David Cameron on Morrissey

[joe frady]

I used to believe that it was your moral duty to vote as people had fought and died for that right. Then someone made the point to me that what people fought and died for was the right to choose to vote or not to vote. That made sense to me, but I still vote. And I always feel like weeping when I do, for some reason. Bit sappy about it. Especially this time; I voted Labour

 

[Qvist]

I used to believe that it was your moral duty to vote as people had fought and died for that right. Then someone made the point to me that what people fought and died for was the right to choose to vote or not to vote.

Evelyn Waugh apparently refused to vote because he considered it presumptuous to advise the Queen on the choice of her council. In the nineteen fifties.

Well, you have to admire his stubbornness.

cheers

 

[Stuheff]

Evelyn Waugh, who was she?









Arf.

 

[the_kaz]

And now it is official....






...The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom is a Morrissey fan.

 

[Reelaround]

And now it is official....






...The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom is a Morrissey fan.

Yeah! Go the_kaz!

 

[jm26]

Any chance of Moz releasing an adapted version of "Margaret on The Guillotine", with the "Margaret" changed to "Cameron"?

Let's hope this Tory government implodes and we get rid of the c***s within 18 months.

 

[Reelaround]

Any chance of Moz releasing an adapted version of "Margaret on The Guillotine", with the "Margaret" changed to "Cameron"?

Let's hope this Tory government implodes and we get rid of the c***s within 18 months.

What a total knee-jerk reaction. Why don't you just wait and see and then attempt to compose your opinion? Instead you jump the gun in such a reactionary way using worn-out assumptions that easily gather the moss as they roll straight downhill. You sound like the most depressing caricature of GB himself. Stop depressing everyone and start thinking instead

Failing that, you could always move to Iran, Iraq or Afghanistan and give everybody else some hope of peace, so ridding the whole planet of your downbeat presence

 

[jm26]

What a total knee-jerk reaction. Why don't you just wait and see and then attempt to compose your opinion? Instead you jump the gun in such a reactionary way using worn-out assumptions that easily gather the moss as they roll straight downhill. You sound like the most depressing caricature of GB himself. Stop depressing everyone and start thinking instead

Failing that, you could always move to Iran, Iraq or Afghanistan and give everybody else some hope of peace, so ridding the whole planet of your downbeat presence

It may be kneejerk, but I didn't vote for Nick Clegg only to get David Cameron, and yet that is what has happened.

I cannot see how a Government with David Cameron at its helm, and Gideon Osbourne as its Chancellor (!) can be anything other than a disaster, especially when its built upon such a fragile and potentially combustible coalition.

The only positive I can see is that it will allow Labour to elect a new leader, regroup and re-energise, perhaps rediscover some of its roots, and wipe the floor with Cameron and his cohorts at the next election.

 

[Reelaround]

It's your own fault for voting for such an insipid, trendy backroom boy who is only just learning how to be a man

As for Labour well, they already took their £s of flesh, and will forevermore live well off it. No losers there.

 

[bhops]

It may be kneejerk, but I didn't vote for Nick Clegg only to get David Cameron, and yet that is what has happened.

I cannot see how a Government with David Cameron at its helm, and Gideon Osbourne as its Chancellor (!) can be anything other than a disaster, especially when its built upon such a fragile and potentially combustible coalition.

The only positive I can see is that it will allow Labour to elect a new leader, regroup and re-energise, perhaps rediscover some of its roots, and wipe the floor with Cameron and his cohorts at the next election.

And I'm pretty sure that the VASTLY superior numbers who voted for Cameron didn't vote for Nick Clegg to become deputy PM and hold so much power.

How can a guy who's party vote goes down hold so much power? I don't geddit.

I'm not so sold on Cameron either but seriously you think New Labour were doing that much good for Britain? They are a tired out of date, out of ideas party, and many people that voted for them (in my opinion) were voting for much of what they'd done in the past not what they were doing right now.

And if this defeat re-energizes Labour is that such a bad thing?

 

[Bluebirds]

Allegedly Morrissey has been offered the post of Minister of Fun in the new Progressive Coalition (!?!) government by his protege David Cameron.

Moz is holding out for the Home Secretary job though, his immigration policy will be a wonder to behold

 

[Qvist]

Heh, as much as British politicians leave to be desired, I quite frankly think there's considerably more to be said about British voters. You're just never happy, are you. No, strike that, you're never above the threshold of abject disgust in at least one (and often both) leaders of the major parties. You all thought Neil Kinnock was a pillock for being too old-fashioned to beat Thatcher. Then Blair came in and changed all of that, and pretty soon he was a pillock for betraying the old ideals of the working class. You hated Thatcher for sticking to her views regardless of opposition, and you hate Cameron for being an opportunist who acknowledge concerns and views not traditionally central to the conservatives. You hated John Major for being too ordinary, and you hated William Hague for being too extreme.

You lot have better politicians than you deserve. Which is luckier than most countries.

cheers

 

[anon x]

You all thought Neil Kinnock was a pillock for being too old-fashioned to beat Thatcher. Then Blair came in and changed all of that, and pretty soon he was a pillock for betraying the old ideals of the working class. You hated Thatcher for sticking to her views regardless of opposition, and you hate Cameron for being an opportunist who acknowledge concerns and views not traditionally central to the conservatives. You hated John Major for being too ordinary, and you hated William Hague for being too extreme.

It was different people doing the disliking.
(never heard saying Hague was extreme , it was his baldness and tory boy appearance at conference what did him in)

 

[Stuheff]

Heh, as much as British politicians leave to be desired, I quite frankly think there's considerably more to be said about British voters. You're just never happy, are you. No, strike that, you're never above the threshold of abject disgust in at least one (and often both) leaders of the major parties. You all thought Neil Kinnock was a pillock for being too old-fashioned to beat Thatcher. Then Blair came in and changed all of that, and pretty soon he was a pillock for betraying the old ideals of the working class. You hated Thatcher for sticking to her views regardless of opposition, and you hate Cameron for being an opportunist who acknowledge concerns and views not traditionally central to the conservatives. You hated John Major for being too ordinary, and you hated William Hague for being too extreme.

You lot have better politicians than you deserve. Which is luckier than most countries.

cheers

I could not have put it any better myself.

Marvellous rational post Qvist.

And true.

 

[death below the stairs]

Re: Dave Rowntree of Blur has a go at David Cameron

What a moron. Someone should challenge him to test out that proposition on this board.

I know or have met a fairly large number of Smiths fans over the years. They don't seem to me to have much of a tribal character when it comes to dress, haircut or T-shirt preferences. And as far as I recall, JM is on record stressing how Smiths fans turned up from all possible walks of life.

cheers

Erm,
I think you may find Dave is having an ironic dig.

 

[death below the stairs]

You and Preggers know it's true. Anyone who's paying attention knows it's true. Morrissey knows it's true and probably feels proud of it. His entire body of work would be meaningless if it didn't come from a place inside him beyond intellect.

I agree with the worm, on this one- in terms of his art comes from a place beyond the intellect.

 

[Bluebirds]

I love Progressive Coalition governments i it means we're going to play in the Premiership. BLUEBIRDS!!!!! What a game. My heart was giving me palpitations but a bloke near me had a heart attack literally.

And hard luck to Leicester but HA HA HA HA HA f***ing HA. Que sera sera whatever will be will be we're going to Wembley (AGAIN FOR THE THIRD TIME IN TWO YEARS)

And so glad I'll never be back in Hinckley you dirty inbred f***ers. I'm referring to your tackling obviously

 

[Qvist]

Re: Dave Rowntree of Blur has a go at David Cameron

Erm,
I think you may find Dave is having an ironic dig.

Yes, of course. And?

cheers

 

[Emotional Guide Dog]

It may be kneejerk, but I didn't vote for Nick Clegg only to get David Cameron, and yet that is what has happened.

I cannot see how a Government with David Cameron at its helm, and Gideon Osbourne as its Chancellor (!) can be anything other than a disaster, especially when its built upon such a fragile and potentially combustible coalition.

The only positive I can see is that it will allow Labour to elect a new leader, regroup and re-energise, perhaps rediscover some of its roots, and wipe the floor with Cameron and his cohorts at the next election.

I can't imagine many people voted Lib Dem seriously expecting them to be involved in Government in any way. Now they are & as a Lib Dem voter I'm quite pleased with that. And it's nice that we've got an actual economist (Vince Cable) as business secretary. If Osbourne goes tits up, he's got to be a shoe-in for Chancellor.

I think the Lib Dem's biggest problem has always been that people seem to either vote for them as a protest vote (with National interests in mind) or at a local level (because they like the person running). The other two have got millions of people who've been indoctrinated through the generations to vote for them & the Libs haven't got that.

I'll be voting Labour next time if they do get rid of the muppets (that'll be the entire former cabinet), get some more socialist minded & less control freaky new blood in & come back re-engergised as you suggest.
New New Labour here we come.

(PS I'll most likely vote Labour next time anyway. I'm of the strong belief that no party should be in charge for more than one five year term in succession. They just get too complacent)

 

[TheReader]

Heh, as much as British politicians leave to be desired, I quite frankly think there's considerably more to be said about British voters. You're just never happy, are you. No, strike that, you're never above the threshold of abject disgust in at least one (and often both) leaders of the major parties. You all thought Neil Kinnock was a pillock for being too old-fashioned to beat Thatcher. Then Blair came in and changed all of that, and pretty soon he was a pillock for betraying the old ideals of the working class. You hated Thatcher for sticking to her views regardless of opposition, and you hate Cameron for being an opportunist who acknowledge concerns and views not traditionally central to the conservatives. You hated John Major for being too ordinary, and you hated William Hague for being too extreme.

You lot have better politicians than you deserve. Which is luckier than most countries.

cheers

No, we are never happy, it's true. I'd be worried if we were though - isn't it the nature of politics to be constantly dissatisfied and to want change/reform? The day that a party gets high approval ratings and everyone's happy is the day that I start to wonder if they're putting something in the water