Billy Bragg: long statement re: Morrissey on Facebook (7 July, 2019)

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By Famous when dead on Jul 7, 2019 at 2:50 PM
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    "Last Sunday, while much of the British media were lauding Stormzy’s Glastonbury headline show as epoch defining, Morrissey posted a white supremacist video on his website, accompanied by the comment ‘Nothing But Blue Skies for Stormzy...The Gallows for Morrissey’. The nine minute clip lifted footage from the grime star’s Pyramid Stage performance while arguing that the British establishment are using him to promote multiculturalism at the expense of white culture.

    The YouTube channel of the video’s author contains other clips expressing , among other things, homophobia, racism and misogyny - left wing women of colour are a favourite target for his ire. There are also clips expounding the Great Replacement Theory, a far right conspiracy trope which holds that there is a plot of obliterate the white populations of Europe and North America through mass immigration and cultural warfare.

    My first thought was to wonder what kind of websites Morrissey must be trawling in order to be able to find and repost this clip on the same day that it appeared online? I came home from Glastonbury expecting to see some angry responses to his endorsement of white supremacism. Instead, the NME published an interview with Brandon Flowers in which the Killers lead singer proclaimed that Morrissey was still “a king”, despite being in what Flowers recognised was “hot water” over his bigoted comments.

    As the week progressed, I kept waiting for some reaction to the white supremacist video, yet none was forthcoming. Every time I googled Morrissey, up would pop another article from a music website echoing the NME’s original headline: ‘The Killers Brandon Flowers on Morrissey: ‘He’s Still A King’. I’m well aware from personal experience how easy it is for an artist to find something you’ve said in the context of a longer discourse turned into an inflammatory headline that doesn’t reflect your genuine views on the subject at hand, but I have to wonder if Flowers really understands the ramifications of Morrissey’s expressions of support for the far right For Britain Party?

    As the writer of the powerful Killers song ‘Land of the Free’, does he know that For Britain wants to build the kind of barriers to immigration that Flowers condemns in that lyric?
    Party leader Anne Marie Walters maintains ties with Generation Identity, the group who both inspired and received funds from the gunman who murdered 50 worshippers at a Christchurch mosque. How does that sit with the condemnation of mass murder by lone gunman in ‘Land of the Free’?

    As an explicitly anti-Muslim party, For Britain opposes the religious slaughter of animals without the use of a stun gun, a policy that has given Morrissey a fig leaf of respectability, allowing him to claim he supports them on animal welfare grounds. Yet if that is his primary concern, why does he not support the UK’s Animal Welfare Party, which stood candidates in the recent European elections?

    Among their policies, the AWF also aim to prohibit non-stun slaughter. If his only interest was to end this practice, he could have achieved this without the taint of Islamophobia by endorsing them. They are a tiny party, but Morrissey’s vocal support would have given the animal rights movement a huge boost of publicity ahead of the polls.

    Instead, he expresses support for anti-Muslim provocateurs, posts white supremacist videos and, when challenged, clutches his pearls and cries “Infamy, infamy, they’ve all got it in for me”. His recent claim that “as a so-called entertainer, I have no rights” is a ridiculous position made all the more troubling by the fact that it is a common trope among right-wing reactionaries.

    The notion that certain individuals are not allowed to say certain things is spurious, not least because it is most often invoked after they’ve made their offensive comments. Look closely at their claims and you’ll find that what they are actually complaining about is the fact that they have been challenged.

    The concept of freedom pushed by the new generation of free speech warriors maintains that the individual has the right to say whatever they want, whenever they want, to whoever they want, with no comeback. If that is the definition of freedom, then one need look no further than Donald Trump’s Twitter feed as our generation’s beacon of liberty. Perhaps Lady Liberty should be replaced in New York Harbour with a colossal sculpture of the Donald, wearing a toga, holding a gaslight.

    Worryingly, Morrissey’s reaction to being challenged over his support of For Britain, his willingness to double down rather than apologise for any offence caused, suggests a commitment to a bigotry that tarnishes his persona as the champion of the outsider. Where once he offered solace to the victims of a cruel and unjust world, he now seems to have joined the bullies waiting outside the school gates.

    As an activist, I’m appalled by this transformation, but as a Smiths fan, I’m heartbroken.

    It was Johnny Marr’s amazing guitar that drew me to the band, but I grasped that Morrissey was an exceptional lyricist when I heard ‘Reel Around the Fountain’. Ironically, it was a line that he had stolen that won my affections. “I dreamt about you last night and I fell out of bed twice” is spoken by Jimmy, the black sailor, to his white teenage lover, Jo, in Sheila Delaney’s play ‘A Taste of Honey’.

    The 1961 movie, starring Rita Tushingham was an early example of a post-war British society that would embrace multi-racial relationships (and homosexuality too). By pilfering that particular line for the song, Morrissey was placing the Smiths in the great tradition of northern working class culture that may have been in the gutter, but was looking at the stars. Yet, by posting a white supremacist video in which he is quoted as saying “Everyone prefers their own race”, Morrissey undermines that line, erasing Jo and Jimmy and all those misfit lovers to whom the Smiths once gave so much encouragement.

    A week has passed since the video appeared on Morrissey’s website and nothing has been written in the media to challenge his position. Today it was reported that research by the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, a UK based anti-extremist organisation, reveals that the Great Replacement Theory is being promoted so effectively by the far right that it is entering mainstream political discourse.

    That Morrissey is helping to spread this idea - which inspired the Christchurch mosque murderer - is beyond doubt. Those who claim that this has no relevance to his stature as an artist should ask themselves if, by demanding that we separate the singer from the song, they too are helping to propagate this racist creed."


    Regards,
    FWD.

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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Famous when dead, Jul 7, 2019.

    1. Uncleskinny
      Uncleskinny
      No one is limiting anyone's free speech here. Morrissey is free to say whatever he likes, and we're free to call him a jackass for doing so. That's how free speech works, moron.

      And for someone who's been on this site for less than a month, you sure spout a load of right-wing bollocks. Maybe that's the way it is now, entryists feeling emboldened to spout their racist shit. Well I for one won't stand for it.
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    2. FantiQ
      FantiQ
      Not when you twist the words and limit debate and use the slanderous label of racist to try to destroy ones career and place in society. That’s called fascism, twirp.
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    3. Anonymous
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      Dog whistler alert!
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    4. Uncleskinny
      Uncleskinny
      You still don't understand what free speech means. I 'm using it now to call you a brainless Nazi cunt, and there's nothing you can do about it. And now it's my pleasure to put you on block. Fuck off you thick, uneducated, brainless shit.
      Uncleskinny
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    5. FantiQ
      FantiQ
      Oh my God. That was quick
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    6. Peanut
      Peanut
      Being against ethnic-based bigotry and group victimisation is not necessarily 'defending Islam' (or any other religion).
      But people seem to like to confuse this.
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    7. Stephen Hofmann
      Stephen Hofmann
      Trying to spread the idea that England is becoming more and more non-English.........I mean, the absolute horror of telling the truth. OH MY GOD.

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    8. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Define non-English (dog whistle, anyone?) by clarifying what you think English is?
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    9. Stephen Hofmann
      Stephen Hofmann
      How fucking thick are you?
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    10. Anonymous
      Anonymous

      Moz has fucked it. One read of this site shows that.
      The Stormzy post really was a no escape low.

      He will pretend he didn't know post it. But it's still there.

      He should have just waited for the tide to turn, carried on posting positive remarks by big names.
      Instead he had a fit. It's pretty much game over.
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    11. gashonthenail
      gashonthenail
      I think we can clearly see who - on this website at least - are the real purveyors of hate and spite.
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    12. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Too tough a question for you, was it? You're all about the empty statement aren't you? It seem you're quite incapable of answering and have attempted to use deflection. Just to keep you focused here's that question again:

      Define non-English (dog whistle, anyone?) by clarifying what you think English is?

      If you can't say it with word, perhaps some finger painting?
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    13. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      It's OK Hoffman will get a kick in. No doubt.

      Famous when dead needs to live this website and set up his own.
      It's now a waste of time. Every post is now ending in racist bs.
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    14. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      I'm confused as to why you felt the need to dilute the nature of Billy's comment? Billy didn't post it on Solo. He has a right to his opinion and it's an opinion shared by many. To attempt to diminish his activism is beneath you. There's activism required in this forum, perhaps you could focus your attention to the haters, and land the odd one-line or two?
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    15. womble
      womble
      One thing that makes it difficult to make sense of anti-Morrissey posts is the general expectation that if you support X then you must support Y and Z that people who support X normally support else you're somehow an outcast.

      It seems to me that, with Morrissey, a whole lot of people hear that he supports X, feel great about it, and then get very angry when they find out that he rejects Y and Z.

      I get that political parties need to bundle policies because they need to have a platform that many people can vote for, but why is this expected of individuals?

      Anyway, whatever you think of Morrissey, I don't find it all inconsistent that he would advocate for Britain remaining a semblance of Britishness (whatever that is) as a paramount concern. Half the country voted for Brexit, so it's not an outlandish view. If everywhere becomes like everywhere else, then it's true that you've gained diversity in a macro sense, but you've lost it in a micro sense. It doesn't surprise me at all that Morrissey would reject globalization (which is essentially what "make everywhere like everywhere else" is all about - the efficiency in selling the same stuff to the same people in the same way).
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    16. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Historically in England all GREAT poets and artists have been vilified for one reason or another. At least Billy Dragg won’t ever have to suffer such a fate :rock:
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    17. Ketamine Sun
      Ketamine Sun
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      Billy, because we know you’re reading this...



      MORRISSEY


      IS


      STILL


      KING



      :p




      ... yep

      :tiphat:
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    18. Anonymous
      Anonymous

      Mainly he was talking about a video from a racist website.
      But did that escape your attention.

      Making excuses like his 'friends and family do - Maker, Jesse, Sam etc Is klling Moz. He is now thought of as an Israeli shill. Like all shills Israel will watch him bleed dry and/ or freedom taken, while spreading their filth.

      Steven used to be a free thinker.
      There isn't on original though these days. He seems insane
      He doesn't care about the UK or he would pay his taxes like Billy does.
      Moz has fucked it. The USA fan base as also dwindling its not just a uk/European thing
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    19. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Nope!

      UK population: 45m ( registered voters)
      Brexit: 17.4m
      EU: 16.1m

      Non voters: 11.5m

      So, only 38% voted to leave.
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    20. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      MORRISSEY
      IS
      STILL
      KING


      To fewer and fewer every single day.


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