Cure interview in Irish Times mentions Moz

Discussion in 'General Discussion archive 2018 (read-only)' started by ACTON, Jun 21, 2018.

By ACTON on Jun 21, 2018 at 11:30 PM
  1. ACTON

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Discussion in 'General Discussion archive 2018 (read-only)' started by ACTON, Jun 21, 2018.

    1. ACTON
      I doubt if Robert Smith needs more money than he already has, or craves it. He was dismayed at the popularity of the 'Wish' album and always felt conflicted when their albums sold well. I think you're shortchanging Robert there with your comments (sorry for the pun!).
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    2. ACTON
      I still think they could surprise us all and release another great album. I have to admit I was disappointed with Wild Mood Swings in 1996 and with every Cure album since then, although I enjoyed parts of Bloodflowers. But I can't fault most of the albums up to and including 'Wish' in 1992. I think they lost a lot of the magic when Boris Williams and Porl (now Pearl) Thompson left after the Wish tour.
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    3. SuedeMoz
      I know it's crazy but I think Robert Smith actually wants his fans to enjoy the show. On the last tour, they played 2 Late one of my favorite B-Sides from the Disintegration-era.
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    4. ACTON
      Man that is an ace b-side! I always wished they had included it on the Disintegration album, but maybe it would have changed the mood of the album, so I guess maybe they had good reasons not to. Today 'Join The Dots arrived and it really is a lovely package, and obviously it included '2 Late'. In the liner notes Robert says he always loved bands who put as much effort into b-sides as a-sides, and he was adamant that The Cure also do that, which indeed they did for most of their career. '2 Late' and 'The Exploding Boy' are probably my favourite Cure b-sides, and 'This Twilight Garden' from the High 12".

      Whenever I saw a Moz single with live tracks as b-sides I always thought he was being a bit lazy.

      I've been buying Cure vinyl lately and 'Disintegration'/'Entreat Plus' sound amazing on vinyl. Same for the 'Faith' album.

      Sadly I haven't see The Cure live since the tour in 2002 when I was living in Sydney for a few years. I went to them two night in a row. First night I was at the back, second night I was up front, and of course the second night was amazing. Of all The Cure gigs I've been to I have to say The Prayer Tour, Dublin '89 was the best. I was just the right age and to me they were at their peak with the perfect line-up.
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    5. Surface
      Bur would hr pull 45k like the Cure have at Hyde Park?
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    6. g23
      I would like to hear what Reeves Gabrels could bring to the studio. On stage, he's the best guitarist they've ever had. Pearl was integral to their sound, but way too into hiding behind too much wah-wah pedal, especially live. Their drummer though, he's the Jesse Tobias of the lot. He's ok, but not quite good enough to rate alongside the guy he replaced.
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    7. URBANUS
      I'd be the spider swallowing him whole.
    8. Blackconvoy
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    9. SuedeMoz
      From what I remember the "feud" was essentially Morrissey trashing The Cure's music. I don't recall Robert having a lot to say back.
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    10. SuedeMoz
      If I recall correctly they didn't play 2 Late on the Disintegration tour, did they?

      Those are all great B-Sides - I would also add "A Few Hours After This." Back in 89/90 when I traded most of my vinyl for CDs, I kept all Cure, Smiths, Morrissey and a few others. So glad I did. Let's hope they'll do a tour featuring Distengration for the 30th anniversary next year. Wow, I feel old now.
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    11. Thewlis
      2Late certainly one of my fave Cure b-sides, very Smiths/Moz like to me.
      Chain of Flowers and A Few Hours After This are other great b-sides.
    12. Anonymous
      On average, The Cure is between 2h30 and 3h00 concerts with between 30 and 40 songs (sometimes more).
      And for morriSSey?
      We could also talk about the number of canceled concerts?

      At least one does'nt have to undergo the thoughts and other ideals of morriSSey.
      I'll end up believing it's a competition between Bono and morriSSey

      This is not because morriSSey plays songs from his latest albums in concerts, that means that his albums or his songs are good ....

      This is because morriSSey is not able to play in front of 80,000 people. He is already struggling to fill rooms with more than 5,000 seats.
      By the way, from Southpaw Grammar in 1997 to You Are the Quarry in 2004, how many concerts did morrisey gave? ....... 182! .... 182 concerts without albums to promote ......
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    13. Sheila Smith
      Sheila Smith
      I never understood either why Morrissey was so cruel when criticising people that he didn't like. Then he moans and moans when someone talks badly about him. Well, Morrissey, if you want people to talk nicely about you... 'You just haven't earned it yet baby!' Or as they say 'spit in the sky it falls in your eye'.
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    14. Anonymous
      So essentially you're a tosser then.
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    15. StalinsPipe
      Morrissey released yet another pointless compilation today. Talk about thriving on nostalgia.
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    16. StalinsPipe
      Plus, the Cure play daft 3 hour long sets. You actually get a good deal.
    17. Thewlis
      I was talking about the live-shows, but I’m sure you’d gathered as much.
      As I said I would love Moz to play a live show of only 1983-1994 songs, but he respects his recent output too much to do so, in that sense he refuses to thrive on nostalgia.
      But each to their own, I love both artists.
    18. StalinsPipe
      Agreed on the live shows, but both the Cure and Morrissey do rely heavily on nostalgia to sell out their concerts, the Cure probably more successfully than Morrissey in recent years.

      I'd love Morrissey to play a proper "Greatest Hits" tour, not like the one in 2008. Just songs from the golden era of 1988-1994, with a few Smiths classics slotted in.
    19. Thewlis
      Yes, that would be amazing, or something like a Viva Hate 30th anniversary or V&I 25th anniversary tour.
      Other artists do it all the time, but I can’t see Moz ever doing.
    20. gonzax
      To call The Cure irrelevant is one of the funniest things I've ever had to read on this forum, and I've read quite a few surrealistic thing here...
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