Dave Haslam speaks out against the cancellation of Roisin Murphy

[Crisstti]

I once worked in a gender reassignment clinic. Many years ago. That now seems so straightforward compared to what people demand today. Gender can certainly be altered, by knife, hormone, medication, etc. I don’t ever recall the NHS (in this case) ever offering to “change sex”. That’s legally and medically not on the table. Just to clarify, my role was an organising one, not clinical.

In terms of people having their livelihood and liberty taken for expressing a view, I neither support this, nor do I believe that this is a widespread issue. There are always these extreme cases that definitely do not represent the true picture.

We agree that the basis of the argument is an old one. Yet, we are in a Brave New World situation, with science offering previously unimaginable choices. Medical Ethics is supposed to regulate, but I’m not sure how effectively, to be honest. How we deliver and manage people as they seek to make these choices has never been so important. It’s just so much more complicated an issue now, with knock on effects being felt in general society. Do the many change, for the good of a few? Should we have to stop and think about gender loaded language that we’ve been getting along ok with so far? And what about protected spaces for Women?

We need a grown up, respectful conversation, that addresses these questions and the many other far more central issues. I can’t see one on the horizon though.

I would like to know how exactly, the very real situation of a woman being legally threatened with prison for saying men cannot become women, does not “represent the true picture”.

This kind of thing is actually happening. Free speech, and the right to say 2 + 2 = 4, are being threatened by the law and the judicial system. Not to mention by the gender ideology mob. And it will keep happening and it will get worse if we hide our heads in the sand and pretend it is not happening.

 

[Anon of Manchester]

I would like to know how exactly, the very real situation of a woman being legally threatens with prison for saying men cannot become women, does not “represent the true picture”.

This kind of thing is actually happening. Free speech, and the right to say 2 + 2 = 4, are being threatened by the law and the judicial system. Not to mention by the gender ideology mob. And it will keep happening and it will get worse if we hide our heads in the sand and pretend it is not happening.

I don’t disagree with you, and I fully support anyone’s right to express an opinion. I want to be clear about that. I just suggest that these cases are an abuse of process, and will ultimately lead to nothing. I certainly hope so.

 

[gashonthenail]

Interesting that author John Boyne has now written a public letter of apology to Graham Linehan. Is the tide turning?

Author John Boyne apologises to Father Ted writer Graham Linehan for criticism over trans issues: 'You were right, I was wrong'

Following previous criticism of each other, The Boy In The Striped Pyjamas author John Boyne has now said sorry to TV writer Graham Linehan. It comes after a backlash against singer Roisin Murphy over comments she made about puberty blockers.

news.sky.com

 

[goinghome]

i love bill maher!

when i was little i wanted to be helen keller or heidi's wheelchair bound friend Klara! thank god no one took me seriously!!

Did you know it was Nicky Wire who persuaded Bradfield to take on board the story of a protest singer who was silenced and murdered in Chile - cancelled in the extreme - as a theme for one of the Manics' albums, Even in Exile? - https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20200812-vctor-jara-the-folk-singer-murdered-for-his-music

 

[Johnnie Ray]

I think we're all cancelled until further notice

No, just the a-holes. People who don't say or do dicky things are safe. I've never had a problem.

 

[nicky wire's legs]

Did you know it was Nicky Wire who persuaded Bradfield to take on board the story of a protest singer who was silenced and murdered in Chile - cancelled in the extreme - as a theme for one of the Manics' albums, Even in Exile? - https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20200812-vctor-jara-the-folk-singer-murdered-for-his-music

No, I didn't know about that. Thanks for sharing! It's always lovely to hear what those boys have to say

 

[marred]

No, just the a-holes. People who don't say or do dicky things are safe. I've never had a problem.

Yeah that's because you're safe. Good luck with that.

 

[Johnnie Ray]

Yeah that's because you're safe. Good luck with that.

Not safe, I'm just not very good at being an insufferable dickhead. Never have been.

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

Not safe, I'm just not very good at being an insufferable dickhead. Never have been.

Lol. Judging by your solo posts, many would disagree.

 

[marred]

Not safe, I'm just not very good at being an insufferable dickhead. Never have been.

They say the easiest person to fool is yourself.

 

[gashonthenail]

Great to see Róisín's new album selling very well despite the faux outrage over her completely non-controversial comments that 99% of the population would share. There is an appetite for artists who are not scared to speak out against the bull shit. She should never have apologised.

Roisin Murphy set for highest charting album ever after trans backlash

The album is poised to storm the UK Album Charts.

metro.co.uk

 

[BrokenFrame]

Great to see Róisín's new album selling very well despite the faux outrage over her completely non-controversial comments that 99% of the population would share. There is an appetite for artists who are not scared to speak out against the bull shit. She should never have apologised.

Roisin Murphy set for highest charting album ever after trans backlash

The album is poised to storm the UK Album Charts.

metro.co.uk

She didn't want to smear her lovely career then, how sad.

 

[Crisstti]

Great to see Róisín's new album selling very well despite the faux outrage over her completely non-controversial comments that 99% of the population would share. There is an appetite for artists who are not scared to speak out against the bull shit. She should never have apologised.

Roisin Murphy set for highest charting album ever after trans backlash

The album is poised to storm the UK Album Charts.

metro.co.uk

It's great to see it, but look at that article...

And her comments? Nothing much controversial about them:

‘Please don’t call me a terf [trans-exclusionary radical feminist], please don’t keep using that word against women. I beg you!

‘But puberty blockers are f***ed, absolutely desolate, big Pharma laughing all the way to the bank. Little mixed up kids are vulnerable and need to be protected, that’s just true.’

Yet the article claims they "caused an outcry among her fanbase, which is primarily made up of people from the LGBTQ+ community"

Isn't the press itself creating this artificial "outcries" by claiming they exist in the first place? What do they base it on? a few social media comments?

 

[Luxo]

Good evening, fellow Stormfront posters.

Ah, sorry, wrong forum.

 

[gashonthenail]

It's great to see it, but look at that article...

And her comments? Nothing much controversial about them:

‘Please don’t call me a terf [trans-exclusionary radical feminist], please don’t keep using that word against women. I beg you!

‘But puberty blockers are f***ed, absolutely desolate, big Pharma laughing all the way to the bank. Little mixed up kids are vulnerable and need to be protected, that’s just true.’

Yet the article claims they "caused an outcry among her fanbase, which is primarily made up of people from the LGBTQ+ community"

Isn't the press itself creating this artificial "outcries" by claiming they exist in the first place? What do they base it on? a few social media comments?

Quite. I think I read somewhere that about 2% of people using the internet generate about 90% of the comments on sites such as Twitter / X. And yet the power they have to create a witch hunt is huge. Still, maybe this has always been the case? In Salem, the witch hysteria was created by a small number of children.