Billy Bragg: long statement re: Morrissey on Facebook (7 July, 2019)

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By Famous when dead on Jul 7, 2019 at 2:50 PM
  1. Famous when dead

    Famous when dead Vulgarian Moderator

    Dec 7, 2000
    Birmingham, U.K.

    "Last Sunday, while much of the British media were lauding Stormzy’s Glastonbury headline show as epoch defining, Morrissey posted a white supremacist video on his website, accompanied by the comment ‘Nothing But Blue Skies for Stormzy...The Gallows for Morrissey’. The nine minute clip lifted footage from the grime star’s Pyramid Stage performance while arguing that the British establishment are using him to promote multiculturalism at the expense of white culture.

    The YouTube channel of the video’s author contains other clips expressing , among other things, homophobia, racism and misogyny - left wing women of colour are a favourite target for his ire. There are also clips expounding the Great Replacement Theory, a far right conspiracy trope which holds that there is a plot of obliterate the white populations of Europe and North America through mass immigration and cultural warfare.

    My first thought was to wonder what kind of websites Morrissey must be trawling in order to be able to find and repost this clip on the same day that it appeared online? I came home from Glastonbury expecting to see some angry responses to his endorsement of white supremacism. Instead, the NME published an interview with Brandon Flowers in which the Killers lead singer proclaimed that Morrissey was still “a king”, despite being in what Flowers recognised was “hot water” over his bigoted comments.

    As the week progressed, I kept waiting for some reaction to the white supremacist video, yet none was forthcoming. Every time I googled Morrissey, up would pop another article from a music website echoing the NME’s original headline: ‘The Killers Brandon Flowers on Morrissey: ‘He’s Still A King’. I’m well aware from personal experience how easy it is for an artist to find something you’ve said in the context of a longer discourse turned into an inflammatory headline that doesn’t reflect your genuine views on the subject at hand, but I have to wonder if Flowers really understands the ramifications of Morrissey’s expressions of support for the far right For Britain Party?

    As the writer of the powerful Killers song ‘Land of the Free’, does he know that For Britain wants to build the kind of barriers to immigration that Flowers condemns in that lyric?
    Party leader Anne Marie Walters maintains ties with Generation Identity, the group who both inspired and received funds from the gunman who murdered 50 worshippers at a Christchurch mosque. How does that sit with the condemnation of mass murder by lone gunman in ‘Land of the Free’?

    As an explicitly anti-Muslim party, For Britain opposes the religious slaughter of animals without the use of a stun gun, a policy that has given Morrissey a fig leaf of respectability, allowing him to claim he supports them on animal welfare grounds. Yet if that is his primary concern, why does he not support the UK’s Animal Welfare Party, which stood candidates in the recent European elections?

    Among their policies, the AWF also aim to prohibit non-stun slaughter. If his only interest was to end this practice, he could have achieved this without the taint of Islamophobia by endorsing them. They are a tiny party, but Morrissey’s vocal support would have given the animal rights movement a huge boost of publicity ahead of the polls.

    Instead, he expresses support for anti-Muslim provocateurs, posts white supremacist videos and, when challenged, clutches his pearls and cries “Infamy, infamy, they’ve all got it in for me”. His recent claim that “as a so-called entertainer, I have no rights” is a ridiculous position made all the more troubling by the fact that it is a common trope among right-wing reactionaries.

    The notion that certain individuals are not allowed to say certain things is spurious, not least because it is most often invoked after they’ve made their offensive comments. Look closely at their claims and you’ll find that what they are actually complaining about is the fact that they have been challenged.

    The concept of freedom pushed by the new generation of free speech warriors maintains that the individual has the right to say whatever they want, whenever they want, to whoever they want, with no comeback. If that is the definition of freedom, then one need look no further than Donald Trump’s Twitter feed as our generation’s beacon of liberty. Perhaps Lady Liberty should be replaced in New York Harbour with a colossal sculpture of the Donald, wearing a toga, holding a gaslight.

    Worryingly, Morrissey’s reaction to being challenged over his support of For Britain, his willingness to double down rather than apologise for any offence caused, suggests a commitment to a bigotry that tarnishes his persona as the champion of the outsider. Where once he offered solace to the victims of a cruel and unjust world, he now seems to have joined the bullies waiting outside the school gates.

    As an activist, I’m appalled by this transformation, but as a Smiths fan, I’m heartbroken.

    It was Johnny Marr’s amazing guitar that drew me to the band, but I grasped that Morrissey was an exceptional lyricist when I heard ‘Reel Around the Fountain’. Ironically, it was a line that he had stolen that won my affections. “I dreamt about you last night and I fell out of bed twice” is spoken by Jimmy, the black sailor, to his white teenage lover, Jo, in Sheila Delaney’s play ‘A Taste of Honey’.

    The 1961 movie, starring Rita Tushingham was an early example of a post-war British society that would embrace multi-racial relationships (and homosexuality too). By pilfering that particular line for the song, Morrissey was placing the Smiths in the great tradition of northern working class culture that may have been in the gutter, but was looking at the stars. Yet, by posting a white supremacist video in which he is quoted as saying “Everyone prefers their own race”, Morrissey undermines that line, erasing Jo and Jimmy and all those misfit lovers to whom the Smiths once gave so much encouragement.

    A week has passed since the video appeared on Morrissey’s website and nothing has been written in the media to challenge his position. Today it was reported that research by the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, a UK based anti-extremist organisation, reveals that the Great Replacement Theory is being promoted so effectively by the far right that it is entering mainstream political discourse.

    That Morrissey is helping to spread this idea - which inspired the Christchurch mosque murderer - is beyond doubt. Those who claim that this has no relevance to his stature as an artist should ask themselves if, by demanding that we separate the singer from the song, they too are helping to propagate this racist creed."



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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Famous when dead, Jul 7, 2019.

    1. bhops
      Good Billy, now do a version of this but replace Islam for Margaret Thatcher.
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    2. ForgotHowIGotMyName
      If you want to make requests of someone, it's a good idea not to call them fucked in the head first. I don't give a shit about your curiosity.
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    3. the.legend
      I guess you know who’s talking there?! It’s Marcel de Graaff - member of the right wing populism Partij voor de Vrijheid.
      So what he’s doing there is populism.

      Have a read: "The Global Compact reaffirms the sovereign right of States to determine their national migration policy and their prerogative to govern migration within their jurisdiction, in conformity with international law. Within their sovereign jurisdiction, States may distinguish between regular and irregular migration status, including as they determine their legislative and policy measures for the implementation of the Global Compact, taking into account different national realities, policies, priorities and requirements for entry, residence and work, in accordance with international law.
    4. Anonymous
      THAT’s the undeniable truth of Morrissey’s “poor me” approach to life. ...and yours, you tiny, pissant cock-roach.

      Back up Morrissey’s fucking shit-tube with you, my wee rube princess. Hurry along, there’s not much room left up there, with all the newcummer twats ‘round here - scratching and scraping for a spot in that twee fucking douche-bag’s colon.
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    6. Anonymous
      Half of the 38% are already wondering what the fuck they just did. The rest are here, doubling-down.

      Don’t come crying to the rest of the world for mercy when you realize that your wee island doesn’t have the resources or money to provide you with anything beyond what you had BEFORE you joined the EU.

      Eat your over-cooked roast, yorkies amd bread pudding. ...then go back to sleep.

      You dug the grave. You can fucking lie in it. This isn’t the first two great wars. NOBODY is coming to bail your ignorant, selfish, culture-devoid asses out this time.

      The entire world is laughing at you.
    7. Anonymous
      Agreed. You should take a good, long rest. The sooner the likes of you take a permanent dirt nap, the world will be a much nicer place, twat.
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    8. Anonymous

      White nationalists area bunch of fucking toss, duck and run pussies.
    9. Anonymous
      ...and you’re in here posting absolute rubbish and hateful garbage under a fake name, goof.

      Was there a point to this post - or any of your others - besides making yourself look like an ignorant sack of shit?
    10. Carlisle baz
      Carlisle baz
      Interesting to read a post like yours on here, quite informative and from real experience just shows that all Muslims are not hateful, I went to a Roman Catholic school and I can safely say I was brain washed from the ages of 5-11 that’s not including going to Sunday school before the age of 5
    11. Ugly Devil
      Ugly Devil
      Poor Billy, clearly he's miffed that Morrissey picked Billy Green Day to sing on Wedding Bell Blues, instead of him.

      People like Bragg and Skinny are washed up middle aged bores, joyless turds that rejoice in the downfall of others. Claiming some universal morality and shamelessly wielding it at anyone that'll glance in their direction. You old dogs bark all day, but you'll never bite.
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    12. Anonymous
      I'm a Morrissey fan. Why else would I come here.... I'd never heard of Great Replacement Theory until I read this thing by Billy Bragg where he claims remaining a Morrissey fan means unwittingly publicising this theory. The same theory hes actively publicising which by the way Morrissey has never mentioned...

      Billy is so dumb
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    13. Stephen Hofmann
      Stephen Hofmann
      It was mainly about the dope at Uni, certainly not the retarded left-wing, right-on pile of shite course I was enduring.
    14. Thewlis
      Looking forward to Morrissey’s reaction tomorrow!
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    15. ForgotHowIGotMyName
      My name is Travis LeBlanc. That's not exactly a secret. I've written three articles about Morrissey under that name one of which made the front page.
    16. The Truth
      The Truth
      Again with the leafy mansion? At least he lives in England. *mic drop*
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    17. The Truth
      The Truth
      Travis The White? Really?
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    18. GodEmperorMorrissey
      Billy Fragg using the usual dog whistles to get all the virtue signalers howling. All these anons showing up speaking nonsense terminology because they have no argument against nationalism
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    19. ForgotHowIGotMyName
      Yes, I realize that my name sounds fake. Yes, LeBlanc means "white" and yes, "Travis" means "crossroads" and yes, the white race is currently at a crossroads. There is deep symbolism in my name but that's just divine providence at work.
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    20. Anonymous

      That’s what the last global batch of racist, homophobic young-buck cunts said before our grandparents came over there to sort them out.

      Your kind all ended up face-down, dead in the ditch, crying for mommy, or swinging from the noose - once the smoke cleared.

      Pick your option, ya whiny little bitch.

      You ring, we bring. ;)

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