Billy Bragg: “Morrissey has broken the hearts of a lot of people” - The Big Issue (26 June, 2019)

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Whole article as brief:

"Not one shy to express his own feelings, Bragg said: “I think he’s decided that he wants to betray everything he ever said in The Smiths and he’s broken the hearts of a lot of people.
The Smiths expressed a lot of peoples own sense of disconnect with society and helped them to find their own identity – and he’s totally trashed that. I’m heartbroken for them because I’m a big Smiths fan too. And I’m heartbroken for Johnny Marr because he’s genuine, a lovely guy, and he doesn’t deserve to have his legacy dragged through the dirt.”

In his most recent comments, Morrissey reaffirmed his support for a far-right political party and said more questionable things about race that are not worth repeating here but easy enough to find online if you really want.

Bragg added: “I have no sympathy for him, no respect for him, but I have a lot of sympathy and respect for his audience.”"


https://www.bigissue.com/latest/billy-bragg-morrissey-has-broken-the-hearts-of-a-lot-of-people/


Further to his recent Oswald comment, Mr. Bragg is cited by The Big Issue for saying more on his view of Morrissey's behaviour.
The Big Issue present things ambiguously, so when Billy actually commented is unclear (possibly end of May), but given his previous comments - I doubt he'd say anything different.

Regards,
FWD.


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SECOND DEMAND!!!!!!
FOR FATTY:handpointright::guardsman::handpointleft: TO TAKE OFF HIS SHIRT ONSTAGE!!!!!:swear:swear

WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF DRAMAJ????:ahhh:

IS IT THIS:
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Not at all pussy willow.
It merely reflects the calibre of silly brags fans.
He seems to have a long term problem with morrissey as I've seen clips over the years where he has made 'joking' references to him at gigs. He's also very ready to talk about morrissey at the drop of a hat it smacks of publicity hunger and desperation. Money can't buy class, no matter how big a mansion it buys. Another Dave Hasbeen.
So, what you’re suggesting - head planted firmly up Melvis’ asshole - is that Billy Bragg is trying to further his career by slighting Melvis?

Bud... Get a f***ing CLUE.
 
Ahh the allies, America 1942- 1945 couldn’t quite make the first three years until pearl harbour,
My grandfathers were both in and there in 1941. 2 theatres. No f***ing Americans.

Get your f***ing facts straight.
 
Did Britain fine them? Was it parliament? Was it the Queen? Was there a public vote which resulted in the action?

Britain once fined me for speeding through a school zone and I’ll never go back. What’s become of that lot?

You, kiddo, are an absolute CLOWN.
from the bottom of my dick I thank you for that undeserving compliment.
 
“Im heartbroken for Johnny Marr...” I’m still trying to figure out the idea that Johnny Marr was the Smiths. Was it a fallback for straight guys to justify listening to it? Yeah Johnny Marr was a regular Kirk Hammett. Not to offend Billy’s delicate sensibilities...
 
In the 80s when Billy Bragg was at the height of his fame he was not any old socialist but a staunch militant Marxist who wanted to topple the capitalist system.

It doesn't surprise me that later when he became a practicing capitalist he made excuses and toned things down somewhat citing 'cynicism.' It's what hypocrites do.

I didn't know that about him. He's got a few songs I like but I was never interested enough in his story. This did make me google him.. this was an interesting story from 2011

https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/billy-bragg-has-absolutely-gigantic-house-201101063402
 
OMG, YOU OLD HORN DOG - JOHNNY AIN'T PUTTING OUT FOR YOU!! PUT IT BACK IN YOUR PANTS BUDDY!! :love::guitar::love:

Mr Cometry MUST:

PULL OFF HIS FLOWERY SHIRT SO HE CAN LIBERATE HIS FAT ROLLS AND WE CAN
CHECK OUT THE DUDE HE TATTED ON HIS ARM:menholdinghands:

PULL OFF HIS WIG AND WIG HAIR NET:swear

PULL OUT HIS :horseface: SNAGGLE TOOTH:censored:

THESE DEMANDS ARE NOT NEGOTIABLE.:swear

poor fatty twat.doh:
 
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Whole article as brief:

"Not one shy to express his own feelings, Bragg said: “I think he’s decided that he wants to betray everything he ever said in The Smiths and he’s broken the hearts of a lot of people.
The Smiths expressed a lot of peoples own sense of disconnect with society and helped them to find their own identity – and he’s totally trashed that. I’m heartbroken for them because I’m a big Smiths fan too. And I’m heartbroken for Johnny Marr because he’s genuine, a lovely guy, and he doesn’t deserve to have his legacy dragged through the dirt.”

In his most recent comments, Morrissey reaffirmed his support for a far-right political party and said more questionable things about race that are not worth repeating here but easy enough to find online if you really want.

Bragg added: “I have no sympathy for him, no respect for him, but I have a lot of sympathy and respect for his audience.”"


https://www.bigissue.com/latest/billy-bragg-morrissey-has-broken-the-hearts-of-a-lot-of-people/


Further to his recent Oswald comment, Mr. Bragg is cited by The Big Issue for saying more on his view of Morrissey's behaviour.
The Big Issue present things ambiguously, so when Billy actually commented is unclear (possibly end of May), but given his previous comments - I doubt he'd say anything different.

Regards,
FWD.


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Listen up, Billy is absolutely right. I felt ashamed at myself for ever listening to Morrissey or the Smiths. I didn't realize that they were propagating HATEFUL, violent views and that cant be tolerated. I want to live in a society where everyone loves everyone else. In fact I will go further and say if only someone had told me in the 80s that Morrissey would defend the notion of countries in the future I may have traveled to Salford to push him off a bike and throw bricks at him, then put the boot in a bit, then run away. I like all music that I choose to buy to define, set and reinforce my values of love, diversity and gender fluidity. We don't have time in our society for Fascists!!!! In any case I have burned my entire collection of Smiths Records and Morrissey records, in fact I burned all my vinyl which became a problem because of the toxic chemicals but frankly the neighbors kids will thank me one day, although i think one collapsed at one point from the fumes. I recycled the resulting charred plastic though. In any case if your music is not reflecting your views of Diversity and Inclusion and Equality (which it wont) then you should burn it too and show these Pricks that if they are not "on brand with the message" they can have their reputation and income destroyed in a heartbeat. In any case Ive replaced all my music with Gangster Rap and can really appreciate views of rising from a life of tyrannical oppression to sitting on top of the world. So thanks Billy you have changed my life and opened my eyes. Quick question Billy where do you sit on Gangster Rap, whilst it shows a lot of diversity (which I am loving)there are a number of references to raping and beating women, using guns, knives, death and violence on innocent folk to attain lots of money so that fine and exclusive brands can be bought in excess under a capitalist construct? Now I have these gangster rap albums should I emulate all the lyrics? Morrissey no longer reflects any of my values and we condemn him, any previous work, his haircut, his bicycles and his fascist National Health spectacles. He needs to wake up and recant everything he has ever said or done, ever, or in the future. It would be a nice gesture if he could write a song about the plight of the Chinese as well but do it in Diverse Gangster Rap style with lots of Hos and Bitches and bling. Unfortunately for me and Billy we will never listen to this song because we are committed to never listen to Morrissey again. All his fans and the fans of Biggie and Tupac feel exactly the same way.
 
Listen up, Billy is absolutely right. I felt ashamed at myself for ever listening to Morrissey or the Smiths. I didn't realize that they were propagating HATEFUL, violent views and that cant be tolerated. I want to live in a society where everyone loves everyone else. In fact I will go further and say if only someone had told me in the 80s that Morrissey would defend the notion of countries in the future I may have traveled to Salford to push him off a bike and throw bricks at him, then put the boot in a bit, then run away. I like all music that I choose to buy to define, set and reinforce my values of love, diversity and gender fluidity. We don't have time in our society for Fascists!!!! In any case I have burned my entire collection of Smiths Records and Morrissey records, in fact I burned all my vinyl which became a problem because of the toxic chemicals but frankly the neighbors kids will thank me one day, although i think one collapsed at one point from the fumes. I recycled the resulting charred plastic though. In any case if your music is not reflecting your views of Diversity and Inclusion and Equality (which it wont) then you should burn it too and show these Pricks that if they are not "on brand with the message" they can have their reputation and income destroyed in a heartbeat. In any case Ive replaced all my music with Gangster Rap and can really appreciate views of rising from a life of tyrannical oppression to sitting on top of the world. So thanks Billy you have changed my life and opened my eyes. Quick question Billy where do you sit on Gangster Rap, whilst it shows a lot of diversity (which I am loving)there are a number of references to raping and beating women, using guns, knives, death and violence on innocent folk to attain lots of money so that fine and exclusive brands can be bought in excess under a capitalist construct? Now I have these gangster rap albums should I emulate all the lyrics? Morrissey no longer reflects any of my values and we condemn him, any previous work, his haircut, his bicycles and his fascist National Health spectacles. He needs to wake up and recant everything he has ever said or done, ever, or in the future. It would be a nice gesture if he could write a song about the plight of the Chinese as well but do it in Diverse Gangster Rap style with lots of Hos and Bitches and bling. Unfortunately for me and Billy we will never listen to this song because we are committed to never listen to Morrissey again. All his fans and the fans of Biggie and Tupac feel exactly the same way.
Good spoof.
 
Listen up, Billy is absolutely right. I felt ashamed at myself for ever listening to Morrissey or the Smiths. I didn't realize that they were propagating HATEFUL, violent views and that cant be tolerated. I want to live in a society where everyone loves everyone else. In fact I will go further and say if only someone had told me in the 80s that Morrissey would defend the notion of countries in the future I may have traveled to Salford to push him off a bike and throw bricks at him, then put the boot in a bit, then run away. I like all music that I choose to buy to define, set and reinforce my values of love, diversity and gender fluidity. We don't have time in our society for Fascists!!!! In any case I have burned my entire collection of Smiths Records and Morrissey records, in fact I burned all my vinyl which became a problem because of the toxic chemicals but frankly the neighbors kids will thank me one day, although i think one collapsed at one point from the fumes. I recycled the resulting charred plastic though. In any case if your music is not reflecting your views of Diversity and Inclusion and Equality (which it wont) then you should burn it too and show these Pricks that if they are not "on brand with the message" they can have their reputation and income destroyed in a heartbeat. In any case Ive replaced all my music with Gangster Rap and can really appreciate views of rising from a life of tyrannical oppression to sitting on top of the world. So thanks Billy you have changed my life and opened my eyes. Quick question Billy where do you sit on Gangster Rap, whilst it shows a lot of diversity (which I am loving)there are a number of references to raping and beating women, using guns, knives, death and violence on innocent folk to attain lots of money so that fine and exclusive brands can be bought in excess under a capitalist construct? Now I have these gangster rap albums should I emulate all the lyrics? Morrissey no longer reflects any of my values and we condemn him, any previous work, his haircut, his bicycles and his fascist National Health spectacles. He needs to wake up and recant everything he has ever said or done, ever, or in the future. It would be a nice gesture if he could write a song about the plight of the Chinese as well but do it in Diverse Gangster Rap style with lots of Hos and Bitches and bling. Unfortunately for me and Billy we will never listen to this song because we are committed to never listen to Morrissey again. All his fans and the fans of Biggie and Tupac feel exactly the same way.

Morrissey is not propagating against women. He is propagating against MEN whom he fears and wants for his own use. You know those guys who looks you straight into eyes, says thing once and walks away? And they let you be whatever you are. Tell me who are they?
 
Is this one of the neighbors kids? Is that you Mark? Yeah, I know you were breathing in those vinyl fumes for like two hours because your mom works two jobs and you were home sick and it will probably leave you with neuro issues for life (I don't want to think about the other any future generations) but its a small price to pay to get my music collection to not be dominated by HATE. I don't know what sort of music collection a 7 year old has, but Im betting its full of HATE so I hate you Mark. I just don't think that posts like this are helpful those medical guys got you up and breathing again didn't they? Yes they did which just shows the privilege your enjoying you racist prick. Those medical guys should have ignored you Mark, you've had enough privilege. Do you think the Chinese get resuscitated after a vinyl burn off? No they f***ing don't. So go buy some gangster rap hymns and wake yourself up Mark you racist, privileged fascist.
 
So what? Seriously - so what?

Just showing the house he lives in as someone who said he was Marxist/Socialist.

From the Marxism wikipedia entry:

In a socialist society, private property—in the form of the means of production—would be replaced by co-operative ownership. A socialist economy would not base production on the creation of private profits, but on the criteria of satisfying human needs—that is, production would be carried out directly for use. As Friedrich Engels said: "Then the capitalist mode of appropriation in which the product enslaves first the producer, and then appropriator, is replaced by the mode of appropriation of the product that is based upon the nature of the modern means of production; upon the one hand, direct social appropriation, as means to the maintenance and extension of production on the other, direct individual appropriation, as means of subsistence and of enjoyment"

I don't think he's doing a lot of co-operative ownership with his mansion.

The point was his actions and his words don't align.

Also, don't confuse my support for the US getting national health coverage and free public college tuition for the idea that extreme socialism is the answer.

I believe it is important to make sure people can get very rich and have mansions but we must also ensure some basic human rights for everyone.

I think there is some room for the wealthy to contribute to the needs of the many but I think we could fund most of the things people need by cutting the military budget dramatically and stop imposing our will over countries for any reason.
 
Rubbish. Whose business is it other than himself what kind of a house he lives in? His actions and activism are molded by the size of his house? Is that really what you're saying?

Perhaps opining on the issues of the day should be kept to multi-millionaires with multiple houses like Morrissey.
 
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Rubbish. Whose business is it other than himself what kind of a house he lives in? His actions and activism are molded by the size of his house? Is that really what you're saying?

Perhaps opining on the issues of the day should be kept to multi-millionaires with multiple houses like Morrissey.
Ah, Tommy Morrissey: The immigrant who hates immigration.
 

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