Charlton Heston Dies At 83

[vicarinatutugal]

The laws about carrying a weapon.

ok. I was thinking about things that have happened here (scotland) thankfully there are very few I could mention but dunblane was a shocker for me..

I think basically whether you are legally allowed to carry them or not if you are going to kill someone or want to own one you will. There are ways and means.

 

[Anaesthesine]

Are you guys talking about the story I just posted?

If so, I guess you would have been happy if he had been shot by that other man? That's exactly what would have happened if he hadn't shot first.

If not, then I sincerely apologize for misinterpreting you.

No, I was responding to yesitis, who made what I think is a rather clever joke about Mr. Heston's famous rifle-waving proclamation that you could have his gun when you could pry it from his "cold, dead hands."

I just loved that moment - it was so camp and absurd, yet somehow moving at the same time. I use that phrase about so many things - civil liberties, the environment, choice, my collection of Victorian birds eggs, etc.

I am not commenting on the gun issue because I seldom have the time to get into a proper discussion here. Suffice it to say that I enjoy a nice day at the range with a .22, grew up on military bases, and my dear brother-in-law (currently serving in Iraq) is a weapons designer and a specialist in "terminal ballistics." I get gun culture, and I disagree with it in many, many ways.

It's a very complex issue, and I'll leave you all to it.

 

[vicarinatutugal]

I read your article, and see what you mean. I guess though whether the law changed for someone to be able to carry the gun in public more than likely would not have made that much of a difference. The lunatics that are going to go out there and mass kill will do it anyway.
god I hate these things, those poor people. What a horrible thing to have happened.

 

[Cassius]

No, I was responding to yesitis, who made what I think is a rather clever joke about Mr. Heston's famous rifle-waving proclamation that you could have his gun when you could pry it from his "cold, dead hands."

I just loved that moment - it was so camp and absurd, yet somehow moving at the same time. I use that phrase about so many things - civil liberties, the environment, choice, my collection of Victorian birds eggs, etc.

I am not commenting on the gun issue because I seldom have the time to get into a proper discussion here. Suffice it to say that I enjoy a nice day at the range with a .22, grew up on military bases, and my dear brother-in-law (currently serving in Iraq) is a weapons designer and a specialist in "terminal ballistics." I get gun culture, and I disagree with it in many, many ways.

It's a very complex issue, and I'll leave you all to it.

Allrighty then. The second part of my statement applies to you then.

 

[Cassius]

I read your article, and see what you mean. I guess though whether the law changed for someone to be able to carry the gun in public more than likely would not have made that much of a difference. The lunatics that are going to go out there and mass kill will do it anyway.
god I hate these things, those poor people. What a horrible thing to have happened.

Regarding the lunatics, after the Virginia Tech tragedy, we have the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, which is far from perfect but it is a start.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Instant_Criminal_Background_Check_System

 

[Corrissey]

RIP and good luck, Chuck.

 

[underdog99]

you can have my guns when...?

 

[Hellie]

RIP and good luck, Chuck.

OMGI always thought Father Christmas wasn't real.

 

[iamkali62]

maybe they'll be able to take his gun away now.

They say he slept with it.

 

[troubleluvsme]

..... Sometimes quoting Morrissey songs just doesn't work.

WHAT??? OMG...I'm living a lie.

They say he slept with it.

ahhhh, FYI.....most of us who OWN guns, do in fact keep one in their bedroom....usually somewhere in the vicinity of their bed.

 

[Dave]

we live in the uk.. we do not have these "rights"

exactly, and no offense, but your statement is incredibly ironic.

 

[Not Right in the Head]

WHAT??? OMG...I'm living a lie.

You mean a "laughable life"?

 

[troubleluvsme]

You mean a "laughable life"?

Yes....of course that IS what I meant......
I screwed it up....
typical me, typical me

 

[Corrissey]

Yes....of course that IS what I meant......
I screwed it up....
typical me, typical me

Some people (NRitH)

It's people! Soylent Green is made out of people! They're making our food out of people. Next thing they'll be breeding us like cattle for food. You've gotta tell them. You've gotta tell them!

Great flick

 

[cornelius blaze]

poor old chuck, starred in one my favourite sci fi movies...Planet of the Apes, beneath the planet of the apes was quite good too!
As well the Omega man and Soylent Green.

I used (when growing up) try and watch these films when they used to be shown on the television.

actually, i was looking at a copy Planet of the Apes (on dvd) in HMV as it was in the sale rack, this was on the day before he died. I didn't buy it, wish i had now

 

[vicarinatutugal]

exactly, and no offense, but your statement is incredibly ironic.

you will have to explain what you mean please.. unless you are getting at the fact I am wading in and commenting on something that does not concern me cause I am not american.

I do not want these "rights"

 

[Dave]

you will have to explain what you mean please.. unless you are getting at the fact I am wading in and commenting on something that does not concern me cause I am not american.

I do not want these "rights"

My point was that there was not always a Bill of Rights or a United States Constitution, but the origins of the concept behind the Second Amendment go further back than that, to England.

It doesn't have anything to do with not being American and that would be really rude and stupid of me to think. But the idea is that, as many people controversially interpret it, the Second Amendment is there to allow the citizens to prevent the rise of tyranny. I just think it's funny that you say you don't want a right that is thought by many to be a device to prevent other rights being taken away.

 

[chica]

It doesn't have anything to do with not being American and that would be really rude and stupid of me to think.

I like it how we're all allowed to mind American business without being reminded that 'it's not our country', except sometimes by some people

 

[Dave]

I like it how we're all allowed to mind American business without being reminded that 'it's not our country', except sometimes by some people

it's a privilege, not a right. don't abuse it.

 

[chica]

it's a privilege, not a right. don't abuse it.

Fair warning, thanks