And find it for sure.

    > My daughter made a terrible mess with my cassettes... :)

    > Well, yesterday I was so happy in hearing Shangri-las, as you
    > perhaps have perceived.

    > Now I am recording a Wagner LP to a friend.

    > Wagner is so horrible... argh! I understand why Hitler loved him
    > that much.

    > ok then.

    > I understand you.

    just think of the postage you will be saving. It's not so bad.

    > but have you seen some good guys who do everything to help their
    > wifes? There are some
    > like that I know.

    most of the guys who see themselves that way generally aren't. they could do certain things, but they usually slip up on other things like clinging too much to their wives and not letting them out of the house.

    I don't know. Most girls I know in relationships just seem overly spent in some area. There is some expectation to sacrifice things just to keep it going. Some girls are broke from paying off thei guy's bills. Some are tired because even after working 40 hours, she is expected to do all the laundry and cooking while he piles up on the couch and watches TV. Some girls have lost most of their friends because their boyfriend eats up so much of their time and he underhandedly demands that she give up her friends.

    Frankly, I don't know a whole lot of girls who have come out a winner. Yet they are so lonely and can't find anyone else, so they stay.

    I hate the meat market too. I hate being treated in a generic way by some guy, and I hate that because they see you standing there alone (even if you are waiting for someone) and even if you don't give any physical sign that you want them to join you, that you are obviously single and want their company.

    I mean, what if I wasn't single? What if my boyfriend decided to stay home? What if I was single and thought they were ugly?

    > I could include myself in this list, but my wife had to say
    > this, and not me.

    > I see...

    > This perhaps makes part of your charm.

    i think it works better for me in most cases than not.

    > do you know it?

    > this is the bad side of democracies. When Brazil was a
    > dictatorship lawyers had no
    > chance at all.

    > Well, the second phrase is correct, but I was kidding in the
    > first one.

    > yes, nobody wants to do a 2-hour trip to go to primary school.

    some supposedly do it. but sometimes, it's not a 2 hour trip. I could have gotten to the other highschool in town in about 20 minutes....which is not a long drive in america, trust me.

    > sorry, but why did you say that?

    i dont' know.

    > pretty much...

    > I had to be this way. Perhaps after 70 years old, I don`t
    > know...

    > I always need to know the things you want to tell me.

    > oh, sorry.

    > I am a pratically car-less.

    > I love to go to places by bus - I read in an interview that
    > people from Belle and
    > Sebastian are just the same.

    I do like the bus in many circumstances, but getting to work is so down to the wire for me because I have a hard time getting up in the morning. that, and most of the places are far away from where I live. It would take some manuvering to get there.

    > Well, now i am recording a Bach lieder LP! I can breathe
    > again... :)

    > Is 3:48 am but I slept during 2 hours before I came here... and
    > I have to take a bath
    > tomorrow, so I have to wake up some minutes earlier... :)

    heh. I went salsa dancing. not that I chose it, but my friend did, and I didn't know that the point of going to see this band was to salsa dance. i have nothing against that sort of music, as i like it OK, but I just felt like sitting there and watching. with that band and venue in particular, it was a horrible meat market because the crowd they attract, in my opinion, are a bunch of frat boy losers in their college state, their yuppie state, and their old guy only wanting to dance with the 19 year old girls state.

    > yes, as I told you, it's difficult to imagine why somebody did a
    > thing like that.

    > did they robbed your cell phone?

    sort of. it was given to me by my parents in case my car ever decided to break down at 3 aM and I'm in the boonies or something.

    > you see? I don't.

    sarcasm.

    i imagine that after going through my CDs and noting that none of them are anything they would listen to, and figuring out they would have to spend more money buying jewel cases than they would make in profit for selling them, I'm sure they're in a trashcan somewhere.

    If you hate them, at least return them to where you found them.
     
  7. Fabricio

    Fabricio Guest

    Re: not familiar with them, Fabreeze....

    >
    > > Fabreeze.... ??? :)
    >
    > I meant, "Febreeze" like the laundry softener.

    well, laundry softners have some relation to me? :)

    >
    > > what?
    >
    > > oh yeah...
    >
    > > interesting thing I have never been interested in cooking or
    > > something like that. I
    > > think it's strange when I woman begin to be interested in it.
    > > Perhaps because my mother
    > > simply aren't. for the best and for the worst, she is a kind of
    > > model to me.
    >
    > Mostly I'm not, but there are two different kinds of cooking for me.
    >
    > 97% of the time, it's heating up pre-cooked food. I don't care how it tastes
    > as long as I can eat it.

    but are you some kind of gourmet or something?

    I'm not for sure!

    I usually like pre-cooked food... :)

    > 03% of the time, i'll actually devote time to making something that i really
    > want to taste good.

    this is good. It seems to be some kind of therapy, isn`t it?

    >
    > > well, for me it's much easier to understand your new reaction,
    > > because trips tiring me
    > > so much.
    >
    > Not for me. They wake me up out of the boring routine I'm in. I have lots of
    > energy and I feel normal.

    and how do you feel now?

    you seemed in a better mood when you wrote this post.

    >
    > I think the best thing was this time around, I had a much easier time
    > raporting with the locals.
    >
    > > in Morrissey-solo, I think. Do you want I send you?
    >
    > > oh no...
    >
    > if it's here, where is it?

    well, i'm not that sure I've got it here anymore...

    ... well, I just don`t know where I've got it!

    well, it's a little less than 1.0 Mb - it'll be easy for me to send you.

    >
    > > I told you about the Congress I went and when I heard people
    > > from Texas speaking, didn`t
    > > I?
    >
    > um, i think. that was a long time ago.

    yes, when people from Texas or New Zealand or Australia came to speech I immediately
    caught my earphones to hear the simultaneous translation :)

    >
    > > But doesn`t he appear in half of the episodes?
    >
    > he appears in some bits being probed by the aliens and such, but I didn't even
    > see him on last sunday's.

    this is sad - I didn't like him in the begining, but he is the soul of Files-X (even if
    Gillian Anderson is such a wonderful woman.)
    >
    > > Oh, I think his public image became horrible and today he sold
    > > some of his clothes for
    > > charity.
    >
    > after singing that song for Diana? are you sure?

    I'm sure. I watched it on TV just before I came here to write.

    >
    > > Image is everything...
    >
    > > If Morrissey did something like that would you still be a fan?
    >
    > > I don`t know if I would.
    >
    > > I simply can't imagine Morrissey being so silly.
    >
    > I can't believe you were actually questioning it! That's a first for you.

    why? I always defend him! :)

    >
    > Morrissey is a silly guy. I could see him plunking down money on some flowers.

    I was impressed by a recent interview where he said he cooked at home or something like
    that to not spend too much money.

    He seems to be a very mature guy to me... don't you agree?

    > > ok then.
    >
    > > I understand you.
    >
    > just think of the postage you will be saving. It's not so bad.

    oh, are you consoling me? :)

    if so, thank you.

    >
    > > but have you seen some good guys who do everything to help their
    > > wifes? There are some
    > > like that I know.
    >
    > most of the guys who see themselves that way generally aren't. they could do
    > certain things, but they usually slip up on other things like clinging too
    > much to their wives and not letting them out of the house.

    do women in USA normally more independent than men?

    you see, I always hear stories where the woman doesn`t let the guy out of the house.

    >
    > I don't know. Most girls I know in relationships just seem overly spent in
    > some area. There is some expectation to sacrifice things just to keep it
    > going.

    There's always some sacrifice in these kind of relationships - but both have to do their
    (equally balanced)
    part!

    > Some girls are broke from paying off thei guy's bills.

    Really?

    Perhaps our society is more machist than yours, but I think this is not that common
    here.

    But I know some guys who broke because of their wives.... :)

    > Some are tired
    > because even after working 40 hours, she is expected to do all the laundry and
    > cooking while he piles up on the couch and watches TV.

    Yes, this is frequent and this is the bigger injustice towards women, and that even
    surpasses others.

    > Some girls have lost
    > most of their friends because their boyfriend eats up so much of their time
    > and he underhandedly demands that she give up her friends.

    >
    > Frankly, I don't know a whole lot of girls who have come out a winner. Yet
    > they are so lonely and can't find anyone else, so they stay.

    But sometimes it's a heavy weight on men's shoulders to be a winner don`t you think?

    >
    > I hate the meat market too. I hate being treated in a generic way by some guy,
    > and I hate that because they see you standing there alone (even if you are
    > waiting for someone) and even if you don't give any physical sign that you
    > want them to join you, that you are obviously single and want their company.
    >
    > I mean, what if I wasn't single? What if my boyfriend decided to stay home?
    > What if I was single and thought they were ugly?

    and sometimes even if you make clear signs you don`t want their company they insist in
    being with you, don't they?

    Well, I know most men are like that and this is awful.... this may have to do with some
    animal instinct - what doesn`t justify their attitudes at all, of course.

    Well.. but I know I was wrong but when I was younger I secretly envied these kind of
    men,
    because I was too shy to make contact with somebody I didn`t know.

    Well, being more specific, even if the girl did clear signs she wanted my company I
    didn`t see it because of my panic... :)

    >
    >
    > > I could include myself in this list, but my wife had to say
    > > this, and not me.
    >
    > > I see...
    >
    > > This perhaps makes part of your charm.
    >
    > i think it works better for me in most cases than not.

    yeah! I couldn't agree more!

    >
    > > yes, nobody wants to do a 2-hour trip to go to primary school.
    >
    > some supposedly do it. but sometimes, it's not a 2 hour trip. I could have
    > gotten to the other highschool in town in about 20 minutes....

    this other highschool was better than the one you went to?

    >which is not a
    > long drive in america, trust me.

    20 minutes is not a long drive even for Curitiba! Some poor people have to do a 2-hour
    drive to go work.

    >
    > > sorry, but why did you say that?
    >
    > i dont' know.

    :)

    >
    > > I am a pratically car-less.
    >
    > > I love to go to places by bus - I read in an interview that
    > > people from Belle and
    > > Sebastian are just the same.
    >
    > I do like the bus in many circumstances, but getting to work is so down to the
    > wire for me because I have a hard time getting up in the morning. that, and
    > most of the places are far away from where I live. It would take some
    > manuvering to get there.

    I see.

    I don`t have this problem because I work with my father and I live very near from work.

    >
    > > Well, now i am recording a Bach lieder LP! I can breathe
    > > again... :)
    >
    > > Is 3:48 am but I slept during 2 hours before I came here... and
    > > I have to take a bath
    > > tomorrow, so I have to wake up some minutes earlier... :)

    ... and I lost my hour! I didn't take my bath! :)

    sorry - this was disgusting.

    >
    > heh. I went salsa dancing. not that I chose it, but my friend did, and I
    > didn't know that the point of going to see this band was to salsa dance. i
    > have nothing against that sort of music, as i like it OK, but I just felt like
    > sitting there and watching.

    do you like to dance?

    I don't, and I have terrible problems because these kind of dances like samba or salsa
    simply don`t attract me to. I simply can't feel at ease if I don't like the songs
    played.

    > with that band and venue in particular, it was a
    > horrible meat market because the crowd they attract, in my opinion, are a
    > bunch of frat boy losers in their college state, their yuppie state, and their
    > old guy only wanting to dance with the 19 year old girls state.

    I can't understand why so many older men like 19 or less year old girls.

    >
    > > yes, as I told you, it's difficult to imagine why somebody did a
    > > thing like that.
    >
    > > did they robbed your cell phone?
    >
    > sort of. it was given to me by my parents in case my car ever decided to break
    > down at 3 aM and I'm in the boonies or something.
    >

    but did you use it in other occasions too?

    > > you see? I don't.
    >
    > sarcasm.

    I see. But I felt for you. I didn't think it was correct to be sarcastic too.

    >
    > i imagine that after going through my CDs and noting that none of them are
    > anything they would listen to, and figuring out they would have to spend more
    > money buying jewel cases than they would make in profit for selling them, I'm
    > sure they're in a trashcan somewhere.

    I have imagined that to.

    And they have such a value for you.

    >
    > If you hate them, at least return them to where you found them.

    they could send it to the post office or something like that.
     
  8. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    Re: not familiar with them, Fabreeze....

    > well, laundry softners have some relation to me? :)

    just that your name sounds similar to one

    > but are you some kind of gourmet or something?

    right now?

    i just came in from being out and am starving. at 2 AM, i made instant pancakes, polished off the entire plate, and i'm still hungry.

    i'm also cold from sitting outside. i have the heater on full blast.

    > I'm not for sure!

    > I usually like pre-cooked food... :)

    mm. yes, it's so much easier to deal with. sometimes, you come across some really tasty ones

    > this is good. It seems to be some kind of therapy, isn`t it?

    > and how do you feel now?

    > you seemed in a better mood when you wrote this post.

    i have my pictures back. very thrilled, but even though I took about 3 rolls worth, there seems to be something missing. i felt like i got too many tourist shots and not enough personality.

    > well, i'm not that sure I've got it here anymore...

    > ... well, I just don`t know where I've got it!

    > well, it's a little less than 1.0 Mb - it'll be easy for me to
    > send you.

    > yes, when people from Texas or New Zealand or Australia came to
    > speech I immediately
    > caught my earphones to hear the simultaneous translation :)

    > this is sad - I didn't like him in the begining, but he is the
    > soul of Files-X (even if
    > Gillian Anderson is such a wonderful woman.)

    i like him too. he's very nice to look at.

    a friend of mine and i are holding out on Robert Patrick until we can see what he looks like in jeans. there is a general consensus that Duchovny knows how to wear a pair of jeans.

    > I'm sure. I watched it on TV just before I came here to write.

    > why? I always defend him! :)

    > I was impressed by a recent interview where he said he cooked at
    > home or something like
    > that to not spend too much money.

    where did he say that?

    > He seems to be a very mature guy to me... don't you agree?

    that depends....

    > oh, are you consoling me? :)

    > if so, thank you.

    no need to get too upset that you don't need to spend loads of money on international postage.

    but your mix tape...reminds me what a good song Boxers is. i don't listen to world of Moz which contains that song because I really don't want to listen to a big chunk of that album.

    some of those songs are too much of a good thing.

    > do women in USA normally more independent than men?

    not really. as I said, there is still an expectation that the woman is going to give up things to have a family, and I don't mean spending less on going out to eat.

    actually, there is an expectation that she's not going to be very interested in doing much besides finding a guy and starting a family.

    > you see, I always hear stories where the woman doesn`t let the
    > guy out of the house.

    ha!

    > There's always some sacrifice in these kind of relationships -
    > but both have to do their
    > (equally balanced)
    > part!

    > Really?

    > Perhaps our society is more machist than yours, but I think this
    > is not that common
    > here.

    it's something relatively new. i have nothing against house husbands, and I think it's really cool in many cases but some of these guys, like many girls, are mooches.

    you see it on some talkshow where some guy admits to his girlfriend that he's been cheating and she gets angry saying, "I've paid your rent, I helped you get out of debt." and it's suddenly apparent why the guy is staying.

    > But I know some guys who broke because of their wives.... :)

    yeah, my uncle.

    > Yes, this is frequent and this is the bigger injustice towards
    > women, and that even
    > surpasses others.

    > But sometimes it's a heavy weight on men's shoulders to be a
    > winner don`t you think?

    i know and that creates so many problems.

    speaking of gender roles, i've decided the most useless form of science today is evolutionary theory. someone was telling me about their grand conclusions about why men and women do those cuckoo things they do, I just had to laugh. their theories are so full of holes because they completely ignore socialization and emotionality.

    like they start pointing out how rich ugly men get beautiful women and therefore, women are bred for their beauty, etc. first, you can't breed one gender in a certain way because all traits are passed on to their children regardless, second of all, even ugly poor guys are going to get laid eventually. you have not eliminated any of their traits from the gene pool. that, and success is not hereditary. what is considered beautiful is not locked in stone either. also, physical characteristics don't necessarily dictate how successful you are in getting dates. I think most men would take an OK looking girl who is lots of fun as opposed to a better looking girl who is boring.

    > and sometimes even if you make clear signs you don`t want their
    > company they insist in
    > being with you, don't they?

    not too often. i'm good at giving people the cold shoulder.

    > Well, I know most men are like that and this is awful.... this
    > may have to do with some
    > animal instinct - what doesn`t justify their attitudes at all,
    > of course.

    > Well.. but I know I was wrong but when I was younger I secretly
    > envied these kind of
    > men,
    > because I was too shy to make contact with somebody I didn`t
    > know.

    > Well, being more specific, even if the girl did clear signs she
    > wanted my company I
    > didn`t see it because of my panic... :)

    > yeah! I couldn't agree more!

    > this other highschool was better than the one you went to?

    no, i went to the one closest to my house, but I did have the option of going to the other one.

    as far as curriculum, yes the other school was better. they had more classes, and more options.

    > 20 minutes is not a long drive even for Curitiba! Some poor
    > people have to do a 2-hour
    > drive to go work.

    > :)

    > I see.

    > I don`t have this problem because I work with my father and I
    > live very near from work.

    > ... and I lost my hour! I didn't take my bath! :)

    > sorry - this was disgusting.

    > do you like to dance?

    it's OK. it depends on how self conscious I'm feeling.

    > I don't, and I have terrible problems because these kind of
    > dances like samba or salsa
    > simply don`t attract me to. I simply can't feel at ease if I
    > don't like the songs
    > played.

    > I can't understand why so many older men like 19 or less year
    > old girls.

    it's really sad if that's all they go for. i would understand if there was some meeting of the minds, but most of the time, it's just some guy being proud of himself that he can get a 19 year old.

    > but did you use it in other occasions too?

    no. the way the phone worked, it didn't have a battery pack. it only had a connector to get power from the cigarette lighter.

    but really, i have no use for cell phones. my normal phone goes without ringing quite a bit.

    > I see. But I felt for you. I didn't think it was correct to be
    > sarcastic too.

    what's wrong with sarcasm?

    > I have imagined that to.

    > And they have such a value for you.

    > they could send it to the post office or something like that.

    um, they wouldn't know where to mail it.

    they know where my car is....

    this is sad. i've now finished off pancakes AND left-over mac 'n cheese and i'm still hungry.
     
  9. Fabricio

    Fabricio Guest

    Re: not familiar with them, Fabreeze....

    Hello Suzanne,

    Last Friday I bought several promotion cds of some brazilian kitsch singers. This is my last phase, you know? :) Since I was a kid I've been having this deep phases...

    Now I am hearing a very ridiculous old singer called Waldick Soriano... it's so funny! These kind of music makes me really in a good mood.

    If I had courage I would send you a cd just with this kind of music... but probably you wouldn't like it... :)

    anyway... well, if you are interested... :)

    oh no...

    > just that your name sounds similar to one

    which name is?

    > right now?

    i would like to know!

    > i just came in from being out and am starving. at 2 AM, i made
    > instant pancakes, polished off the entire plate, and i'm still
    > hungry.

    I know what are talking about.

    I lost around 5 kg the last two months. I pass the entire nights awakwe, without eating a thing. In the end you are not so affraid of being hungry anymore.

    But of course sometimes I think I could eat anything.

    > i'm also cold from sitting outside. i have the heater on full
    > blast.

    well, we are in one of the hotest months of the year (December) and Curitiba remains cold (15oC the minimum). Sometimes I want to move to hotter places.

    > mm. yes, it's so much easier to deal with. sometimes, you come
    > across some really tasty ones

    sometimes they are better than anything that could be made at home, isn't it?

    > i have my pictures back. very thrilled, but even though I took
    > about 3 rolls worth, there seems to be something missing. i felt
    > like i got too many tourist shots and not enough personality.

    when I was younger I thought that just landscape photos from trips should be taken... but post cards did it better than me, and then I concluded that the best thing is taking personal photos really...

    and no, i don`t have courage to ask you the scan of some of them, so I won`t ask you for it :)

    > i like him too. he's very nice to look at.

    I agree.

    This is really ridiculous but sometimes I think I look like him... Unfortunately nobody agrees with me :)

    Talking about whom I look like, a woman friend of mine I didn't seen for two months said me that I really look like Morrissey (I "presented" him to hers), because I am thinner and I have sideburns now :)

    > a friend of mine and i are holding out on Robert Patrick until
    > we can see what he looks like in jeans. there is a general
    > consensus that Duchovny knows how to wear a pair of jeans.

    I have never thought about it but it really makes sense.

    And I simply can't imagine Gillian Anderson wearing jeans.

    > where did he say that?

    in a recent interview... I'll try to find it to you.

    > that depends....

    it's an interesting subject indeed.

    > no need to get too upset that you don't need to spend loads of
    > money on international postage.

    it's not that expensive... :)

    ... and I like send things to you by post.

    > but your mix tape...reminds me what a good song Boxers is. i
    > don't listen to world of Moz which contains that song because I
    > really don't want to listen to a big chunk of that album.

    I understand. I don`t hear this album that much either.

    But someway Boxers is soo deep to me... and the lyrics are so sweet, and his voice is so sincere, so pure.

    > some of those songs are too much of a good thing.

    what a goodness...

    ...and of course you disliked some of them, don't you? everybody does. :)

    > not really. as I said, there is still an expectation that the
    > woman is going to give up things to have a family, and I don't
    > mean spending less on going out to eat.

    but do you think women give up more things than men to be married?

    > actually, there is an expectation that she's not going to be
    > very interested in doing much besides finding a guy and starting
    > a family.

    I've seen this, and I think this is really sad.

    It seems that the only thing feminism got in the end is to make women having two works: one at home and another outside it.

    > ha!

    and most men complain about their lack of freedom :)

    > it's something relatively new. i have nothing against house
    > husbands, and I think it's really cool in many cases but some of
    > these guys, like many girls, are mooches.

    > you see it on some talkshow where some guy admits to his
    > girlfriend that he's been cheating and she gets angry saying,
    > "I've paid your rent, I helped you get out of debt."
    > and it's suddenly apparent why the guy is staying.

    but you have to agree many women do the same. At least in Brazil things passes like that - they stay just because of men's money.

    > yeah, my uncle.

    I kind of understand him...

    > i know and that creates so many problems.

    > speaking of gender roles, i've decided the most useless form of
    > science today is evolutionary theory. someone was telling me
    > about their grand conclusions about why men and women do those
    > cuckoo things they do, I just had to laugh. their theories are
    > so full of holes because they completely ignore socialization
    > and emotionality.

    I agree completely on this point.

    They like to treat human beings as they were exactly equal to monkeys or dolphins. So why monkeys and dolphins can't send an e-mail?

    > like they start pointing out how rich ugly men get beautiful
    > women and therefore, women are bred for their beauty, etc.
    > first, you can't breed one gender in a certain way because all
    > traits are passed on to their children regardless, second of
    > all, even ugly poor guys are going to get laid eventually. you
    > have not eliminated any of their traits from the gene pool.
    > that, and success is not hereditary. what is considered
    > beautiful is not locked in stone either. also, physical
    > characteristics don't necessarily dictate how successful you are
    > in getting dates. I think most men would take an OK looking girl
    > who is lots of fun as opposed to a better looking girl who is
    > boring.

    I agree completely again, and I have little to add. And I remeber a test I saw at TV where a beautiful boring girl had much less success in one night than a fat and intelligent one.

    > not too often. i'm good at giving people the cold shoulder.

    i almost can see it... :)

    > no, i went to the one closest to my house, but I did have the
    > option of going to the other one.

    > as far as curriculum, yes the other school was better. they had
    > more classes, and more options.

    and do you think this made some real difference to you?

    I don't know, but I think primary schools are not so important if a person has a really desire to have success in schools later.

    Anyway, our access to Universities is completely different from yours as I know.

    You have to do just one test to enter in the University, and it doesn`t matter how was your school story.

    > it's OK. it depends on how self conscious I'm feeling.

    the less self conscious you dance the better? :)

    > it's really sad if that's all they go for. i would understand if
    > there was some meeting of the minds, but most of the time, it's
    > just some guy being proud of himself that he can get a 19 year
    > old.

    what revoltes me is that the older ones is so more interesting! But most men don`t like women with personality at all.

    > no. the way the phone worked, it didn't have a battery pack. it
    > only had a connector to get power from the cigarette lighter.

    > but really, i have no use for cell phones. my normal phone goes
    > without ringing quite a bit.

    do you like to speak at the telephone Suzanne?

    Oh, I hate it... :)

    > what's wrong with sarcasm?

    I'm normally not sarcastic at all, but I could be sarcastic if a sad thing happened to me.

    But not if this sad thing happened to you - it would seem I liked what happened to you.

    > um, they wouldn't know where to mail it.

    in Brazil if somebody finds another people's document he can send it to the mail, and then the thing would go to the central computer.

    Anyway, I don`t think if this is worth to cds...

    > they know where my car is....

    > this is sad. i've now finished off pancakes AND left-over mac 'n
    > cheese and i'm still hungry.

    this is really sad.

    And well, I am hungry too - as always, I have to add.
     
  10. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    another late night

    > Hello Suzanne,

    > Last Friday I bought several promotion cds of some brazilian
    > kitsch singers. This is my last phase, you know? :) Since I was
    > a kid I've been having this deep phases...

    > Now I am hearing a very ridiculous old singer called Waldick
    > Soriano... it's so funny! These kind of music makes me really in
    > a good mood.

    > If I had courage I would send you a cd just with this kind of
    > music... but probably you wouldn't like it... :)

    Fabricio, that might be nice, but I believe since I don't know portugeuse that it would be completely lost on me.

    > anyway... well, if you are interested... :)

    > oh no...

    > which name is?

    Fabricio
    Febreeze

    don't they look similar?

    > i would like to know!

    > I know what are talking about.

    > I lost around 5 kg the last two months. I pass the entire nights
    > awakwe, without eating a thing. In the end you are not so
    > affraid of being hungry anymore.

    > But of course sometimes I think I could eat anything.

    that's really bad. you know that you should not starve yourself because it can't go on forever. you'll eventually have to eat something.

    > well, we are in one of the hotest months of the year (December)
    > and Curitiba remains cold (15oC the minimum). Sometimes I want
    > to move to hotter places.

    i go through spells where I can't really tolerate the cold. i'm in one of them now. i have my robe on over my clothes and the heat turned up hotter than usual. my hands are like ice cubes. and it was worse because we sat outside last night, and most everyone seemed OK, but I felt horrible.

    > sometimes they are better than anything that could be made at
    > home, isn't it?

    yes, something that i'm willing to make at home...

    but i'm a decent cook when I want to be. for example, there is going to be a big party in the middle of January. They didn't even know the date, but it was already decided that I must bring spinach and artichoke dip.

    Generally, whatever I cook is usually finished off...and it usually is some form of junk food.

    > when I was younger I thought that just landscape photos from
    > trips should be taken... but post cards did it better than me,
    > and then I concluded that the best thing is taking personal
    > photos really...

    > and no, i don`t have courage to ask you the scan of some of
    > them, so I won`t ask you for it :)

    I'll have to post this in two parts, but one is the Oscar Wilde grave. I dont' know if you can see it, but the little dark spots all over the monument are lipstick traces where people kissed the monument.

    I don't know if I should mention that the figure on top had it's erm, onions and carrot (if you catch my drift) broken off.

    Then, the next is my representative postcard picture. I realized as I thumbed through that I got way too many pics of the eiffel tower and the seine.

    > I agree.

    > This is really ridiculous but sometimes I think I look like
    > him... Unfortunately nobody agrees with me :)

    > Talking about whom I look like, a woman friend of mine I didn't
    > seen for two months said me that I really look like Morrissey (I
    > "presented" him to hers), because I am thinner and I
    > have sideburns now :)

    > I have never thought about it but it really makes sense.

    > And I simply can't imagine Gillian Anderson wearing jeans.

    we weren't looking to see if she was wearing jeans, if you know what I mean....

    > in a recent interview... I'll try to find it to you.

    > it's an interesting subject indeed.

    > it's not that expensive... :)

    > ... and I like send things to you by post.

    > I understand. I don`t hear this album that much either.

    > But someway Boxers is soo deep to me... and the lyrics are so
    > sweet, and his voice is so sincere, so pure.

    > what a goodness...

    > ...and of course you disliked some of them, don't you? everybody
    > does. :)

    it's not bona drag, is it?

    I mean, I liked the album OK, but since I was a latecomer to Moz stuff, I had bought that album before I had a chance to build up the rest of my catalogue, and I began to note a line of repetition that could possibly destroy my listening experience of the other albums. It took me years to where I finally had ever proper studio album, minus the gray area ones like the Best of albums.

    Of course, I'm now missing Meat is Murder and Vauxhall.

    > but do you think women give up more things than men to be
    > married?

    hmm.

    now that I think about it, not exactly. but it depends, doesn't it? If she has pretty much sacrificed everything for years to sit by the phone and wait for some guy to call, then not really.

    Kind of like this study I heard about where in couples where one of the members is diabetic, if the woman is diabetic, she goes out of her way to fix a dish she can eat and another one for the guy that is normal, and if the guy is diabetic, then she will eat the same thing he is eating.

    It's a very small thing, but it says lots about what role men and women play in relationships.

    > I've seen this, and I think this is really sad.

    > It seems that the only thing feminism got in the end is to make
    > women having two works: one at home and another outside it.

    oh, i'm glad for it. I couldn't possibly imagine being married and having to stay at home all day.

    > and most men complain about their lack of freedom :)

    > but you have to agree many women do the same. At least in Brazil
    > things passes like that - they stay just because of men's money.

    i'm not saying it doesn't happen, because I'm all too familiar with the proliferation of women who want a guy with lots of money. I don't like them that much either. They're lazy.

    > I kind of understand him...

    > I agree completely on this point.

    > They like to treat human beings as they were exactly equal to
    > monkeys or dolphins. So why monkeys and dolphins can't send an
    > e-mail?

    some say it's the lack of opposable thumb.

    but I wonder what it would be like if orangutans started opening their own Gap stores. If evolution happens in the way it supposedly does, eventually something should catch up, right?

    > I agree completely again, and I have little to add. And I
    > remeber a test I saw at TV where a beautiful boring girl had
    > much less success in one night than a fat and intelligent one.

    I know. But these dumb theorists over simplify everything, and neglect to take into account expectation and peer pressure. A rich guy is assumed to be stupid if he didn't get the most beautiful girl he could find. What if he really wants a plain girl?

    > i almost can see it... :)

    > and do you think this made some real difference to you?

    it could have. it's like pee wee leagues vs. the NFL. I know that I probably had as much potential to do well in band competetions as many of these people from larger schools, but I was not blessed with band directors who knew how to play woodwind instruments.

    I remember seeing this really good highschool band at some event and I looked at the program, and it listed off all the names of the private instructors each instrument had. They had someone who was an expert at flute who would come in and sit down with all the flute players as a section and taught them the correct way how to play.

    It really showed when all the honor bands I participated in, that the big chunk of the other people were from large schools.

    > I don't know, but I think primary schools are not so important
    > if a person has a really desire to have success in schools
    > later.

    > Anyway, our access to Universities is completely different from
    > yours as I know.

    > You have to do just one test to enter in the University, and it
    > doesn`t matter how was your school story.

    but what do they teach you in school to get you ready?

    > the less self conscious you dance the better? :)

    i guess. i went out again tonight and saw this horrible band. i should have said no. I knew they were bad because I had seen them before.

    > what revoltes me is that the older ones is so more interesting!
    > But most men don`t like women with personality at all.

    Besides some imagined ideal about the innocence of these 19 year old girls, I don't see any other attraction. Not that 19 year old girls are dumb, but most of them are still living at home with their parents while this guy has been playing the field longer than these girls have been alive. I can't imagine him being interested in hearing about the prom that she went to the year before while he is dealing in Mutual Funds and worrying about his cholesterol count.

    > do you like to speak at the telephone Suzanne?

    > Oh, I hate it... :)

    I do, but I don't really do it that much anymore. There is no point. i have a car and go drive and see them.

    > I'm normally not sarcastic at all, but I could be sarcastic if a
    > sad thing happened to me.

    > But not if this sad thing happened to you - it would seem I
    > liked what happened to you.

    It's OK. Sarcasm is a normal thing. I use it all the time.

    > in Brazil if somebody finds another people's document he can
    > send it to the mail, and then the thing would go to the central
    > computer.

    but mine wouldn't have an address or any form of ID.

    > Anyway, I don`t think if this is worth to cds...

    > this is really sad.

    > And well, I am hungry too - as always, I have to add.
     
  11. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    i almost forgot....

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  12. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    Re: i almost forgot....

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  13. Fabricio

    Fabricio Guest

    Re: another late night

    >
    > > Hello Suzanne,
    >
    > > Last Friday I bought several promotion cds of some brazilian
    > > kitsch singers. This is my last phase, you know? :) Since I was
    > > a kid I've been having this deep phases...
    >
    > > Now I am hearing a very ridiculous old singer called Waldick
    > > Soriano... it's so funny! These kind of music makes me really in
    > > a good mood.
    >
    > > If I had courage I would send you a cd just with this kind of
    > > music... but probably you wouldn't like it... :)
    >
    > Fabricio, that might be nice, but I believe since I don't know portugeuse that
    > it would be completely lost on me.

    I just don't know... There's an incredible with an incredible low price double cd called "popular" (yes, the word is the same in portuguese) with fantastic trash and kitsch brazilian music. There are some songs where the singer sings compltely off-key :)-)) ) and the overall result may not be "cool" but is funny for sure, even if you don`t know portugues.

    But I'm affraid I am bothering you.

    Yes, perhaps I am.

    >
    > > anyway... well, if you are interested... :)
    >
    > > oh no...
    >
    > > which name is?
    >
    > Fabricio
    > Febreeze
    >
    > don't they look similar?

    oh yeah... Febreeze.

    I don`t know what I have thought because I didn`t understand that Febreeze was the laundry softner...

    >
    > > i would like to know!
    >
    > > I know what are talking about.
    >
    > > I lost around 5 kg the last two months. I pass the entire nights
    > > awakwe, without eating a thing. In the end you are not so
    > > affraid of being hungry anymore.
    >
    > > But of course sometimes I think I could eat anything.
    >
    > that's really bad. you know that you should not starve yourself because it
    > can't go on forever. you'll eventually have to eat something.

    oh for sure. I try to eat well on lunchs and dinners, because if i don`t do that I can`t bear my life.

    the thing is that I was so fat I'm feeling well eating less. I spend much less energy with the digestion process.

    >
    > > well, we are in one of the hotest months of the year (December)
    > > and Curitiba remains cold (15oC the minimum). Sometimes I want
    > > to move to hotter places.
    >
    > i go through spells where I can't really tolerate the cold. i'm in one of them
    > now. i have my robe on over my clothes and the heat turned up hotter than
    > usual. my hands are like ice cubes. and it was worse because we sat outside
    > last night, and most everyone seemed OK, but I felt horrible.

    oh poor Suzanne, I feel for you. How do you are now?

    Well, in Curitiba things are better now. We have a very humid hot weather, and I'm feeling ok. As I use to walk on the streets, I simply hate the cold that we have here.

    There was even a time where I had too much depressions... then I began to wrap myself up and my depressions began to pass... :)
    >
    > > sometimes they are better than anything that could be made at
    > > home, isn't it?
    >
    > yes, something that i'm willing to make at home...

    well, it depends if you cook well or not... Í don't cook at all, so normally things made outside are better than yhings made by me.

    >
    > but i'm a decent cook when I want to be. for example, there is going to be a
    > big party in the middle of January. They didn't even know the date, but it was
    > already decided that I must bring spinach and artichoke dip.

    mmm... it must be good...

    >
    > Generally, whatever I cook is usually finished off...and it usually is some
    > form of junk food.

    it means you a have a good "hand" to cook, isn`t it?

    That's the expression we use here.

    >
    > > when I was younger I thought that just landscape photos from
    > > trips should be taken... but post cards did it better than me,
    > > and then I concluded that the best thing is taking personal
    > > photos really...
    >
    > > and no, i don`t have courage to ask you the scan of some of
    > > them, so I won`t ask you for it :)
    >
    Thank you for the posts!

    > I'll have to post this in two parts, but one is the Oscar Wilde grave. I dont'
    > know if you can see it, but the little dark spots all over the monument are
    > lipstick traces where people kissed the monument.

    I didn't perceive it in the begining, and now I am really impressed by it.

    I don`t know why, but I was moved by this photo.

    >
    > I don't know if I should mention that the figure on top had it's erm, onions
    > and carrot (if you catch my drift) broken off.

    oh sorry I think I didn`t catch your drift but i am very curious about these onions and carrot... I didn`t see literally any of them in the photo...

    >
    > Then, the next is my representative postcard picture. I realized as I thumbed
    > through that I got way too many pics of the eiffel tower and the seine.

    your photo seems a little bit different from the usual angle, isn`t it? i liked it.

    I liked very much your photos...

    >
    >
    > > I have never thought about it but it really makes sense.
    >
    > > And I simply can't imagine Gillian Anderson wearing jeans.
    >
    > we weren't looking to see if she was wearing jeans, if you know what I
    > mean....

    hehehe... I know...

    >
    > > in a recent interview... I'll try to find it to you.
    >
    > > it's an interesting subject indeed.
    >
    > > it's not that expensive... :)
    >
    > > ... and I like send things to you by post.
    >
    > > I understand. I don`t hear this album that much either.
    >
    > > But someway Boxers is soo deep to me... and the lyrics are so
    > > sweet, and his voice is so sincere, so pure.
    >
    > > what a goodness...
    >
    > > ...and of course you disliked some of them, don't you? everybody
    > > does. :)
    >
    > it's not bona drag, is it?

    in fact I was talking about the cd I made to you... :)

    >
    > I mean, I liked the album OK, but since I was a latecomer to Moz stuff, I had
    > bought that album before I had a chance to build up the rest of my catalogue,
    > and I began to note a line of repetition that could possibly destroy my
    > listening experience of the other albums.

    the repetion of songs in Morrissey's cds is one of his weirdest sides, isn`t it?

    With time I began to think he makes this as a kind of joke (and I have to confess I this joke funny...)

    > It took me years to where I finally
    > had ever proper studio album, minus the gray area ones like the Best of
    > albums.

    it's a good thing that most american moz fans began to be it when morrissey was already in his solo career. Great part of brazilian moz fans knew them when he was in the smiths, and they use to be pedantic as most english moz fans. Weel, as for me, I began to buy Smiths cds since 1986 but I became a real fanatic circa 1992, when I began to understand his lyrics... so I am a little bit english / american type of fan at the same time.

    >
    > Of course, I'm now missing Meat is Murder and Vauxhall.

    this is sad, I know.

    >
    > > but do you think women give up more things than men to be
    > > married?
    >
    > hmm.
    >
    > now that I think about it, not exactly. but it depends, doesn't it? If she has
    > pretty much sacrificed everything for years to sit by the phone and wait for
    > some guy to call, then not really.

    heheh... I never thought about it...
    >
    > Kind of like this study I heard about where in couples where one of the
    > members is diabetic, if the woman is diabetic, she goes out of her way to fix
    > a dish she can eat and another one for the guy that is normal, and if the guy
    > is diabetic, then she will eat the same thing he is eating.
    >
    > It's a very small thing, but it says lots about what role men and women play
    > in relationships.

    I agree, but do you think this happen mostly just because women put themselves in an inferior position or this is a sign of how women act like mothers most of their times?

    When I watch my daughter feeding her dolls I think about her biological role in our world.

    > > I've seen this, and I think this is really sad.
    >
    > > It seems that the only thing feminism got in the end is to make
    > > women having two works: one at home and another outside it.
    >
    > oh, i'm glad for it. I couldn't possibly imagine being married and having to
    > stay at home all day.

    well, this is true but I am really surprised of how most women change after having children. They want to be with them most of time in general.

    >
    > > and most men complain about their lack of freedom :)
    >
    > > but you have to agree many women do the same. At least in Brazil
    > > things passes like that - they stay just because of men's money.
    >
    > i'm not saying it doesn't happen, because I'm all too familiar with the
    > proliferation of women who want a guy with lots of money. I don't like them
    > that much either. They're lazy.

    the women who want a guy with lots of money? I don`t like them either. I don`t like women that wants to stay at home waiting for their husband. They just seem mediocre to me.

    Again this is perhaps the image my mother put in my head of how a woman should be.

    My mother had to be correct in something, isn't it?
    >
    > > They like to treat human beings as they were exactly equal to
    > > monkeys or dolphins. So why monkeys and dolphins can't send an
    > > e-mail?
    >
    > some say it's the lack of opposable thumb.

    do you agree with them? I think this doesn`t explain anything.
    >
    > but I wonder what it would be like if orangutans started opening their own Gap
    > stores.

    something like "monkeys' planet" series would happen, isn`t it? this is the name of that old series in english?

    > If evolution happens in the way it supposedly does, eventually
    > something should catch up, right?

    I think I disagree. I don`t believe our life is based on random happenings.

    See the DNA for example. For everything I studied about random series, the DNA simply couldn`t happen in a random way. I simply can`t understand why some scientists don`t see it.

    > > I agree completely again, and I have little to add. And I
    > > remeber a test I saw at TV where a beautiful boring girl had
    > > much less success in one night than a fat and intelligent one.
    >
    > I know. But these dumb theorists over simplify everything, and neglect to take
    > into account expectation and peer pressure. A rich guy is assumed to be stupid
    > if he didn't get the most beautiful girl he could find.

    and this beautiful girl will be old one day and he is not prepared for this.

    > What if he really
    > wants a plain girl?

    yeah - this subject is much more complex than taking into account just reproduction of the species the same way as animals do.

    >
    > > i almost can see it... :)
    >
    > > and do you think this made some real difference to you?
    >
    > it could have. it's like pee wee leagues vs. the NFL. I know that I probably
    > had as much potential to do well in band competetions as many of these people
    > from larger schools, but I was not blessed with band directors who knew how to
    > play woodwind instruments.
    >
    > I remember seeing this really good highschool band at some event and I looked
    > at the program, and it listed off all the names of the private instructors
    > each instrument had. They had someone who was an expert at flute who would
    > come in and sit down with all the flute players as a section and taught them
    > the correct way how to play.
    >
    > It really showed when all the honor bands I participated in, that the big
    > chunk of the other people were from large schools.

    and this difference happened in quality of regular education too?

    >
    > > I don't know, but I think primary schools are not so important
    > > if a person has a really desire to have success in schools
    > > later.
    >
    > > Anyway, our access to Universities is completely different from
    > > yours as I know.
    >
    > > You have to do just one test to enter in the University, and it
    > > doesn`t matter how was your school story.
    >
    > but what do they teach you in school to get you ready?

    the test to enter in the University is called Vestibular and there are too many private schools that make courses (called Cursinhos) with different durations to prepare people for it. So even people from bad schools can sometimes make a good "Cursinho" to enter in the University. There are public and private Universities, and normally the better courses are the public ones... and normally rich people enter in it, and they don`t need to pay anything. Poor people have to work during the day, and they have to go to private Universities, the ones that have nocturnal courses (public ones pratically don`t have it).

    To enter in an University you have to study mathematics, physics, biology, portuguese, history, geography, an foreign language and chemistry. This if you enter in any course.
    >
    > > the less self conscious you dance the better? :)
    >
    > i guess. i went out again tonight and saw this horrible band. i should have
    > said no. I knew they were bad because I had seen them before.

    this is one good side of not going out of home... :)
    >
    > > what revoltes me is that the older ones is so more interesting!
    > > But most men don`t like women with personality at all.
    >
    > Besides some imagined ideal about the innocence of these 19 year old girls, I
    > don't see any other attraction.

    some of them have beautiful bodies, and this makes most men crazy.

    I don`t understand it.

    Women don`t have to have a perfect body to be very attractive.

    > Not that 19 year old girls are dumb, but most
    > of them are still living at home with their parents while this guy has been
    > playing the field longer than these girls have been alive. I can't imagine him
    > being interested in hearing about the prom that she went to the year before
    > while he is dealing in Mutual Funds and worrying about his cholesterol count.

    hehehe... but this very couple will be a couple of dumb people, and then they have this in common... :)

    >
    > > do you like to speak at the telephone Suzanne?
    >
    > > Oh, I hate it... :)
    >
    > I do, but I don't really do it that much anymore. There is no point. i have a
    > car and go drive and see them.

    I prefer this way. I'm always affraid of bothering people if I talk to them by phone. I just can't see their eyes to conclude it by myself.

    >
    > > I'm normally not sarcastic at all, but I could be sarcastic if a
    > > sad thing happened to me.
    >
    > > But not if this sad thing happened to you - it would seem I
    > > liked what happened to you.
    >
    > It's OK. Sarcasm is a normal thing. I use it all the time.

    well, I don`t...

    mmmm... probably my students won`t agree with me on this point. :)

    >
    > > in Brazil if somebody finds another people's document he can
    > > send it to the mail, and then the thing would go to the central
    > > computer.
    >
    > but mine wouldn't have an address or any form of ID.

    yes... documents are different from cds...

    oh! I have to go to Florianópolis in a 4-hours car trip Wednesday, and I have to return this very day. I'm excited by it, because I like roads very much.
     
  14. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    Re: another late night

    > I just don't know... There's an incredible with an incredible
    > low price double cd called "popular" (yes, the word is
    > the same in portuguese) with fantastic trash and kitsch
    > brazilian music. There are some songs where the singer sings
    > compltely off-key :)-)) ) and the overall result may not be
    > "cool" but is funny for sure, even if you don`t know
    > portugues.

    > But I'm affraid I am bothering you.

    > Yes, perhaps I am.

    Well, maybe it's a better thing that you enjoy them as I would not be able to listen to anyone off key for very long...

    > oh yeah... Febreeze.

    > I don`t know what I have thought because I didn`t understand
    > that Febreeze was the laundry softner...

    um...

    > oh for sure. I try to eat well on lunchs and dinners, because if
    > i don`t do that I can`t bear my life.

    To me, the key to things is exercising and staying away from lots of pasta. It might taste good, but you wake up one day and notice your clothes dont' fit the same.

    > the thing is that I was so fat I'm feeling well eating less. I
    > spend much less energy with the digestion process.

    I feel horrible when I overeat. When I was younger, I used to could do it and scarf down a meal and dessert and not care how full I was, but my stomach lets me know now when I've eaten too much.

    Because, it then goes through spells where it can't have enough where you have a very large meal and are equally as hungry after.

    > oh poor Suzanne, I feel for you. How do you are now?

    I'm feeling better. I went and saw a free movie tonight. It was a sneak preview of Vertical Limit which is about mountain climbing. I lucked out as I was the last person they had a seat for. I would not have paid any money to see it, but I really liked it.

    > Well, in Curitiba things are better now. We have a very humid
    > hot weather, and I'm feeling ok. As I use to walk on the
    > streets, I simply hate the cold that we have here.

    > There was even a time where I had too much depressions... then I
    > began to wrap myself up and my depressions began to pass... :)

    > well, it depends if you cook well or not... Í don't cook at all,
    > so normally things made outside are better than yhings made by
    > me.

    i almost burned my veggie corndogs tonight.

    > mmm... it must be good...

    > it means you a have a good "hand" to cook, isn`t it?

    > That's the expression we use here.
    > Thank you for the posts!

    > I didn't perceive it in the begining, and now I am really
    > impressed by it.

    > I don`t know why, but I was moved by this photo.

    I really wish I had more pictures like that. I look through the roll and I'm so disappointed that I have lots of eiffel towers, but few interesting ones like where someone had scrawled "Eminem" on the eiffel tower.

    > oh sorry I think I didn`t catch your drift but i am very curious
    > about these onions and carrot... I didn`t see literally any of
    > them in the photo...

    hee hee hee hee!!!!

    I have to thank Melody Maker for introducing me to that phrase....

    it's a euphemism, and no, you can't see them in the pic. I just thought it was an odd thing to break off the (let's use Monty Python for this) naughty bits on a tombstone.

    > your photo seems a little bit different from the usual angle,
    > isn`t it? i liked it.

    > I liked very much your photos...

    > hehehe... I know...

    > in fact I was talking about the cd I made to you... :)

    oh.

    > the repetion of songs in Morrissey's cds is one of his weirdest
    > sides, isn`t it?

    he's very good at it.

    > With time I began to think he makes this as a kind of joke (and
    > I have to confess I this joke funny...)

    might be a joke from the record company...

    > it's a good thing that most american moz fans began to be it
    > when morrissey was already in his solo career. Great part of
    > brazilian moz fans knew them when he was in the smiths, and they
    > use to be pedantic as most english moz fans. Weel, as for me, I
    > began to buy Smiths cds since 1986 but I became a real fanatic
    > circa 1992, when I began to understand his lyrics... so I am a
    > little bit english / american type of fan at the same time.

    > this is sad, I know.

    > heheh... I never thought about it...

    > I agree, but do you think this happen mostly just because women
    > put themselves in an inferior position or this is a sign of how
    > women act like mothers most of their times?

    they put themselves in an inferior position because they believe this is correct and this is the only way a guy would have them.

    I guess there is a bit of fear involved that whenever a group of women come together like in the Lillith fair, they are all called lesbians and man haters for showing any sort of power as a team.

    I'm sure people think I'm a lesbian because I can function as a single girl. There is this assumption of 'need' in a relationship where the man doesn't feel like he's doing his job if he's not in charge, and if a girl can do things on her own, many guys don't really see her as needing or wanting a boyfriend. It's not until she starts running to him wanting him to kill a big spider or carry some heavy boxes for her that he starts feeling like he is filling his role. "Oh, my big strong man, you!" and he feels wanted and appreciated.

    Just because you can lift boxes doesn't mean you are a better person. But somehow, all that got equivilated into the mixture.

    > When I watch my daughter feeding her dolls I think about her
    > biological role in our world.

    Yes, but I was never really like that. I was given dolls, but the most amusing ones I found were the ones you gave water and they wet their diaper afterwards. I thought that was funny. The whole feeding/clothing bit maybe lasted two minutes.

    I also have a cousin who is a boy and when he was younger, liked playing with the Barbie dolls sitting in my closet.

    Now that I think about it, I can't really remember what I played with that much. I liked drawing and making things.

    > well, this is true but I am really surprised of how most women
    > change after having children. They want to be with them most of
    > time in general.

    There is one guy I work with that he is mostly a house husband, and he's always taking his kid with him. I think it's great because he's a really good dad.

    Then, there are many of the others that they exude that "it's women's work" kind of thing and they don't pay much attention to their kid and the wife is subconciously trying to fill in where the guy is leaving off.

    > the women who want a guy with lots of money? I don`t like them
    > either. I don`t like women that wants to stay at home waiting
    > for their husband. They just seem mediocre to me.

    > Again this is perhaps the image my mother put in my head of how
    > a woman should be.

    > My mother had to be correct in something, isn't it?

    I think it's important for women to have a fulfilled life in general. I notice that when they sit at home too much and really don't have much going for them, they fixate way too much on their kids and kind of screw them up a bit.

    > do you agree with them? I think this doesn`t explain anything.

    > something like "monkeys' planet" series would happen,
    > isn`t it? this is the name of that old series in english?

    planet of the apes?

    > I think I disagree. I don`t believe our life is based on random
    > happenings.

    > See the DNA for example. For everything I studied about random
    > series, the DNA simply couldn`t happen in a random way. I simply
    > can`t understand why some scientists don`t see it.

    > and this beautiful girl will be old one day and he is not
    > prepared for this.

    > yeah - this subject is much more complex than taking into
    > account just reproduction of the species the same way as animals
    > do.

    > and this difference happened in quality of regular education
    > too?

    oddly enough, I don't think the very basics were touched. It's sort of different in America where the high schools are relatively easy for everyone to make sure they graduate. It's what they offer besides math and english that gives kids a real chance to do something.

    If you think about it, those are the formative years for learning how to do those very difficult things. If you're 18, and walk into a large university and see people that are eons ahead of you, you can't possibly catch up. No matter what you do, they are still going to outpace you.

    They did have a good science curriculum though, and I did love science.

    > the test to enter in the University is called Vestibular and
    > there are too many private schools that make courses (called
    > Cursinhos) with different durations to prepare people for it. So
    > even people from bad schools can sometimes make a good
    > "Cursinho" to enter in the University. There are
    > public and private Universities, and normally the better courses
    > are the public ones... and normally rich people enter in it, and
    > they don`t need to pay anything. Poor people have to work during
    > the day, and they have to go to private Universities, the ones
    > that have nocturnal courses (public ones pratically don`t have
    > it).

    we have student loans where you eventually pay back the money you borrowed to go to school.

    And we do have night classes. I'm thinking about one in newspaper writing because I would like to occasionally submit travel pieces.

    > To enter in an University you have to study mathematics,
    > physics, biology, portuguese, history, geography, an foreign
    > language and chemistry. This if you enter in any course.

    we have to study all that minus portugeuese, and have a physical education requirement (mine was marching band) and a few random odds and ends taken as electives. if you pass your classes, you can take things like typing, home economics, business classes, etc. but if you are failing your classes, you use that time to repeat what you failed.

    > this is one good side of not going out of home... :)

    > some of them have beautiful bodies, and this makes most men
    > crazy.

    > I don`t understand it.

    > Women don`t have to have a perfect body to be very attractive.

    well, i don't blame guys because frankly, i do have my own standards on what i find attractive in men, and i'm going to favor those guys over the others.

    > hehehe... but this very couple will be a couple of dumb people,
    > and then they have this in common... :)

    > I prefer this way. I'm always affraid of bothering people if I
    > talk to them by phone. I just can't see their eyes to conclude
    > it by myself.

    it takes the pressure off of me because i feel more uncomfortable being in front of them. i can also tell by the sound of the voice very well how the conversation is going.

    > well, I don`t...

    > mmmm... probably my students won`t agree with me on this point.
    > :)

    > yes... documents are different from cds...

    > oh! I have to go to Florianópolis in a 4-hours car trip
    > Wednesday, and I have to return this very day. I'm excited by
    > it, because I like roads very much.

    that sounds like fun. driving is fun for a while.
     
  15. Fabricio

    Fabricio Guest

    Re: another late night

    >
    > > I just don't know... There's an incredible with an incredible
    > > low price double cd called "popular" (yes, the word is
    > > the same in portuguese) with fantastic trash and kitsch
    > > brazilian music. There are some songs where the singer sings
    > > compltely off-key :)-)) ) and the overall result may not be
    > > "cool" but is funny for sure, even if you don`t know
    > > portugues.
    >
    > > But I'm affraid I am bothering you.
    >
    > > Yes, perhaps I am.
    >
    > Well, maybe it's a better thing that you enjoy them as I would not be able to
    > listen to anyone off key for very long...

    no, the most of them sing on-key... but this doesn't mean that they
    aren't funny...

    >
    > > oh yeah... Febreeze.
    >
    > > I don`t know what I have thought because I didn`t understand
    > > that Febreeze was the laundry softner...
    >
    > um...

    dois...

    >
    > > oh for sure. I try to eat well on lunchs and dinners, because if
    > > i don`t do that I can`t bear my life.
    >
    > To me, the key to things is exercising and staying away from lots of pasta. It
    > might taste good, but you wake up one day and notice your clothes dont' fit
    > the same.

    yes, and I'm affraid this happen again to me. The thing is that I'm having a terrible
    hunger at evenings since yesterday, and since longtime I didn`'t feel it anymore.

    It's a sad thing to be thinner and fatter from time to time. I am now
    in my minor weight since almost eight years. I'm affraid this good phase is finishing now.

    But perhaps not, who knows?

    >
    > > the thing is that I was so fat I'm feeling well eating less. I
    > > spend much less energy with the digestion process.
    >
    > I feel horrible when I overeat. When I was younger, I used to could do it and
    > scarf down a meal and dessert and not care how full I was, but my stomach lets
    > me know now when I've eaten too much.

    yes, this is the point where we should begin to lose our weight: knowing where we've
    eaten too much. The problem is that sometimes we have another problem, and the food
    seems to be a form of consolation - so we don`t know when we have to stop.

    >
    > Because, it then goes through spells where it can't have enough where you have
    > a very large meal and are equally as hungry after.

    oh yes.

    >
    > > oh poor Suzanne, I feel for you. How do you are now?
    >
    > I'm feeling better. I went and saw a free movie tonight.

    Is there frequent free movies where you live to see? I don`t know if we have much of this.

    > It was a sneak
    > preview of Vertical Limit which is about mountain climbing.

    I love these kind of movies - principally because normally the landscapes are so beautiful and I have a terrible fear of heigh places. It seems so secure seeing other people from my seat. :)

    > I lucked out as I
    > was the last person they had a seat for. I would not have paid any money to
    > see it, but I really liked it.

    you had a double luck so!

    >
    > > Well, in Curitiba things are better now. We have a very humid
    > > hot weather, and I'm feeling ok. As I use to walk on the
    > > streets, I simply hate the cold that we have here.
    >
    > > There was even a time where I had too much depressions... then I
    > > began to wrap myself up and my depressions began to pass... :)
    >
    > > well, it depends if you cook well or not... Í don't cook at all,
    > > so normally things made outside are better than yhings made by
    > > me.
    >
    > i almost burned my veggie corndogs tonight.

    oh don`t worry, as this uses to happen even with the best cookers...
    >
    > > mmm... it must be good...
    >
    > > it means you a have a good "hand" to cook, isn`t it?
    >
    > > That's the expression we use here.
    > > Thank you for the posts!
    >
    > > I didn't perceive it in the begining, and now I am really
    > > impressed by it.
    >
    > > I don`t know why, but I was moved by this photo.
    >
    > I really wish I had more pictures like that. I look through the roll and I'm
    > so disappointed that I have lots of eiffel towers, but few interesting ones
    > like where someone had scrawled "Eminem" on the eiffel tower.

    hehehe... what would you think if somebody wrote this in the eiffel tower? :) and what do you think about Eminem? I think he is a powerful and sincere singer, even if it's difficult to agree everytime with him.

    >
    > > oh sorry I think I didn`t catch your drift but i am very curious
    > > about these onions and carrot... I didn`t see literally any of
    > > them in the photo...
    >
    > hee hee hee hee!!!!
    >
    > I have to thank Melody Maker for introducing me to that phrase....
    >
    > it's a euphemism, and no, you can't see them in the pic. I just thought it was
    > an odd thing to break off the (let's use Monty Python for this) naughty bits
    > on a tombstone.

    hehe... it seems a good idea, but what exactly naughty bits are?

    >
    > > your photo seems a little bit different from the usual angle,
    > > isn`t it? i liked it.
    >
    > > I liked very much your photos...
    >
    > > hehehe... I know...
    >
    > > in fact I was talking about the cd I made to you... :)
    >
    > oh.

    hehehe... don`t worry about it.

    >
    > > the repetion of songs in Morrissey's cds is one of his weirdest
    > > sides, isn`t it?
    >
    > he's very good at it.

    heh... I could say it's a speciality of him, if there is such a speciality.

    >
    > > With time I began to think he makes this as a kind of joke (and
    > > I have to confess I this joke funny...)
    >
    > might be a joke from the record company...

    I really can't believe in that. If it were a record company's joke all singers would do the same. You see Suzanne, some choices of his cds are completely unbelievable. Why put Boxers and songs from Southpaw Grammar in the my early burglary years cd?

    As for Boxers, I think it is there to make this cd the best one ever for me.

    A weird choice I know.

    But everybody make weird choices sometimes, isn`t it?

    Well, changing the subject, I began to write your answer yesterday night but I was soo tired because of my trip... and now I am writing from work, what I never do.

    Hey! my father arrived! Perhaps I'll have to stop writing now!...

    >
    > > it's a good thing that most american moz fans began to be it
    > > when morrissey was already in his solo career. Great part of
    > > brazilian moz fans knew them when he was in the smiths, and they
    > > use to be pedantic as most english moz fans. Weel, as for me, I
    > > began to buy Smiths cds since 1986 but I became a real fanatic
    > > circa 1992, when I began to understand his lyrics... so I am a
    > > little bit english / american type of fan at the same time.
    >
    > > this is sad, I know.
    >
    > > heheh... I never thought about it...
    >
    > > I agree, but do you think this happen mostly just because women
    > > put themselves in an inferior position or this is a sign of how
    > > women act like mothers most of their times?
    >
    > they put themselves in an inferior position because they believe this is
    > correct and this is the only way a guy would have them.

    Well Suzanne, perhaps I am wrong, but there are too many women out there that at least seem to REALLY like this condition...

    You see, I always acted like the good guy and the "friend" of my female friends and in the end they always chosed the bad guys. Well, most of these girls really were unlucky thereafter.

    You see, if they really wanted to be well treated the girls could chose the good guys - but great part of them seldom do it when they are teenagers. Just when they become older that they begin to prefer kinder guys, normally because their previous choices put them into disaster.

    I believe sometimes in some biological reason for their choice.

    >
    > I guess there is a bit of fear involved that whenever a group of women come
    > together like in the Lillith fair, they are all called lesbians and man haters
    > for showing any sort of power as a team.

    A bit of fear from men isn't it?

    I agree most men are afraid of women personalities' in a general way. I don`t know, but when women begin to laugh toghether we feel really distant from them... :) We normally can't understand why so many laughs! :)

    Well, I digress, but as for me, it was so frequent to see my mother saying horrible things about men that I thought she was correct... (it seems that most gay men had mothers like mine, but I'm not gay, you see? I took all this in a positive way, I think). You see Suzanne, I think a little bit this way until now, and this is why, contrarily from most men, I prefer women's company to men's one always. When I see my father really having fun with just 8 other men during 10 days when he goes to fishing I really can`t understand why he can like other men's company that much. This is hell from me :) It's so nicer to be in women's company to me. But I know I am almost an exception. Most men love to be with other ones of their own genre, because they can make dirty jokes everytime and they don`t need to deal with the subtilities of a relation with a woman.
    >
    > I'm sure people think I'm a lesbian because I can function as a single girl.

    It's a good thing to be really independent, and I really appreciate this in a woman.

    > There is this assumption of 'need' in a relationship where the man doesn't
    > feel like he's doing his job if he's not in charge, and if a girl can do
    > things on her own, many guys don't really see her as needing or wanting a
    > boyfriend. It's not until she starts running to him wanting him to kill a big
    > spider or carry some heavy boxes for her that he starts feeling like he is
    > filling his role. "Oh, my big strong man, you!" and he feels wanted and
    > appreciated.

    hehehe... I don`t know, but sometimes is very difficult to please women, you know? Sometimes men act like kids, and they have no idea (or they don`t want to know about) of how act with a girl. So if they can have some utility, this is fine for them!

    Oh yeah - men are stupid in general.
    >
    > Just because you can lift boxes doesn't mean you are a better person. But
    > somehow, all that got equivilated into the mixture.

    Yeah... but sometimes men just want to help, don`t you think?

    >
    > > When I watch my daughter feeding her dolls I think about her
    > > biological role in our world.
    >
    > Yes, but I was never really like that. I was given dolls, but the most amusing
    > ones I found were the ones you gave water and they wet their diaper
    > afterwards. I thought that was funny.

    heh... I don`t think I would like it... I've been so... I don`t know how to explain in fact.

    > The whole feeding/clothing bit maybe
    > lasted two minutes.

    well, as for clothing, my niece just likes to take off doll's clothes :)
    >
    > I also have a cousin who is a boy and when he was younger, liked playing with
    > the Barbie dolls sitting in my closet.

    And what become of him?
    >
    > Now that I think about it, I can't really remember what I played with that
    > much. I liked drawing and making things.

    When I was 20 I had a 19-years old girlfriend who had lots of dolls... and all the gifts she wanted to get was dolls, and she spent lots of money with it... This was silly! And she criticized me because the quantity of LPs I bought...

    >
    > > well, this is true but I am really surprised of how most women
    > > change after having children. They want to be with them most of
    > > time in general.
    >
    > There is one guy I work with that he is mostly a house husband, and he's
    > always taking his kid with him. I think it's great because he's a really good
    > dad.

    This is really good indeed - I try to do it with my daughter.

    >
    > Then, there are many of the others that they exude that "it's women's work"
    > kind of thing and they don't pay much attention to their kid and the wife is
    > subconciously trying to fill in where the guy is leaving off.

    This is one of the worst kind of men that exist. There's no more important thing on Earth than our children, and it's unbelievable that there are so many men that don`t think and don't act that way.

    >
    > > the women who want a guy with lots of money? I don`t like them
    > > either. I don`t like women that wants to stay at home waiting
    > > for their husband. They just seem mediocre to me.
    >
    > > Again this is perhaps the image my mother put in my head of how
    > > a woman should be.
    >
    > > My mother had to be correct in something, isn't it?
    >
    > I think it's important for women to have a fulfilled life in general. I notice
    > that when they sit at home too much and really don't have much going for them,
    > they fixate way too much on their kids and kind of screw them up a bit.

    and sometimes even the children become adults ashamed of their mothers because they are ignorant and crazy.

    >
    > > do you agree with them? I think this doesn`t explain anything.
    >
    > > something like "monkeys' planet" series would happen,
    > > isn`t it? this is the name of that old series in english?
    >
    > planet of the apes?

    the series where the monkeys are the dominators of the Earth? I think this is the correct name.
    >
    > > I think I disagree. I don`t believe our life is based on random
    > > happenings.
    >
    > > See the DNA for example. For everything I studied about random
    > > series, the DNA simply couldn`t happen in a random way. I simply
    > > can`t understand why some scientists don`t see it.
    >
    > > and this beautiful girl will be old one day and he is not
    > > prepared for this.
    >
    > > yeah - this subject is much more complex than taking into
    > > account just reproduction of the species the same way as animals
    > > do.
    >
    > > and this difference happened in quality of regular education
    > > too?
    >
    > oddly enough, I don't think the very basics were touched. It's sort of
    > different in America where the high schools are relatively easy for everyone
    > to make sure they graduate. It's what they offer besides math and english that
    > gives kids a real chance to do something.

    oh really?

    I think I would like this system, as I was always much more interested in things besides the common basics.

    >
    > If you think about it, those are the formative years for learning how to do
    > those very difficult things. If you're 18, and walk into a large university
    > and see people that are eons ahead of you, you can't possibly catch up. No
    > matter what you do, they are still going to outpace you.

    I don't know in US, but in Brazil it seems you always have a chance to begin again, in a Master of Sciences graduation for example, and outpace others.
    >
    > They did have a good science curriculum though, and I did love science.

    Do you still love science, don`t you?

    I like it too.
    >
    > > the test to enter in the University is called Vestibular and
    > > there are too many private schools that make courses (called
    > > Cursinhos) with different durations to prepare people for it. So
    > > even people from bad schools can sometimes make a good
    > > "Cursinho" to enter in the University. There are
    > > public and private Universities, and normally the better courses
    > > are the public ones... and normally rich people enter in it, and
    > > they don`t need to pay anything. Poor people have to work during
    > > the day, and they have to go to private Universities, the ones
    > > that have nocturnal courses (public ones pratically don`t have
    > > it).
    >
    > we have student loans where you eventually pay back the money you borrowed to
    > go to school.

    This seems a much fair system. It's idiot to see students going free to Universities in Ferraris as I have seen, and having at the same time a University in a miserable state.

    >
    > And we do have night classes. I'm thinking about one in newspaper writing
    > because I would like to occasionally submit travel pieces.

    the newspaper belongs to the University?

    >
    > > To enter in an University you have to study mathematics,
    > > physics, biology, portuguese, history, geography, an foreign
    > > language and chemistry. This if you enter in any course.
    >
    > we have to study all that minus portugeuese,

    but why? It's a fine language :)))

    > and have a physical education
    > requirement (mine was marching band)

    didn`t you have to do other sports?

    > and a few random odds and ends taken as
    > electives. if you pass your classes, you can take things like typing, home
    > economics, business classes, etc. but if you are failing your classes, you use
    > that time to repeat what you failed.

    interesting indeed.

    Here if you fail you simply have to do your classes again
    .
    >
    > > this is one good side of not going out of home... :)
    >
    > > some of them have beautiful bodies, and this makes most men
    > > crazy.
    >
    > > I don`t understand it.
    >
    > > Women don`t have to have a perfect body to be very attractive.
    >
    > well, i don't blame guys because frankly, i do have my own standards on what i
    > find attractive in men, and i'm going to favor those guys over the others.

    Well, I can`t blame you because I am a little bit like that too (I thnik everybody are).

    Anyway, if a man likes a 19-year old girl he have to be prevented that this girl probably won`t have the same body after 15 years. Will this man try to find another teenager?

    Probably yes.

    And perhaps he'll be frustrated after some years because there's no such a thing as a "perfect body" or a body that will remain "almost perfect" for so many years.

    >
    > > hehehe... but this very couple will be a couple of dumb people,
    > > and then they have this in common... :)
    >
    > > I prefer this way. I'm always affraid of bothering people if I
    > > talk to them by phone. I just can't see their eyes to conclude
    > > it by myself.
    >
    > it takes the pressure off of me because i feel more uncomfortable being in
    > front of them. i can also tell by the sound of the voice very well how the
    > conversation is going.

    I see.

    But I simply enter in panic when I hear a voice from a phone. I don't know why, but the place where I am still the criminally vulgar shy is in front a telephon.

    Perhaps this is because of my bad voice too.

    Oh, yes - I have not a good voice to sing on-key most of songs I know.
    >
    > > well, I don`t...
    >
    > > mmmm... probably my students won`t agree with me on this point.
    > > :)
    >
    > > yes... documents are different from cds...
    >
    > > oh! I have to go to Florianópolis in a 4-hours car trip
    > > Wednesday, and I have to return this very day. I'm excited by
    > > it, because I like roads very much.
    >
    > that sounds like fun. driving is fun for a while.
    >
    Yes, but after nine hours of a going and returning trip I thought I would become crazy :))))
     
  16. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    Re: another late night

    > no, the most of them sing on-key... but this doesn't mean that
    > they
    > aren't funny...

    > dois...

    no, i'm not counting in a latin-based language.... I'm saying "um" as a pause....

    > yes, and I'm affraid this happen again to me. The thing is that
    > I'm having a terrible
    > hunger at evenings since yesterday, and since longtime I didn`'t
    > feel it anymore.

    Fabricio, I don't know what to tell ya.

    > It's a sad thing to be thinner and fatter from time to time. I
    > am now
    > in my minor weight since almost eight years. I'm affraid this
    > good phase is finishing now.

    The thing is, you have to change how you eat forever.

    Actually, I wish I did something where I could move around more than just being planted in my seat at work all day. You can eat what you want with that.

    > But perhaps not, who knows?

    > yes, this is the point where we should begin to lose our weight:
    > knowing where we've
    > eaten too much. The problem is that sometimes we have another
    > problem, and the food
    > seems to be a form of consolation - so we don`t know when we
    > have to stop.

    I understand that as well. I like eating in that way. I think it's more subconscious than that. You look down one day and notice that you've suddenly lost or gained weight.

    Speaking of that, I don't know if I told you that all 5 people in my department got employee of the month....stupid and silly how 5 people have to share it, but I discovered it was a stupid ploy by our sales manager to make us feel better when they announced that our department might be one person short permanently.

    ...let's not forget that if it wasn't for me covering that missing spot, it wouldn't be possible, but I digress..

    we had our pics taken at a studio around the corner for the plaque that is hanging in front of the elevator. I was sort of looking forward to that because I hadn't had any decent pictures of me done in eons. I got all done up, and we all went in as a group. He posed me in an odd way, but I thought nothing of it at the time. We get the proofs back and the bastard tilted my head down and in such a way to make it look like I have a huge double chin. I look like Carnie Wilson in the face.

    He must have done this as a cruel joke of some sort. He's a professional, and most everyone else's pics I've seen of his were really good.

    > oh yes.

    > Is there frequent free movies where you live to see? I don`t
    > know if we have much of this.

    They do it for one reason: they invite all of the press to see the movie, and they like having a large audience of nobodies filling up the empty space to react to the film. It's a ploy that maybe the reviewer will get sucked in with the audience.

    Obiviously it didn't work for Vertical Limit. The guy gave it one star. But they do that. These people start getting indignant that they enjoyed a movie made for the masses and they have to turn their nose up at it to keep their cool level.

    > I love these kind of movies - principally because normally the
    > landscapes are so beautiful and I have a terrible fear of heigh
    > places. It seems so secure seeing other people from my seat. :)

    i dont' think you really get that sort of reaction that much from the movie.

    I saw Sean Connery's new film "Finding Forrestor" made by the same guy who did "Good Will Hunting." Always about finding things eh?

    The sad thing is the premise to the film is sort of similar to something I had written a while ago, part of my first screenplay that I botched at university, redirected for my first book...

    > you had a double luck so!

    > oh don`t worry, as this uses to happen even with the best
    > cookers...

    > hehehe... what would you think if somebody wrote this in the
    > eiffel tower? :)

    they did write it in the eiffel tower. I have a picture of it.

    >and what do you think about Eminem? I think he
    > is a powerful and sincere singer, even if it's difficult to
    > agree everytime with him.

    I don't care what people say, I like him in his silly way. I think he's harmless in a beavis and butthead kind of manner.

    > hehe... it seems a good idea, but what exactly naughty bits are?

    don't make me spell it out....you are messing with me, eh?

    > hehehe... don`t worry about it.

    > heh... I could say it's a speciality of him, if there is such a
    > speciality.

    > I really can't believe in that. If it were a record company's
    > joke all singers would do the same. You see Suzanne, some
    > choices of his cds are completely unbelievable. Why put Boxers
    > and songs from Southpaw Grammar in the my early burglary years
    > cd?

    Because reprise was the one releasing it and they only have so much they can work with. They can;'t use maladjusted, and MEBY is a collection of rarities, of which you can't honestly stick Suedehead on there AGAIN.

    > As for Boxers, I think it is there to make this cd the best one
    > ever for me.

    > A weird choice I know.

    > But everybody make weird choices sometimes, isn`t it?

    if we were all the same, it would be boring.

    > Well, changing the subject, I began to write your answer
    > yesterday night but I was soo tired because of my trip... and
    > now I am writing from work, what I never do.

    > Hey! my father arrived! Perhaps I'll have to stop writing
    > now!...

    i would hope so!

    > Well Suzanne, perhaps I am wrong, but there are too many women
    > out there that at least seem to REALLY like this condition...

    Maybe. They do for a while because it gets them somewhere. They get dates and feel loved by the male race. That's what it all boils down to.

    That, and many girls are raised to where they can't really make decisions for themselves, so they feel comfortable having someone there telling them what to do.

    It's a vicious cycle, really.

    > You see, I always acted like the good guy and the
    > "friend" of my female friends and in the end they
    > always chosed the bad guys. Well, most of these girls really
    > were unlucky thereafter.

    How else do I say this?

    I'm not saying who actually told me this because I'm shocked that they would say it (they are female on top of everything else), but they basically said that all guys who treat girls nice and as equals are probably gay, and that I should basically quit holding out for a guy like this because they are pretty much dating each other.

    I don't believe that, and personally, i would rather sit at home than be in a relationship where some guy (or anyone) is directing me on what to do. But still, this thinking came from somewhere didn't it? She's not the only one.

    > You see, if they really wanted to be well treated the girls
    > could chose the good guys - but great part of them seldom do it
    > when they are teenagers. Just when they become older that they
    > begin to prefer kinder guys, normally because their previous
    > choices put them into disaster.

    > I believe sometimes in some biological reason for their choice.

    yeah, right, Fabricio. Just keep telling yourself that.

    > A bit of fear from men isn't it?

    > I agree most men are afraid of women personalities' in a general
    > way. I don`t know, but when women begin to laugh toghether we
    > feel really distant from them... :) We normally can't
    > understand why so many laughs! :)

    because they found something funny...

    > Well, I digress, but as for me, it was so frequent to see my
    > mother saying horrible things about men that I thought she was
    > correct... (it seems that most gay men had mothers like mine,
    > but I'm not gay, you see? I took all this in a positive way, I
    > think). You see Suzanne, I think a little bit this way until
    > now, and this is why, contrarily from most men, I prefer women's
    > company to men's one always. When I see my father really having
    > fun with just 8 other men during 10 days when he goes to fishing
    > I really can`t understand why he can like other men's company
    > that much. This is hell from me :) It's so nicer to be in
    > women's company to me. But I know I am almost an exception. Most
    > men love to be with other ones of their own genre, because they
    > can make dirty jokes everytime and they don`t need to deal with
    > the subtilities of a relation with a woman.

    Personally, despite what I say, I prefer the company of men in all aspects...that is, until they start going into "we're all guys and can't say this in front of the girl" thing. Believe it or not, I don't get offended by what they say.

    With other girls, you get this whole thing of them getting territorial about their boyfriends, or they start discussing hair and clothing. I lucked out in that my friends don't do that, but the good majority of girls can't discuss any movie beyond Sleepless in Seattle. They just sit around and talk about their boyfriends or husbands.

    Sadly, the most witless of our species generally get to marry and have children. So much for evolution.

    > Yeah... but sometimes men just want to help, don`t you think?

    that's OK, and that's what relationships are about, but, "hey, little girl, I can put that heavy box in your car for you. are you turned on? how about a date?"

    what exactly is the logic in this?

    > well, as for clothing, my niece just likes to take off doll's
    > clothes :)

    > And what become of him?

    i think he's a normal boy. i encouraged it in anyway I could because i don't think there is any shame in doing things that you want to do.

    i played with hotwheels as a kid!

    > When I was 20 I had a 19-years old girlfriend who had lots of
    > dolls... and all the gifts she wanted to get was dolls, and she
    > spent lots of money with it... This was silly! And she
    > criticized me because the quantity of LPs I bought...

    heh.

    i do have dolls. they sit around and gather dust somewhere.

    > I don't know in US, but in Brazil it seems you always have a
    > chance to begin again, in a Master of Sciences graduation for
    > example, and outpace others.

    you do. they give you tons of chances.

    > Do you still love science, don`t you?

    in my own strange way.

    > I like it too.

    > This seems a much fair system. It's idiot to see students going
    > free to Universities in Ferraris as I have seen, and having at
    > the same time a University in a miserable state.

    > the newspaper belongs to the University?

    no. just the relevant experience/coursework to do it.

    i don't expect to have a grand career in journalism, but I want some sort of guidance to where I can stick my foot in the door and submit occasional articles to real newspapers.

    of course i had the suggestion that I should turn the remnants of my website into a webzine of sorts. the danger in that being almost no way of promoting it, and about 3 readers from this website.

    > but why? It's a fine language :)))

    > didn`t you have to do other sports?

    we did. i just hated them.

    > interesting indeed.

    > Anyway, if a man likes a 19-year old girl he have to be
    > prevented that this girl probably won`t have the same body after
    > 15 years. Will this man try to find another teenager?

    but you don't think about that when you are 19, right? the whole stage where your body starts drooping is a few years off.

    some its immediate, then you have Tina Turner at 60 going strong.

    > Probably yes.

    > And perhaps he'll be frustrated after some years because there's
    > no such a thing as a "perfect body" or a body that
    > will remain "almost perfect" for so many years.

    > I see.

    > But I simply enter in panic when I hear a voice from a phone. I
    > don't know why, but the place where I am still the criminally
    > vulgar shy is in front a telephon.

    > Perhaps this is because of my bad voice too.

    Oh, yes. I hate my voice quite a bit. My accent is terrible. Then, people find things to complain about such as I don't speak loud enough, I don't speak enough, etc. They always find ways to embarass me on it by being incredibly rude in how they phrase it. It gets really old.

    > Oh, yes - I have not a good voice to sing on-key most of songs I
    > know.
    > Yes, but after nine hours of a going and returning trip I
    > thought I would become crazy :))))

    well, we can't blame you. at least you didn't start muttering incoherently to yourself.
     
  17. Fabricio

    Fabricio Guest

    Re: another late night

    hello suzanne!!!

    I really can't believe I'm talking to you, as yesterday was a "terror night" (I had to
    correct almost 200 examens and projects from my students) and today i did the major mess
    i did in months: i bought a lynux system and i tried to put in my computer...

    oh you can't imagine my pain, Suzanne. I install the lynux system but i couldn't boot my
    computer again (from lynux or from windows) anymore. My wife was so angry with me, as
    she had important work things in my computer. So I called my computer assistant and he
    said i probably had lost everything I had in my computer! But he helped me to do the
    boot again: so i went to my office by (it was sunday evening) but i didn't bring the
    windows98 cd, and i didn`t knew i dad to have it... so i returned to my office with the
    windows98 to make a boot diskette... that had a problem in the end of its creation...

    I had almost lose my hopes when I really got the boot from the cd! So after some further
    sufferances I installed again the Windows98 in my computer... oh it was so easy! I won't
    say bad things against bill gates anymore :)

    i've lost some 6 or more Gb of HD in this experience, but I have hopes my often wrong
    computer assistant will get it again from lynux to windows.

    I simply don`t know how to boot my lynux system that now is possibly in my computer as a
    snakes' egg.

    But I am here, writing this message to you and hearing this great double cd I bought
    yesterday: a lightin'hopkins' entire life anthology.

    I can tell you I am happy now, you see?

    with little tears in my eyes, but that's ok... :))

    and you can ask me a question of course: "why this non-specialized in computers systems
    idiot tried to get his lynux system alone?". I don't the answer for sure, as I'm doing
    this question to myself too!

    >
    > > dois...
    >
    > no, i'm not counting in a latin-based language.... I'm saying "um" as a
    > pause....

    you are too smart, suzanne! I thought you couldn't understand the word "dois" and you
    would say I was crazy! I failed again.

    >
    > > yes, and I'm affraid this happen again to me. The thing is that
    > > I'm having a terrible
    > > hunger at evenings since yesterday, and since longtime I didn`'t
    > > feel it anymore.
    >
    > Fabricio, I don't know what to tell ya.

    well, luckily I didn't have this absurd hunger anymore - I think I am fitted with the
    hot weather is doing these days.

    >
    > > It's a sad thing to be thinner and fatter from time to time. I
    > > am now
    > > in my minor weight since almost eight years. I'm affraid this
    > > good phase is finishing now.
    >
    > The thing is, you have to change how you eat forever.

    Yes, I finally have perceived it, and I try to control myself even if the meals are
    really excellent (as the one i had at lunch today. Do you know what a "churrasco" mean?

    >
    > Actually, I wish I did something where I could move around more than just
    > being planted in my seat at work all day. You can eat what you want with that.

    do you know if giving classes is some kind of exercise? if so, well, I'm doing my
    exercises... but I simply couldn't do more than it anymore.

    >
    > > yes, this is the point where we should begin to lose our weight:
    > > knowing where we've
    > > eaten too much. The problem is that sometimes we have another
    > > problem, and the food
    > > seems to be a form of consolation - so we don`t know when we
    > > have to stop.
    >
    > I understand that as well. I like eating in that way. I think it's more
    > subconscious than that. You look down one day and notice that you've suddenly
    > lost or gained weight.

    Yes, i would say it's rather completely subconscious - when the thing comes to your
    conscience you can fight more easily against it.

    >
    > Speaking of that, I don't know if I told you that all 5 people in my
    > department got employee of the month....stupid and silly how 5 people have to
    > share it, but I discovered it was a stupid ploy by our sales manager to make
    > us feel better when they announced that our department might be one person
    > short permanently.

    but are you sure about this plot?

    >
    > ....let's not forget that if it wasn't for me covering that missing spot, it
    > wouldn't be possible, but I digress..

    why? sorry but i didn`t understand what did you mean here.

    >
    > we had our pics taken at a studio around the corner for the plaque that is
    > hanging in front of the elevator. I was sort of looking forward to that
    > because I hadn't had any decent pictures of me done in eons. I got all done
    > up, and we all went in as a group. He posed me in an odd way, but I thought
    > nothing of it at the time. We get the proofs back and the bastard tilted my
    > head down and in such a way to make it look like I have a huge double chin. I
    > look like Carnie Wilson in the face.

    but... aren`t you too cruel with yourself? I just know one picture of yours, and it's
    not bad at all...

    you see? I always had problems with my photos as well as you have. But even with the
    stupid and childish face I see in my own photos people still talks to me, so I can`t
    care anymore about my image.

    >
    > He must have done this as a cruel joke of some sort. He's a professional, and
    > most everyone else's pics I've seen of his were really good.

    ok, but again don`t you think you are cruel with yourself?

    >
    > > oh yes.
    >
    > > Is there frequent free movies where you live to see? I don`t
    > > know if we have much of this.
    >
    > They do it for one reason: they invite all of the press to see the movie, and
    > they like having a large audience of nobodies filling up the empty space to
    > react to the film. It's a ploy that maybe the reviewer will get sucked in with
    > the audience.

    yes, i've thought about it... if the movie is good for the public this probably will
    influence on critics' opinions.

    >
    > Obiviously it didn't work for Vertical Limit. The guy gave it one star. But
    > they do that. These people start getting indignant that they enjoyed a movie
    > made for the masses and they have to turn their nose up at it to keep their
    > cool level.

    ah good thing in liking old kitsch songs is that you completely lose your "cool level"
    :)

    >
    > > I love these kind of movies - principally because normally the
    > > landscapes are so beautiful and I have a terrible fear of heigh
    > > places. It seems so secure seeing other people from my seat. :)
    >
    > i dont' think you really get that sort of reaction that much from the movie.
    >
    > I saw Sean Connery's new film "Finding Forrestor" made by the same guy who did
    > "Good Will Hunting." Always about finding things eh?

    hehehe... it's good that somebody at his age is still looking for something in life... a
    good way of keeping alive! :)

    >
    > The sad thing is the premise to the film is sort of similar to something I had
    > written a while ago, part of my first screenplay that I botched at university,
    > redirected for my first book...

    well, you should belive yourself more the next times, don`t you think?

    and have you already finished some book?

    >
    > > hehehe... what would you think if somebody wrote this in the
    > > eiffel tower? :)
    >
    > they did write it in the eiffel tower. I have a picture of it.

    well, it was not that you sent me, was it?

    >
    > >and what do you think about Eminem? I think he
    > > is a powerful and sincere singer, even if it's difficult to
    > > agree everytime with him.
    >
    > I don't care what people say, I like him in his silly way. I think he's
    > harmless in a beavis and butthead kind of manner.

    well, I have never had too much patience to read his lyrics, but the few I have read
    seemed very original and well did.

    Strange thing I saw today in a too mainstream program in the most mainstream brazilian
    channel an interview with eminem! he is a handsome guy, isn't it? :) i liked him.

    >
    > > hehe... it seems a good idea, but what exactly naughty bits are?
    >
    > don't make me spell it out....you are messing with me, eh?

    no, unfortunately not... it's just ignorance. I know what "naughty" is and what "bits"
    are, but the phrase did little sense to me. Perhaps i have to read it again :)

    >
    > > I really can't believe in that. If it were a record company's
    > > joke all singers would do the same. You see Suzanne, some
    > > choices of his cds are completely unbelievable. Why put Boxers
    > > and songs from Southpaw Grammar in the my early burglary years
    > > cd?
    >
    > Because reprise was the one releasing it and they only have so much they can
    > work with. They can;'t use maladjusted, and MEBY is a collection of rarities,
    > of which you can't honestly stick Suedehead on there AGAIN.

    but what i never understood is southpaw was not from RCA? so what de deal with reprise?
    and the rarities were from his previous record deal, so I still don`t understand why
    putting southpaw songs in a "rarities" album. It still seems a Morrissey way of doing
    things - as he did it during the smiths.

    >
    > > As for Boxers, I think it is there to make this cd the best one
    > > ever for me.
    >
    > > A weird choice I know.
    >
    > > But everybody make weird choices sometimes, isn`t it?
    >
    > if we were all the same, it would be boring.

    there's no doubt about it.

    hey, I've sent the clip where we can see bono and morrissey together - it's really
    moving!

    >
    > > Well, changing the subject, I began to write your answer
    > > yesterday night but I was soo tired because of my trip... and
    > > now I am writing from work, what I never do.
    >
    > > Hey! my father arrived! Perhaps I'll have to stop writing
    > > now!...
    >
    > i would hope so!

    am i that boring? :-(

    >
    > > Well Suzanne, perhaps I am wrong, but there are too many women
    > > out there that at least seem to REALLY like this condition...
    >
    > Maybe. They do for a while because it gets them somewhere. They get dates and
    > feel loved by the male race. That's what it all boils down to.
    >
    > That, and many girls are raised to where they can't really make decisions for
    > themselves, so they feel comfortable having someone there telling them what to
    > do.
    >

    yes, but there's a terrible irrationalism in it too. I know a girl who had a violent boyfriend, that sometimes times hit her, and each day he seemed still more violent. But the girl simply couldn't forget him! she said he "did some "correct" things like being aggressive with those who tried to speak at her.

    I simply can`t understand this kind of girls - well, and as i don`t like men in a sexual way :)-) ), i simply can't understand how this girl can be so stupid.

    > It's a vicious cycle, really.

    >
    > > You see, I always acted like the good guy and the
    > > "friend" of my female friends and in the end they
    > > always chosed the bad guys. Well, most of these girls really
    > > were unlucky thereafter.
    >
    > How else do I say this?
    >
    > I'm not saying who actually told me this because I'm shocked that they would
    > say it (they are female on top of everything else), but they basically said
    > that all guys who treat girls nice and as equals are probably gay, and that I
    > should basically quit holding out for a guy like this because they are pretty
    > much dating each other.

    heheh... i all can say is that i would never have any chance with a girl like that! :)

    anyway, i see that several girls think that way - and i really think it's irrationalism (biology?)

    >
    > I don't believe that, and personally, i would rather sit at home than be in a
    > relationship where some guy (or anyone) is directing me on what to do. But
    > still, this thinking came from somewhere didn't it? She's not the only one.

    yes, for sure.

    >
    > > You see, if they really wanted to be well treated the girls
    > > could chose the good guys - but great part of them seldom do it
    > > when they are teenagers. Just when they become older that they
    > > begin to prefer kinder guys, normally because their previous
    > > choices put them into disaster.
    >
    > > I believe sometimes in some biological reason for their choice.
    >
    > yeah, right, Fabricio. Just keep telling yourself that.

    do you have some another idea?

    >
    > > A bit of fear from men isn't it?
    >
    > > I agree most men are afraid of women personalities' in a general
    > > way. I don`t know, but when women begin to laugh toghether we
    > > feel really distant from them... :) We normally can't
    > > understand why so many laughs! :)
    >
    > because they found something funny...

    oh, for sure. I didn't think about that :)

    >
    > > Well, I digress, but as for me, it was so frequent to see my
    > > mother saying horrible things about men that I thought she was
    > > correct... (it seems that most gay men had mothers like mine,
    > > but I'm not gay, you see? I took all this in a positive way, I
    > > think). You see Suzanne, I think a little bit this way until
    > > now, and this is why, contrarily from most men, I prefer women's
    > > company to men's one always. When I see my father really having
    > > fun with just 8 other men during 10 days when he goes to fishing
    > > I really can`t understand why he can like other men's company
    > > that much. This is hell from me :) It's so nicer to be in
    > > women's company to me. But I know I am almost an exception. Most
    > > men love to be with other ones of their own genre, because they
    > > can make dirty jokes everytime and they don`t need to deal with
    > > the subtilities of a relation with a woman.
    >
    > Personally, despite what I say, I prefer the company of men in all
    > aspects...that is, until they start going into "we're all guys and can't say
    > this in front of the girl" thing. Believe it or not, I don't get offended by
    > what they say.

    well, i don`t use to say some things in front of girls... do you think i have to change?

    >
    > With other girls, you get this whole thing of them getting territorial about
    > their boyfriends, or they start discussing hair and clothing. I lucked out in
    > that my friends don't do that, but the good majority of girls can't discuss
    > any movie beyond Sleepless in Seattle. They just sit around and talk about
    > their boyfriends or husbands.

    yes, but they are much more interestings when they speak with men... and men are much less interestings when they speak to other ones.

    Anyway, there's a joke i read in internet that seems true someway: there are two women talking to each other, one saying marvelous things about the other's clothes and vice-versa, and each one thinking horrible things about the other woman; and they compare these two women's behaviour with two men making jokes saying horrible things to each other and both thinking marvelous things about his friend...

    there's some reality in it - women seem to be always in competition against her female friends, what is not so normal in men's behaviour.

    >
    > Sadly, the most witless of our species generally get to marry and have
    > children. So much for evolution.

    that's ok if the woman has other interests too.

    >
    > > Yeah... but sometimes men just want to help, don`t you think?
    >
    > that's OK, and that's what relationships are about, but, "hey, little girl, I
    > can put that heavy box in your car for you. are you turned on? how about a
    > date?"
    >
    > what exactly is the logic in this?

    there's no logic but sometime men are closed minded and they simply don`t know what to do to please women. Even I think women are very difficult to please sometimes. :)

    >
    > > well, as for clothing, my niece just likes to take off doll's
    > > clothes :)
    >
    > > And what become of him?
    >
    > i think he's a normal boy. i encouraged it in anyway I could because i don't
    > think there is any shame in doing things that you want to do.

    but he is not gay, is it?

    >
    > i played with hotwheels as a kid!

    what hotwheels mean?

    i know i must irritate you with my ignorance sometimes...

    >
    > > When I was 20 I had a 19-years old girlfriend who had lots of
    > > dolls... and all the gifts she wanted to get was dolls, and she
    > > spent lots of money with it... This was silly! And she
    > > criticized me because the quantity of LPs I bought...
    >
    > heh.
    >
    > i do have dolls. they sit around and gather dust somewhere.

    do you still have them?

    i don`t have anything from my old old times... i live in a very small apartment...

    >
    > > I don't know in US, but in Brazil it seems you always have a
    > > chance to begin again, in a Master of Sciences graduation for
    > > example, and outpace others.
    >
    > you do. they give you tons of chances.

    yes, but i don`t know if i'm spoiling them...

    >
    > > Do you still love science, don`t you?
    >
    > in my own strange way.

    what does it mean? :)

    >
    > > I like it too.
    >
    > > This seems a much fair system. It's idiot to see students going
    > > free to Universities in Ferraris as I have seen, and having at
    > > the same time a University in a miserable state.
    >
    > > the newspaper belongs to the University?
    >
    > no. just the relevant experience/coursework to do it.
    >
    > i don't expect to have a grand career in journalism, but I want some sort of
    > guidance to where I can stick my foot in the door and submit occasional
    > articles to real newspapers.

    i had my critic career too in the biggest local newspaper, as i am a close friend from the critic who was the boss of the teenage page - but he was fired of this page and this career of mine suddenly finished... anyway i don`t know how many hours i could sleep by night if this continued - it's 3 oçlock now and i have to wake up very early tomorrow.

    >
    > of course i had the suggestion that I should turn the remnants of my website
    > into a webzine of sorts. the danger in that being almost no way of promoting
    > it, and about 3 readers from this website.

    but you would have a fix place to put your stories, and then you could be known.

    Talking about stories, sorry but i couldn't read yours recent one this night - i hope i'll do it tomorrow. Perhaps i'll print it to read in the bus!

    >
    > > but why? It's a fine language :)))
    >
    > > didn`t you have to do other sports?
    >
    > we did. i just hated them.

    >
    > > interesting indeed.
    >
    > > Anyway, if a man likes a 19-year old girl he have to be
    > > prevented that this girl probably won`t have the same body after
    > > 15 years. Will this man try to find another teenager?
    >
    > but you don't think about that when you are 19, right? the whole stage where
    > your body starts drooping is a few years off.

    i see, but sometimes i am impressed by the bodies of my 19-year old students...

    >
    > some its immediate, then you have Tina Turner at 60 going strong.

    well, her decadence was concentrated in her music.

    >
    > > Probably yes.
    >
    > > And perhaps he'll be frustrated after some years because there's
    > > no such a thing as a "perfect body" or a body that
    > > will remain "almost perfect" for so many years.
    >
    > > I see.
    >
    > > But I simply enter in panic when I hear a voice from a phone. I
    > > don't know why, but the place where I am still the criminally
    > > vulgar shy is in front a telephon.
    >
    > > Perhaps this is because of my bad voice too.
    >
    > Oh, yes. I hate my voice quite a bit. My accent is terrible. Then, people find
    > things to complain about such as I don't speak loud enough, I don't speak
    > enough, etc. They always find ways to embarass me on it by being incredibly
    > rude in how they phrase it. It gets really old.

    this is really sad, i understand you.

    Everybody thinks i am a woman when i speak on the phone and you can imagine the state of shame i am each time, can`t you?

    i think i would like to do was singing. I would like to sing a lightin'hopkins' blues with a guitar, or i would like to sing a schubert lieder. I simply can't.

    At least i have my morrissey songs to cry and sing.

    >
    > > Oh, yes - I have not a good voice to sing on-key most of songs I
    > > know.
    > > Yes, but after nine hours of a going and returning trip I
    > > thought I would become crazy :))))
    >
    > well, we can't blame you. at least you didn't start muttering incoherently to
    > yourself.

    when i was in my lynux story i thought i would begin to do it.
     
  18. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    movie star

    > hello suzanne!!!

    > I really can't believe I'm talking to you, as yesterday was a
    > "terror night" (I had to
    > correct almost 200 examens and projects from my students) and
    > today i did the major mess
    > i did in months: i bought a lynux system and i tried to put in
    > my computer...

    > oh you can't imagine my pain, Suzanne. I install the lynux
    > system but i couldn't boot my
    > computer again (from lynux or from windows) anymore. My wife was
    > so angry with me, as
    > she had important work things in my computer. So I called my
    > computer assistant and he
    > said i probably had lost everything I had in my computer! But he
    > helped me to do the
    > boot again: so i went to my office by (it was sunday evening)
    > but i didn't bring the
    > windows98 cd, and i didn`t knew i dad to have it... so i
    > returned to my office with the
    > windows98 to make a boot diskette... that had a problem in the
    > end of its creation...

    > I had almost lose my hopes when I really got the boot from the
    > cd! So after some further
    > sufferances I installed again the Windows98 in my computer... oh
    > it was so easy! I won't
    > say bad things against bill gates anymore :)

    > i've lost some 6 or more Gb of HD in this experience, but I have
    > hopes my often wrong
    > computer assistant will get it again from lynux to windows.

    hmm. sounds very dangerous. did you lose your wife's stuff? that's even more dangerous!

    Right now, i'm having some mint flavored hot tea. I think I'm coming down with something and I'm trying things medicinal and otherwise to keep my sinuses open.

    ooh yeah, *achoo!*

    i felt so tired at Kendo today that I could barely do anything, but I chalked it up to what I did yesterday.

    I was on a movie set for 12 hours. Some cheesey teenage flick called "The Wrong Guy" was looking for extras to be in their movie.

    What we had to do was be part of the crowd for the big football game. The first scene was a knock-off of Braveheart. the name of the football team was the Highlanders, complete with bagpipe player and the guy who played mini-me from the 2nd Austin Powers film. The main guy, some actor I've never heard of, is on a horse with his face painted. He throws his sword down and leads the charge of all the extras down the hill and into the stadium.

    This scene was very tricky because it was a cow pasture! Imagine what your trying to avoid stepping in. That, and the ground was very bumpy. Hard to run on uneven terrain even if it doesn;t have cow pies scattered through it.

    The rest of it was much easier with us sitting in the stands and reacting to an imaginary football game. They were going for cheesey, and boy did I give them cheesey! I came up with as many goofy faces as I could. We'll see how much they liked it when the movie comes out.

    The most famous person I saw was the guy who played Mini-Me. I didn't know any of the rest of them.

    > I simply don`t know how to boot my lynux system that now is
    > possibly in my computer as a
    > snakes' egg.

    > But I am here, writing this message to you and hearing this
    > great double cd I bought
    > yesterday: a lightin'hopkins' entire life anthology.

    > I can tell you I am happy now, you see?

    sounds like it. I've been amusing myself with Badly Drawn Boy.

    > with little tears in my eyes, but that's ok... :))

    > and you can ask me a question of course: "why this
    > non-specialized in computers systems
    > idiot tried to get his lynux system alone?". I don't the
    > answer for sure, as I'm doing
    > this question to myself too!

    hmm. the only thing I can think of is if you had managed to erase Windows first. You may have had a software conflict. When you do something like that, you really have to wipe the hard drive clean.

    > you are too smart, suzanne! I thought you couldn't understand
    > the word "dois" and you
    > would say I was crazy! I failed again.

    deux-french
    dos-spanish
    due (i think that's right...Italian?)

    I figured it was something.

    > well, luckily I didn't have this absurd hunger anymore - I think
    > I am fitted with the
    > hot weather is doing these days.

    > Yes, I finally have perceived it, and I try to control myself
    > even if the meals are
    > really excellent (as the one i had at lunch today. Do you know
    > what a "churrasco" mean?

    i have no idea. my knowledge of foreign cuisine is very limited.

    > do you know if giving classes is some kind of exercise? if so,
    > well, I'm doing my
    > exercises... but I simply couldn't do more than it anymore.

    i understand. that stuff eats up your life.

    i go walking on my lunchbreak as much as I can. I'll have to pick that up now that kendo will be on hiatus for a while.

    > Yes, i would say it's rather completely subconscious - when the
    > thing comes to your
    > conscience you can fight more easily against it.

    > but are you sure about this plot?

    hmm. well, here are my suspicions:

    I can't imagine at least two of the 5 people getting voted for employee of the month by anyone period. I might have gotten one or votes if I was lucky, but I see most of the votes going to this other girl mostly out of popularity, and our boss because she makes it sounds like she's been slaving away since we are short-handed, but in reality is no busier than usual.

    But it's the nature of sales people to do such a thing. To get people pumped up right before you're about to rip them off.

    > why? sorry but i didn`t understand what did you mean here.

    i'm covering the job that they are thinking about not hiring anyone for.

    > but... aren`t you too cruel with yourself? I just know one
    > picture of yours, and it's
    > not bad at all...

    > you see? I always had problems with my photos as well as you
    > have. But even with the
    > stupid and childish face I see in my own photos people still
    > talks to me, so I can`t
    > care anymore about my image.

    oh, i'm not being hard on myself because I know i look better than that. i'm being hard on the guy who took the picture. The way he tilted my head down to where it was drawn and folds of my neck and chin suddenly appearing when there were previously none should have been easily been seen as not flattering.

    > ok, but again don`t you think you are cruel with yourself?

    > yes, i've thought about it... if the movie is good for the
    > public this probably will
    > influence on critics' opinions.

    > ah good thing in liking old kitsch songs is that you completely
    > lose your "cool level"
    > :)

    > hehehe... it's good that somebody at his age is still looking
    > for something in life... a
    > good way of keeping alive! :)

    Yes, but it's kind of sad this sort of movie he's doing. I personally found it a bit offensive as it being a story line of the great white father figure helps the poor black boy from the Bronx, made more offensive by the boy perpetually carrying a basketball with him everywhere he goes. They should have given him a bucket of chitlins and a slice of watermelon and be done with it.

    > well, you should belive yourself more the next times, don`t you
    > think?

    > and have you already finished some book?

    yes. i've had it finished for some time. I wrote it at work. It's great when you are bored and are forced to sit in front of the computer and look busy.

    > well, it was not that you sent me, was it?

    oh no. not at all. there is another one, but right now, it would take too much manuevering to scan and upload it and I just feel like sitting here and trying to will this headache away.

    > well, I have never had too much patience to read his lyrics, but
    > the few I have read
    > seemed very original and well did.

    > Strange thing I saw today in a too mainstream program in the
    > most mainstream brazilian
    > channel an interview with eminem! he is a handsome guy, isn't
    > it? :) i liked him.

    yeah, he's not bad looking, but I've never really been one to go for blond guys that much.

    > no, unfortunately not... it's just ignorance. I know what
    > "naughty" is and what "bits"
    > are, but the phrase did little sense to me. Perhaps i have to
    > read it again :)

    *sigh*

    his manhood?
    the family jewels?
    weiner?

    how about those?

    > but what i never understood is southpaw was not from RCA? so
    > what de deal with reprise?
    > and the rarities were from his previous record deal, so I still
    > don`t understand why
    > putting southpaw songs in a "rarities" album. It still
    > seems a Morrissey way of doing
    > things - as he did it during the smiths.

    rarities and the overlooked as he termed it.

    > there's no doubt about it.

    > hey, I've sent the clip where we can see bono and morrissey
    > together - it's really
    > moving!

    yes, Moz is so cute in his glasses.

    > am i that boring? :-(

    i meant you should say 'hi' to dad.

    > yes, but there's a terrible irrationalism in it too. I know a
    > girl who had a violent boyfriend, that sometimes times hit her,
    > and each day he seemed still more violent. But the girl simply
    > couldn't forget him! she said he "did some
    > "correct" things like being aggressive with those who
    > tried to speak at her.

    > I simply can`t understand this kind of girls - well, and as i
    > don`t like men in a sexual way :)-) ), i simply can't understand
    > how this girl can be so stupid.

    It has to do with how she was raised and what she saw her dad do and all that. If someone isn't instilled any sort of self worth, they begin to imagine that they should be treated like that because they are bad people. In all honesty, if she saw a nice guy, she would probably think "but what would he want with me?" and completely forget about it.

    > heheh... i all can say is that i would never have any chance
    > with a girl like that! :)

    > anyway, i see that several girls think that way - and i really
    > think it's irrationalism (biology?)

    no, there is a reason for it.

    You realize that the moment you are born, your brain is this clean slate with no ideas programmed into it. You don't know what to think of yourself in relation to the world around you. You can't communicate outside of crying as a signal of wanting food or sleep. When someone speaks to you, you don't know what they are saying. But you are being treated in a certain way. How? Because you spend a lot of time being held by people and being cared by them. You can tell how quickly someone runs to your aid if you are hurt or hungry. You can feel them if they move you around impatiently because they are tired of you, and the look on their face that accomapanies their anger. And if that is all you see for the first few years of your life, you think that this is normal.

    So yes, at a very young age you start getting some idea of your level of importance in the grand scale of it all.

    > yes, for sure.

    > do you have some another idea?

    > oh, for sure. I didn't think about that :)

    > well, i don`t use to say some things in front of girls... do you
    > think i have to change?

    it depends. some girls enjoy reminding guys that they are girls.

    > yes, but they are much more interestings when they speak with
    > men... and men are much less interestings when they speak to
    > other ones.

    > Anyway, there's a joke i read in internet that seems true
    > someway: there are two women talking to each other, one saying
    > marvelous things about the other's clothes and vice-versa, and
    > each one thinking horrible things about the other woman; and
    > they compare these two women's behaviour with two men making
    > jokes saying horrible things to each other and both thinking
    > marvelous things about his friend...

    i guess that does happen.

    > there's some reality in it - women seem to be always in
    > competition against her female friends, what is not so normal in
    > men's behaviour.

    i wouldn't exactly say that. there is lots of competetion when it comes to getting girls. I know one guy that is angry at another for perpetually hitting on the same girls that he is trying to hit on.

    > that's ok if the woman has other interests too.

    > there's no logic but sometime men are closed minded and they
    > simply don`t know what to do to please women. Even I think women
    > are very difficult to please sometimes. :)

    > but he is not gay, is it?

    oh lord no. He's 13 and is discovering girls.

    > what hotwheels mean?

    tiny race cars.

    > i know i must irritate you with my ignorance sometimes...

    you can't know everything. otherwise, what good would i be to you? :^)

    > do you still have them?

    no.

    > i don`t have anything from my old old times... i live in a very
    > small apartment...

    > yes, but i don`t know if i'm spoiling them...

    > what does it mean? :)

    > i had my critic career too in the biggest local newspaper, as i
    > am a close friend from the critic who was the boss of the
    > teenage page - but he was fired of this page and this career of
    > mine suddenly finished... anyway i don`t know how many hours i
    > could sleep by night if this continued - it's 3 oçlock now and i
    > have to wake up very early tomorrow.

    that sucks.

    > but you would have a fix place to put your stories, and then you
    > could be known.

    > Talking about stories, sorry but i couldn't read yours recent
    > one this night - i hope i'll do it tomorrow. Perhaps i'll print
    > it to read in the bus!

    that's OK. it's not going anywhere.

    > i see, but sometimes i am impressed by the bodies of my 19-year
    > old students...

    yes, i understand.

    > well, her decadence was concentrated in her music.

    > this is really sad, i understand you.

    > Everybody thinks i am a woman when i speak on the phone and you
    > can imagine the state of shame i am each time, can`t you?

    hmm. yeah, that must be sort of rough.

    mine gets a bit grovelly. i think i also have a speech impediment of some sort because I feel myself tripping over the same words and i pronounce some of them funny to where people sometimes don't understand what I'm saying. and sometimes it feels like dyslexia of the speech because it feels like it takes longer for me to think of the words than should be normal when I'm speaking. at any rate, i don't feel like i'm nearly as capable of carrying out a conversation verbally as I am writing. it pops out normally around here. it's no mistake that I can't speak french worth a crap and read it just fine.

    > i think i would like to do was singing. I would like to sing a
    > lightin'hopkins' blues with a guitar, or i would like to sing a
    > schubert lieder. I simply can't.

    well, you shouldn't let talent stop ya from having fun. i perpetually try and sing things that I should not attempt when I'm in the safety of my house.

    > At least i have my morrissey songs to cry and sing.

    > when i was in my lynux story i thought i would begin to do it.

    oh well. computers can only do so much, right? But God knows I would miss it if it disappeared tomorrow.
     
  19. Fabricio

    Fabricio Guest

    Re: movie star

    > > hello suzanne!!!
    >
    > > I really can't believe I'm talking to you, as yesterday was a
    > > "terror night" (I had to
    > > correct almost 200 examens and projects from my students) and
    > > today i did the major mess
    > > i did in months: i bought a lynux system and i tried to put in
    > > my computer...
    >
    > > oh you can't imagine my pain, Suzanne. I install the lynux
    > > system but i couldn't boot my
    > > computer again (from lynux or from windows) anymore. My wife was
    > > so angry with me, as
    > > she had important work things in my computer. So I called my
    > > computer assistant and he
    > > said i probably had lost everything I had in my computer! But he
    > > helped me to do the
    > > boot again: so i went to my office by (it was sunday evening)
    > > but i didn't bring the
    > > windows98 cd, and i didn`t knew i dad to have it... so i
    > > returned to my office with the
    > > windows98 to make a boot diskette... that had a problem in the
    > > end of its creation...
    >
    > > I had almost lose my hopes when I really got the boot from the
    > > cd! So after some further
    > > sufferances I installed again the Windows98 in my computer... oh
    > > it was so easy! I won't
    > > say bad things against bill gates anymore :)
    >
    > > i've lost some 6 or more Gb of HD in this experience, but I have
    > > hopes my often wrong
    > > computer assistant will get it again from lynux to windows.
    >
    > hmm. sounds very dangerous.

    yes, I agree. Why I like to live dangerously? :))

    > did you lose your wife's stuff? that's even more
    > dangerous!

    Fortunately I didn't lost it and I don't want to imagine what would become of me if I
    did it! :)

    >
    > Right now, i'm having some mint flavored hot tea. I think I'm coming down with
    > something and I'm trying things medicinal and otherwise to keep my sinuses
    > open.
    >
    > ooh yeah, *achoo!*

    oh poor Suzanne. How are you now?

    I thought I was getting a flu the night from Monday to Tuesday because I was so tired
    and I had pain in my body and I pratically couldn't sleep. Yesterday night I was like
    this too, as I wrote you. But almost miraculously I am much better today. My daughter is
    sleeping and I'm writing much earlier than I use to (it's exactly 19:37 pm now).

    Well, probably she'll wake up in when Í'll be writing, so I'll have to finish this
    message at night! :)

    I am hearing Bach now - oh it's so wonderful!

    >
    > i felt so tired at Kendo today that I could barely do anything, but I chalked
    > it up to what I did yesterday.

    well, are we feeling sick toghether?

    This seems dangerous! :)

    Just kidding...

    >
    > I was on a movie set for 12 hours. Some cheesey teenage flick called "The
    > Wrong Guy" was looking for extras to be in their movie.

    oh, I have to see this film!

    >
    > What we had to do was be part of the crowd for the big football game. The
    > first scene was a knock-off of Braveheart. the name of the football team was
    > the Highlanders, complete with bagpipe player and the guy who played mini-me
    > from the 2nd Austin Powers film.

    oh, I didn't see this film unfortunately - probably I'll have to do it the next days.

    > The main guy, some actor I've never heard of,
    > is on a horse with his face painted. He throws his sword down and leads the
    > charge of all the extras down the hill and into the stadium.

    so you were lead by a man on a horse with his face painted? this is amazing!

    you see, I would like to make something like that in a film. There was a time when I
    wanted to be a TV actor, because I dreamt frequently I was one.

    >
    > This scene was very tricky because it was a cow pasture! Imagine what your
    > trying to avoid stepping in.

    well, I usually hate this kind of dirty adventures, but I would probably love do it in a
    film.

    > That, and the ground was very bumpy. Hard to run
    > on uneven terrain even if it doesn;t have cow pies scattered through it.

    well, this are the problems movie stars use to deal with, don't they? It's the bad side
    of this rather wonderful profession.

    >
    > The rest of it was much easier with us sitting in the stands and reacting to
    > an imaginary football game. They were going for cheesey, and boy did I give
    > them cheesey!

    I can imagine what's it but I don`t know exactly what cheesey is.

    > I came up with as many goofy faces as I could. We'll see how
    > much they liked it when the movie comes out.

    hehehe...

    >
    > The most famous person I saw was the guy who played Mini-Me. I didn't know any
    > of the rest of them.

    Oh, I don't know him - but I'll try to do it!

    >
    > > I simply don`t know how to boot my lynux system that now is
    > > possibly in my computer as a
    > > snakes' egg.
    >
    > > But I am here, writing this message to you and hearing this
    > > great double cd I bought
    > > yesterday: a lightin'hopkins' entire life anthology.
    >
    > > I can tell you I am happy now, you see?
    >
    > sounds like it. I've been amusing myself with Badly Drawn Boy.
    >
    > > with little tears in my eyes, but that's ok... :))
    >
    > > and you can ask me a question of course: "why this
    > > non-specialized in computers systems
    > > idiot tried to get his lynux system alone?". I don't the
    > > answer for sure, as I'm doing
    > > this question to myself too!
    >
    > hmm. the only thing I can think of is if you had managed to erase Windows
    > first. You may have had a software conflict. When you do something like that,
    > you really have to wipe the hard drive clean.

    A friend of mine told me exactly this today, and that this is the easier way to install
    Lynux. But in fact it's possible to share your HD, but Lynux people made it so difficult
    that it seems impossible. I think they don`'t want anybody with another system outside
    Lynux. They are the new Bill Gates, you know. :)

    >
    > > you are too smart, suzanne! I thought you couldn't understand
    > > the word "dois" and you
    > > would say I was crazy! I failed again.
    >
    > deux-french
    > dos-spanish
    > due (i think that's right...Italian?)
    >
    > I figured it was something.

    it was a good experience to me as I'm seeing it's not worth to say things in portuguese
    hoping that you won't understand it! :)

    >
    > > well, luckily I didn't have this absurd hunger anymore - I think
    > > I am fitted with the
    > > hot weather is doing these days.
    >
    > > Yes, I finally have perceived it, and I try to control myself
    > > even if the meals are
    > > really excellent (as the one i had at lunch today. Do you know
    > > what a "churrasco" mean?
    >
    > i have no idea. my knowledge of foreign cuisine is very limited.

    It's a very popular meat from South of Brazil. People make put lots of meat (T-bone, I
    think) under fire made of charcoal. The meat is tempered normally with some sea salt (I
    don't know if it's called like that).
    It's wonderful.

    Well, Brazilian eats lots of meat (not the very poor obviously). People from Europe or
    Japan are usually astonished when they see it here.

    >
    > > do you know if giving classes is some kind of exercise? if so,
    > > well, I'm doing my
    > > exercises... but I simply couldn't do more than it anymore.
    >
    > i understand. that stuff eats up your life.

    you explainde perfectly what I feel...

    ...well, fortunately there are some cute students to see, you see? :)

    >
    > i go walking on my lunchbreak as much as I can.

    oh, it's wonderful to walk. When I stopped to do it I saw how much I missed it.

    > I'll have to pick that up now
    > that kendo will be on hiatus for a while.

    this hiatus is because of the Christmas parties?

    >
    > > Yes, i would say it's rather completely subconscious - when the
    > > thing comes to your
    > > conscience you can fight more easily against it.
    >
    > > but are you sure about this plot?
    >
    > hmm. well, here are my suspicions:
    >
    > I can't imagine at least two of the 5 people getting voted for employee of the
    > month by anyone period. I might have gotten one or votes if I was lucky, but I
    > see most of the votes going to this other girl mostly out of popularity, and
    > our boss because she makes it sounds like she's been slaving away since we are
    > short-handed, but in reality is no busier than usual.

    I had a boss like this - he always complained of working to much, but the only thing he
    really did was
    bother others...

    Ok, he did it a lot. If you call this a work, he worked too much :)

    >
    > But it's the nature of sales people to do such a thing. To get people pumped
    > up right before you're about to rip them off.

    well, as you have told me probably this other girl out of popularity is the one to be
    puped of, isn't she?

    >
    > > why? sorry but i didn`t understand what did you mean here.
    >
    > i'm covering the job that they are thinking about not hiring anyone for.

    oh.

    >
    > > but... aren`t you too cruel with yourself? I just know one
    > > picture of yours, and it's
    > > not bad at all...
    >
    > > you see? I always had problems with my photos as well as you
    > > have. But even with the
    > > stupid and childish face I see in my own photos people still
    > > talks to me, so I can`t
    > > care anymore about my image.
    >
    > oh, i'm not being hard on myself because I know i look better than that. i'm
    > being hard on the guy who took the picture. The way he tilted my head down to
    > where it was drawn and folds of my neck and chin suddenly appearing when there
    > were previously none should have been easily been seen as not flattering.

    oh, I'm glad you are not so hard on yourself... and well, if you look into his eyes and
    you saw a bad look there you probably are correct.

    But sometimes we imagine things.

    I remember I good boss I had but who didn't talk a lot, and I always imagined he hated
    me - but posterior facts showed me he was a good character and I simply imagined things
    because he was silent.

    >
    > > ok, but again don`t you think you are cruel with yourself?
    >
    > > yes, i've thought about it... if the movie is good for the
    > > public this probably will
    > > influence on critics' opinions.
    >
    > > ah good thing in liking old kitsch songs is that you completely
    > > lose your "cool level"
    > > :)
    >
    > > hehehe... it's good that somebody at his age is still looking
    > > for something in life... a
    > > good way of keeping alive! :)
    >
    > Yes, but it's kind of sad this sort of movie he's doing. I personally found it
    > a bit offensive as it being a story line of the great white father figure
    > helps the poor black boy from the Bronx, made more offensive by the boy
    > perpetually carrying a basketball with him everywhere he goes.

    a sort of hidden racism, isn't it? as you said black people have to be helped to be
    somebody.

    > They should
    > have given him a bucket of chitlins and a slice of watermelon and be done with
    > it.

    To carry watermelons from the neck to receive attention from others? oh we have exactly
    this expression!

    > > well, you should belive yourself more the next times, don`t you
    > > think?
    >
    > > and have you already finished some book?
    >
    > yes. i've had it finished for some time. I wrote it at work.

    oh this is great! I'm very interested as you may expect.

    > It's great when
    > you are bored and are forced to sit in front of the computer and look busy.

    hehehe... i did it a lot in my former work but now it's not possible anymore, because
    everyboy are in my back and they can see what I'm doing... and my father see me with
    "those" eyes... :)

    >
    > > well, it was not that you sent me, was it?
    >
    > oh no. not at all. there is another one, but right now, it would take too much
    > manuevering to scan and upload it

    I understand you - I hate scanning things. It's so boring...

    >and I just feel like sitting here and trying
    > to will this headache away.

    Oh, i hope you are better now.

    >
    > > well, I have never had too much patience to read his lyrics, but
    > > the few I have read
    > > seemed very original and well did.
    >
    > > Strange thing I saw today in a too mainstream program in the
    > > most mainstream brazilian
    > > channel an interview with eminem! he is a handsome guy, isn't
    > > it? :) i liked him.
    >
    > yeah, he's not bad looking, but I've never really been one to go for blond
    > guys that much.

    ok, but he's not blond! :)

    >
    > > no, unfortunately not... it's just ignorance. I know what
    > > "naughty" is and what "bits"
    > > are, but the phrase did little sense to me. Perhaps i have to
    > > read it again :)
    >
    > *sigh*
    >
    > his manhood?
    > the family jewels?
    > weiner?
    >
    > how about those?

    well, now you are messing me... :)

    well, the original phrase follows:

    "
    I have to thank Melody Maker for introducing me to that phrase....

    it's a euphemism, and no, you can't see them in the pic. I just thought it was
    an odd thing to break off the (let's use Monty Python for this) naughty bits
    on a tombstone
    "

    heheh, the thing became funny.

    I don't know why but I'm laughing now.

    >
    > > but what i never understood is southpaw was not from RCA? so
    > > what de deal with reprise?
    > > and the rarities were from his previous record deal, so I still
    > > don`t understand why
    > > putting southpaw songs in a "rarities" album. It still
    > > seems a Morrissey way of doing
    > > things - as he did it during the smiths.
    >
    > rarities and the overlooked as he termed it.

    perhaps he like opposite things puting together.

    The sequence of songs before his recent shows for example.

    Hey, I understand him! :)

    >
    > > there's no doubt about it.
    >
    > > hey, I've sent the clip where we can see bono and morrissey
    > > together - it's really
    > > moving!
    >
    > yes, Moz is so cute in his glasses.

    bono seems to like him, isn't he?

    >
    > > am i that boring?

    >
    > i meant you should say 'hi' to dad.

    oh really? sorry then.

    >
    > > yes, but there's a terrible irrationalism in it too. I know a
    > > girl who had a violent boyfriend, that sometimes times hit her,
    > > and each day he seemed still more violent. But the girl simply
    > > couldn't forget him! she said he "did some
    > > "correct" things like being aggressive with those who
    > > tried to speak at her.
    >
    > > I simply can`t understand this kind of girls - well, and as i
    > > don`t like men in a sexual way :)-) ), i simply can't understand
    > > how this girl can be so stupid.
    >
    > It has to do with how she was raised and what she saw her dad do and all that.
    > If someone isn't instilled any sort of self worth, they begin to imagine that
    > they should be treated like that because they are bad people. In all honesty,
    > if she saw a nice guy, she would probably think "but what would he want with
    > me?" and completely forget about it.

    perhaps some of them are really like that, but what I use to see is that many girls see
    as qualities some of the worst defects a man can have, as a great agressiveness or
    machism.

    well, perhaps I am the wrong guy and these are really qualities...

    >
    > > heheh... i all can say is that i would never have any chance
    > > with a girl like that! :)
    >
    > > anyway, i see that several girls think that way - and i really
    > > think it's irrationalism (biology?)
    >
    > no, there is a reason for it.
    >
    > You realize that the moment you are born, your brain is this clean slate with
    > no ideas programmed into it. You don't know what to think of yourself in
    > relation to the world around you. You can't communicate outside of crying as a
    > signal of wanting food or sleep. When someone speaks to you, you don't know
    > what they are saying. But you are being treated in a certain way. How? Because
    > you spend a lot of time being held by people and being cared by them. You can
    > tell how quickly someone runs to your aid if you are hurt or hungry. You can
    > feel them if they move you around impatiently because they are tired of you,
    > and the look on their face that accomapanies their anger. And if that is all
    > you see for the first few years of your life, you think that this is normal.

    so do you think that just social relations are important to create a personality?

    I don't agree with you - we have some biological desires (as sex for example), and they make part of our personality too. I don't know which percentage social and biological aspects have in our personality but I'm sure both are present.

    You see, it makes sense the point some biologists say that if a girl wants a cute guy, she wants her children cute too. But how important is this biological side I really don't know.

    It seems nobody does in fact :)

    >
    > So yes, at a very young age you start getting some idea of your level of
    > importance in the grand scale of it all.

    Oh, I have to pay a great attention to my daughter...

    you see, it's 1:41 am at now - she really woked up and I am returning now... :)

    >
    > > yes, for sure.
    >
    > > do you have some another idea?
    >
    > > oh, for sure. I didn't think about that :)
    >
    > > well, i don`t use to say some things in front of girls... do you
    > > think i have to change?
    >
    > it depends. some girls enjoy reminding guys that they are girls.

    heheh... that's why we know how to deal with you!

    >
    > > yes, but they are much more interestings when they speak with
    > > men... and men are much less interestings when they speak to
    > > other ones.
    >
    > > Anyway, there's a joke i read in internet that seems true
    > > someway: there are two women talking to each other, one saying
    > > marvelous things about the other's clothes and vice-versa, and
    > > each one thinking horrible things about the other woman; and
    > > they compare these two women's behaviour with two men making
    > > jokes saying horrible things to each other and both thinking
    > > marvelous things about his friend...
    >
    > i guess that does happen.

    everybody agrees with my on this point. :)
    >
    > > there's some reality in it - women seem to be always in
    > > competition against her female friends, what is not so normal in
    > > men's behaviour.
    >
    > i wouldn't exactly say that. there is lots of competetion when it comes to
    > getting girls. I know one guy that is angry at another for perpetually hitting
    > on the same girls that he is trying to hit on.

    oh yeah, this happen too. But I think this is more frequent with women. That's why some nice girls prefer men's company.

    So the nice girls come to talk with us!

    That's why I prefer women's company in the end.

    Am I digressing too much here?
    >
    > > that's ok if the woman has other interests too.
    >
    > > there's no logic but sometime men are closed minded and they
    > > simply don`t know what to do to please women. Even I think women
    > > are very difficult to please sometimes. :)
    >
    > > but he is not gay, is it?
    >
    > oh lord no. He's 13 and is discovering girls.

    this is the worst phase.

    At least it was for me.

    >
    > > what hotwheels mean?
    >
    > tiny race cars.
    >
    > > i know i must irritate you with my ignorance sometimes...
    >
    > you can't know everything. otherwise, what good would i be to you? :^)

    I don't know if I should say so but you give me much much more than that.

    >
    > > do you still have them?
    >
    > no.
    >
    > > i don`t have anything from my old old times... i live in a very
    > > small apartment...
    >
    > > yes, but i don`t know if i'm spoiling them...
    >
    > > what does it mean? :)
    >
    > > i had my critic career too in the biggest local newspaper, as i
    > > am a close friend from the critic who was the boss of the
    > > teenage page - but he was fired of this page and this career of
    > > mine suddenly finished... anyway i don`t know how many hours i
    > > could sleep by night if this continued - it's 3 oçlock now and i
    > > have to wake up very early tomorrow.
    >
    > that sucks.

    oh yeah - but I have to deal with it.

    >
    > > but you would have a fix place to put your stories, and then you
    > > could be known.
    >
    > > Talking about stories, sorry but i couldn't read yours recent
    > > one this night - i hope i'll do it tomorrow. Perhaps i'll print
    > > it to read in the bus!
    >
    > that's OK. it's not going anywhere.

    oh I read it on the bus and I really enjoyed it. For example, the driver of Moz stuff was great! And all the story was really amazing.

    But the first one, you see? I saw some coincidences there, and I don't know how to ask about them...

    >
    > > i see, but sometimes i am impressed by the bodies of my 19-year
    > > old students...
    >
    > yes, i understand.

    but not that much, you see? :)

    >
    > > well, her decadence was concentrated in her music.
    >
    > > this is really sad, i understand you.
    >
    > > Everybody thinks i am a woman when i speak on the phone and you
    > > can imagine the state of shame i am each time, can`t you?
    >
    > hmm. yeah, that must be sort of rough.
    >
    > mine gets a bit grovelly. i think i also have a speech impediment of some sort
    > because I feel myself tripping over the same words and i pronounce some of
    > them funny to where people sometimes don't understand what I'm saying.

    I have this problem too - I have a, I don't know how to say it in English, skin under my tongue bigger than the normal that makes my pronouncing funny. In portuguese we called it língua-presa (bounded-tongue ??)

    > and
    > sometimes it feels like dyslexia of the speech because it feels like it takes
    > longer for me to think of the words than should be normal when I'm speaking.
    > at any rate, i don't feel like i'm nearly as capable of carrying out a
    > conversation verbally as I am writing.

    I understand, and I am a little bit like that.

    > it pops out normally around here. it's
    > no mistake that I can't speak french worth a crap and read it just fine.

    well, I can speak french but I studied it during 10 years.... :)

    >
    > > i think i would like to do was singing. I would like to sing a
    > > lightin'hopkins' blues with a guitar, or i would like to sing a
    > > schubert lieder. I simply can't.
    >
    > well, you shouldn't let talent stop ya from having fun. i perpetually try and
    > sing things that I should not attempt when I'm in the safety of my house.

    yes, you are correct. I thought about it already.

    I would like to take an accoustic guitar (I played it a little bit) and sing an old blues song. Just for me.

    And I should speak better german to try to make bad things with Schubert! :)

    Anyway, I can sing some kitsch Brazilian songs - it's funny, it's easy and you don't even use an instrument!

    I'll try to :)

    and as for morrissey? I carry his songs as if they made part of me.

    >
    > > At least i have my morrissey songs to cry and sing.
    >
    > > when i was in my lynux story i thought i would begin to do it.
    >
    > oh well. computers can only do so much, right? But God knows I would miss it
    > if it disappeared tomorrow.

    I thought about it all the time during my "Lynux adventure"... it almost makes part of me already.
     
  20. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    Re: movie star

    > yes, I agree. Why I like to live dangerously? :))

    > Fortunately I didn't lost it and I don't want to imagine what
    > would become of me if I
    > did it! :)

    > oh poor Suzanne. How are you now?

    it was a false alarm. I have no idea what that was except the speculation that the one day I was out in the cow pasture didn't agree with my sinuses.

    But jeez, I was tired on sunday.

    i was sort of praying for illness. a day off from everything. I do that until I get sick and then I wise up and remember why i hate being sick.

    I sort of got that when the weather turned bad and there was ice on the road, but I wasted it by getting up nearly on time this morning. I thought everyone would be there, but I beat the next closest person in by an hour.

    > I thought I was getting a flu the night from Monday to Tuesday
    > because I was so tired
    > and I had pain in my body and I pratically couldn't sleep.
    > Yesterday night I was like
    > this too, as I wrote you. But almost miraculously I am much
    > better today. My daughter is
    > sleeping and I'm writing much earlier than I use to (it's
    > exactly 19:37 pm now).

    > Well, probably she'll wake up in when Í'll be writing, so I'll
    > have to finish this
    > message at night! :)

    don;'t want her seeing what your hobbies are?

    > I am hearing Bach now - oh it's so wonderful!

    I'm listening to Blur. i got it a couple of hours ago because i had this weird craving for it.

    > well, are we feeling sick toghether?

    > This seems dangerous! :)

    > Just kidding...

    > oh, I have to see this film!

    > oh, I didn't see this film unfortunately - probably I'll have to
    > do it the next days.

    haven't you seen the guy who plays the miniature version of Dr. Evil?? The midget!

    > so you were lead by a man on a horse with his face painted? this
    > is amazing!

    it was funny and strange at the same time.

    despite that and being there for 12 hours, I enjoyed it.

    > you see, I would like to make something like that in a film.
    > There was a time when I
    > wanted to be a TV actor, because I dreamt frequently I was one.

    I've always had that dream. I sort of got a little start way back in highschool when I did a couple of plays, but it was miserable with a very odd ending to it all.

    I remember my first play that I was a librarian in Up the Downstair Case. It was a small role and I got it mostly because they couldn't get enough people to be in the play.

    Anyway, it was a battle of me vs. everyone else. Even though I had tiny scenes, the drama teacher kept picking on me perpetually like I was the worst thing. The bitch even stole my script when she couldn't find hers and played dumb when I came around looking for it. Everyone on the cast was a bunch of the popular kids who weren't exactly forgiving.

    So, the opening night comes, and I'm like "screw it" and I went up on stage and delivered my first line and walked off and EVERYBODY in the audience started laughing. Considering the treatment I had been getting for the past month, I knew they were laughing at how bad I was and some guy back stage even offered consolation because he thought that they too were laughing at me.

    So, I went backstage just kind of dejected and wondering why I was there. Then, my next part came up, and I did that, and they laughed again, but this time I heard someone say, "she's wonderful!"

    There was a comment box near the entrance where some anonymous people left some nice comments. The Vice principal loved it. For the next year he kept coming up to me wanting me to do those lines again.

    For the life of me, I couldn't figure out why I was being treated like @#!!! by everyone involved in the production, but everyone else really went for it. I still can't.

    > I can imagine what's it but I don`t know exactly what cheesey
    > is.

    very garish and overdone, but in a sappy kind of way.

    > hehehe...

    > Oh, I don't know him - but I'll try to do it!

    > A friend of mine told me exactly this today, and that this is
    > the easier way to install
    > Lynux. But in fact it's possible to share your HD, but Lynux
    > people made it so difficult
    > that it seems impossible. I think they don`'t want anybody with
    > another system outside
    > Lynux. They are the new Bill Gates, you know. :)

    That's the way they all are.

    > it was a good experience to me as I'm seeing it's not worth to
    > say things in portuguese
    > hoping that you won't understand it! :)

    don't get me wrong. if you do say many things in portugeuse, I won't understand. The little squiggly marks throw me off.

    > It's a very popular meat from South of Brazil. People make put
    > lots of meat (T-bone, I
    > think) under fire made of charcoal. The meat is tempered
    > normally with some sea salt (I
    > don't know if it's called like that).

    yes, we have it at the grocery store.

    > It's wonderful.

    i'll never know, but i'll take your word for it.

    > Well, Brazilian eats lots of meat (not the very poor obviously).
    > People from Europe or
    > Japan are usually astonished when they see it here.

    and you may be astonished going to Las Vegas where everything is served with t-bone steak. It's insane.

    > you explainde perfectly what I feel...

    > ...well, fortunately there are some cute students to see, you
    > see? :)

    > oh, it's wonderful to walk. When I stopped to do it I saw how
    > much I missed it.

    > this hiatus is because of the Christmas parties?

    yes. everyone going home for the holidays.

    > I had a boss like this - he always complained of working to
    > much, but the only thing he
    > really did was
    > bother others...

    i talked to the supervisor of our department today. Not really talked, but from what he asked me, I got the idea that he has no idea that I'm covering that second desk. Meaning someone else has been saying, "oh, I have to put ALL these formats in" and then turning around and asking me to do it.

    > Ok, he did it a lot. If you call this a work, he worked too much
    > :)

    > well, as you have told me probably this other girl out of
    > popularity is the one to be
    > puped of, isn't she?

    what?

    > oh.

    > oh, I'm glad you are not so hard on yourself... and well, if you
    > look into his eyes and
    > you saw a bad look there you probably are correct.

    > But sometimes we imagine things.

    > I remember I good boss I had but who didn't talk a lot, and I
    > always imagined he hated
    > me - but posterior facts showed me he was a good character and I
    > simply imagined things
    > because he was silent.

    > a sort of hidden racism, isn't it? as you said black people have
    > to be helped to be
    > somebody.

    yes.

    > To carry watermelons from the neck to receive attention from
    > others? oh we have exactly
    > this expression!

    no, i dont' think we mean the same thing.

    What I mean is a stereotype that all black people sit around and do nothing but eat watermelon and chitlins.

    There was a movie in the 70's called Watermelon Man. It played off of that. The movie was about some middle-bread white guy who wakes up one morning and finds he is black.

    > I understand you - I hate scanning things. It's so boring...

    > Oh, i hope you are better now.

    > ok, but he's not blond! :)

    bleach blond doesn't do it for me either...

    > well, now you are messing me... :)

    > well, the original phrase follows:

    > "
    > I have to thank Melody Maker for introducing me to that
    > phrase....

    > it's a euphemism, and no, you can't see them in the pic. I just
    > thought it was
    > an odd thing to break off the (let's use Monty Python for this)
    > naughty bits
    > on a tombstone
    > "

    > heheh, the thing became funny.

    > I don't know why but I'm laughing now.

    You should be! It was meant to be funny.

    > perhaps he like opposite things puting together.

    > The sequence of songs before his recent shows for example.

    Hmmm...I don't think anyone is going to break his arm if he changes it. It's customary. Sort of like "welcome to my turf"

    > Hey, I understand him! :)

    > bono seems to like him, isn't he?

    I suppose. Do they hang out? who knows!

    > oh really? sorry then.

    > perhaps some of them are really like that, but what I use to see
    > is that many girls see
    > as qualities some of the worst defects a man can have, as a
    > great agressiveness or
    > machism.

    > well, perhaps I am the wrong guy and these are really
    > qualities...

    > so do you think that just social relations are important to
    > create a personality?

    > I don't agree with you - we have some biological desires (as sex
    > for example), and they make part of our personality too. I don't
    > know which percentage social and biological aspects have in our
    > personality but I'm sure both are present.

    Oh, I'm not denying that we have the components to feel these things because obviously if we didn't have that part of our brain, we wouldn't be able to feel anything.

    What I mean is the meaning attached to what we do.

    For example, they did this study where they took a baby and dressed it in blue. They would wait for it to start crying and then leave it out for unsuspecting people to deal with. They would approach this assumably male baby and ask "oh, who made him angry?"

    When they took the same baby and dressed it in pink, people began asking, "oh, who scared her?"

    As you can obviously see, the baby was crying for the exact same reason when it was dressed in blue that it was dressed in pink. The reality hadn't changed. The only thing that changed was what people thought about the baby's cries.

    Dont' you see how powerful this is? The male child is being consoled in his anger, while the female is being consoled in her fright and inability to take care of herself.

    And you do realize that one year olds of any gender are equally incapable of defending themselves should a pack of wild dogs descend upon them?

    Anyway, as they grow up, they already have ingrained in them the ideas of what people find acceptable behavior.

    > You see, it makes sense the point some biologists say that if a
    > girl wants a cute guy, she wants her children cute too. But how
    > important is this biological side I really don't know.

    Biologists are freaks. I'm sorry. If you read any science literature through the ages, you notice it is full of very arcane interpretations about women and men. Just because it's the year 2000 doesn't mean they are any smarter than the year 1750. They are chauvinists who don't really get their heads out of their textbooks long enough to open their eyes and see what is really happening out there. Most of them are part of the idiot-bourgeois class, and the reason they got their degrees is because they know how to mix chemicals in a test tube for their big project.

    When i see a hot looking dude, I'm not thinking, "oh, I'll have cute children!" That's plain retarded. It's just like guys looking at girls. We realize that we're going to have to stare at this guy for the next few years and forgive us for wanting something that doesn't look like Sam Donaldson. I don't spend all my hours dreaming of neat ways I can procreate cute little babies.

    And as I was saying about meaning, when a guy sees a beautiful girl, do they think about what cute babies they are going to have? No, you would think that was dumb and so would the scientists.

    And furthermore, tell me something: if your daughter came up to you and asked for a toy truck, would you let her have it? would you steer her back to her dolls?

    > It seems nobody does in fact :)

    > Oh, I have to pay a great attention to my daughter...

    > you see, it's 1:41 am at now - she really woked up and I am
    > returning now... :)

    > heheh... that's why we know how to deal with you!

    > everybody agrees with my on this point. :)

    > oh yeah, this happen too. But I think this is more frequent with
    > women. That's why some nice girls prefer men's company.

    > So the nice girls come to talk with us!

    > That's why I prefer women's company in the end.

    > Am I digressing too much here?

    > this is the worst phase.

    > At least it was for me.

    it's a neverending phase.

    > I don't know if I should say so but you give me much much more
    > than that.

    > oh yeah - but I have to deal with it.

    > oh I read it on the bus and I really enjoyed it. For example,
    > the driver of Moz stuff was great! And all the story was really
    > amazing.

    strange how I started going in one direction and then that started popping in...like an extension of my first story.

    > But the first one, you see? I saw some coincidences there, and I
    > don't know how to ask about them...

    go ahead. I can't remember since the vast majority of that was written months ago.

    > but not that much, you see? :)

    > I have this problem too - I have a, I don't know how to say it
    > in English, skin under my tongue bigger than the normal that
    > makes my pronouncing funny. In portuguese we called it
    > língua-presa (bounded-tongue ??)

    never heard of it or the condition...

    > I understand, and I am a little bit like that.

    > well, I can speak french but I studied it during 10 years....
    > :)

    i would hope.

    > yes, you are correct. I thought about it already.

    > I would like to take an accoustic guitar (I played it a little
    > bit) and sing an old blues song. Just for me.

    i have an acoustic, but it sits and gathers dust.

    > And I should speak better german to try to make bad things with
    > Schubert! :)

    that might be frightening.

    > Anyway, I can sing some kitsch Brazilian songs - it's funny,
    > it's easy and you don't even use an instrument!

    > I'll try to :)

    > and as for morrissey? I carry his songs as if they made part of
    > me.

    i know they are made out of a part of me!

    he's a crazy little guy, but I swear when I read his bio, I felt like I was reading a lot of myself. Not in that music sense of I'm a depressed loner/outsider, but something in the thought process of getting from A to B. The same tendencies to duck out of things and be just overall slackers.

    > I thought about it all the time during my "Lynux
    > adventure"... it almost makes part of me already.

    The Lynux Blues with Schubert countermelodies....
     
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