Berlin, Germany - Tempodrom (Aug. 16, 2016) post-show

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Setlist:

Suedehead / Alma Matters / You Have Killed Me / Ganglord / Speedway / Istanbul / I’m Throwing My Arms Around Paris / Jack The Ripper / World Peace Is None Of Your Business / Kiss Me A Lot / All You Need Is Me / The Bullfighter Dies / Meat Is Murder / Everyday Is Like Sunday / Ouija Board, Ouija Board / The World Is Full Of Crashing Bores / One Of Our Own / I Will See You In Far-Off Places / What She Said / Oboe Concerto // Irish Blood, English Heart

setlist provided by an anonymous person and Sarcasmos.


 
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So what if he fakes a bit of an illlness, no one has convinced me yet on solow that they are more interesting than him. The fact that he is adding soft porn into preshow vids and not death related is a good sign. Someone in manc please film the reaction of the crowd when that goes up.
 

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So what if he fakes a bit of an illlness, no one has convinced me yet on solow that they are more interesting than him. The fact that he is adding soft porn into preshow vids and not death related is a good sign. Someone in manc please film the reaction of the crowd when that goes up.
Take a long hard look at yourself, and rationalise what you just posted.
 
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Chilling . . . you got his rhetoric down perfectly. We really need to get out the vote for November . . . or else, as m. reminded us, it could turn out to be a monstrous month.


Mozambiguous statement on the state of Morrissey's career

A lot of people are saying that Morrissey is a CrankFraud. A lot. Myself, I don't have much of an opinion about it, I don't care either way, but a lot of people are saying it. Read into it what you will. You don't have to believe me, but it's true. I've heard it so many times. Trust me on this. Nobody knows Morrissey better than I do. Nobody. So I was surprised when I heard so many people saying that Morrissey is a Crankfraud.

He doesn't give the people what they want. I'm not the one saying it. He's coming to your town, he's taking your money, and he's not giving you what you want. I've had sources tell me that people are falling asleep at his concerts. He takes their money, they're fooled by him, and they fall asleep. The concerts are so boring that the audience can't even keep their eyes open for it. I've got the best sources on this, and they all say it.

People are waking up to Lyin' Steve. They wake up at his concerts after being fooled, and they know that he lies. Boy, does he lie. What sort of name is 'Steve' anyway? It even sounds like the name of a liar, but I don't care about that. And people have been telling me about how bad the band is. Awful. Like really, really bad. And they get the worst reviews. You've just gotta read what the reviews are saying. I would say he should get a new band, but I hear his career is over so that doesn't matter now.

It's sad. His concerts don't even sell out. And I read a story from a reputable news source that he's got HIV. Now that's not me saying it, but it came from a reputable news source. Another news source wrote about his conduct with children, but I don't wanna get into that. But why would they say it? I mean, I don't know. I don't know. You'll have to come to your own conclusions about that. It was posted on this website for everybody to see. And yet people bring children to his concerts. I wouldn't, but that's just me.

Morrissey-solo.com member Born to Harangue wrote a piece about that on this website in July 2015. Now, Born to Harangue is a respected user. He got rave reviews. And a lot of people gave him thumbs-up, the best people. So if he has stuff to say about Lyin' Steve's dark side then maybe we should listen. I don't know. I don't want to speculate. But it's starting to seem obvious that Lyin' Steve is a bad, bad guy. All the sources are writing about it. Respected, reputable sources. Born to Harangue and the two articles I already mentioned wrote about it. Plus all the numerous people who are saying that he's a CrankFraud. Is he? I have no idea. He might be. He might be. But the number of people who are saying it is rising every day. Actually, it's skyrocketing.

I really couldn't comment on if what they're saying is true or not, but I will say this. I'll just say one thing. These are respectable people who are saying it; pillars of their communities; patriots, hard-working people with families and decent careers. People who just want a fair shake from Morrissey. Why would they put their necks on the line and say that Morrissey is a CrankFraud if they didn't 100% know it to be true? And risk their reputations? It doesn't seem likely that they would lie, does it? That's not for me to say.

I'm not here to cast aspersions on Lyin' Steve's character, or on anybody else. I'm just here to give voice to the many, many people who hold grievances towards Morrissey and weren't being heard. And when I say 'many' I mean MANY. Like, a lot of people - maybe even more than he can get to show up to his boring concerts. So it's not looking good for him. If you add it all up it doesn't look good. He lost a lot of support and it's sad. He's built a huge wall between himself and his audience. I almost feel sorry for the guy. Almost, but not quite.

But it's evident that he's a basket case. Lyin' Steve. And I heard he tries to rob photographers of their livelihood. I took it upon myself to count up the number of positive and negative comments about Morrissey on this thread alone and he received about 39 positive comments and 50 negative ones. 50! That's a lot of negative comments. And on a 'fan' site too. So the numbers speak for themselves. I don't want to say any more about it because I don't like to take sides and it's not my place. But the people can see how the negative comments greatly outnumber the positive comments, and make up their own mind.

The people aren't stupid. They're tired of being lied to. And they're tired of Lyin' Steve. But I'm not going to take sides.
Thank you for reading and God bless DavidT, Kewpie, and Morrissey-solo.com.

Thank you everybody.
Mozambiguous

References
http://www.morrissey-solo.com/threa...s-to-paedophiles-thecolemanexperience.132366/
http://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/does-morrissey-have-a-secret-‘serious-illness’-all-noise-co-uk.129853/
http://www.morrissey-solo.com/threa...ert-added-aug-21-2015.135548/#post-1986929125
 

12" on the slack

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I understand why you dislike my post 12" on the slack. You are from Sweden and your country was not unfairly bombed by war criminals.

Yet.
Um, no. I dislike your post because you, like Morrissey, think it's a good idea to compare Blair, Bush and Thatcher to Hitler. It's a false analogy and BrummieBoy has already explained it to you.

Being Swedish has very little to do with it. One doesn't have to be from a bombed, occupied country to be able to make a rational argument.
 
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Take a long hard look at yourself, and rationalise what you just posted.
Everyone lies. That patch was huge! It made me laugh, what an attention seeker. I strongly believe in individual freedom, and you all hold him to an impossible standard. I have very liberal beliefs and would rather someone go down their own path instead of forcing them somewhere, i am an American.

Sorry, i rationalized my post. As to the soft porn? Never thought i would see that at a Morrissey concert. He has got to peek from the curtains to see the crowds faces.

Let him live , if you don't like his concerts, attitude, lie, vote with your feet. Yes he is quite ridiculous, but i am bored to death and he is amusing.
 

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Everyone lies. That patch was huge! It made me laugh, what an attention seeker. I strongly believe in individual freedom, and you all hold him to an impossible standard. I have very liberal beliefs and would rather someone go down their own path instead of forcing them somewhere, i am an American.

Sorry, i rationalized my post. As to the soft porn? Never thought i would see that at a Morrissey concert. He has got to peek from the curtains to see the crowds faces.

Let him live , if you don't like his concerts, attitude, lie, vote with your feet. Yes he is quite ridiculous, but i am bored to death and he is amusing.
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Chilling . . . you got his rhetoric down perfectly. We really need to get out the vote for November . . . or else, as m. reminded us, it could turn out to be a monstrous month.
Yes, you should get out and vote for the best candidate, and do what you think is best for your country. Everybody should always use their right to vote. Many people died to give you that right. And then after November 8th you're going to be so happy when your country is great again!

Mozambiguous, you say that Morrissey is rumoured to have HIV like it's a bad thing, right next to allegations of pedophilia.

Do you think being HIV positive is a bad thing?
Now don't get me wrong I think HIV is a great, great thing. Fantastic. I've got no beef with HIV. Some of my best friends have got it. But so many people are saying that Morrissey has got HIV. I'm not saying it, but a lot of people are saying it. They're whispering it "Morrissey's got HIV, Morrissey's got HIV", I've heard it so many times. Why are they saying it? I don't know, but they are. Like I said, I think it's just a wonderful thing, so I don't care if he has it or not. But it definitely has been said about him by a LOT of people, and that's all I'm saying. You've got to ask them why they've been saying it, because I don't know. I don't know if he has it or not, all I know is that a lot of people have said it. Smart people, who know what they're talking about, but I don't know anything else about it than that. I'm just saying what I've heard.

Thanks for the questions. Great questions. Tough questions, but great.
Mozambiguous
 
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This is just ridiculous. No wonders Morrissey hates morrissey-solo. Why would so many people spend time talking about someone they clearly dislike? I dont see the pleasure on hating on him. Get a life, please.
 

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Um, no. I dislike your post because you, like Morrissey, think it's a good idea to compare Blair, Bush and Thatcher to Hitler. It's a false analogy and BrummieBoy has already explained it to you.

Being Swedish has very little to do with it. One doesn't have to be from a bombed, occupied country to be able to make a rational argument.
It's complicated to make rational arguments when your country is being occupied or bombed. So, yes, being Swedish let you be "rational" if empathy is not one of your personal qualities.
Brummie Boy can't explain anything to me, because I already know the way he sees the world and it doesn't fit my personal ethics.
Morrissey knows for people from Irak Bush and Blair are like Hitler or even worst. Cold blood killers are the same, and the best a healthy society can do is to spot and neutralize them as soon as possible. Blair wouldn't have happened if war crimes of Thatcher would have been punished, or at least, morally marked as such.
 
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I am writing this, because I must- After so long time, I can't stand BrummieBoy no more. For once, I am not going to ignore him - even if he is laughing beyond the screen, I am going to say that he is a kind of person it would be hard to show any kind of respect , because he does not show it to (some of) us. It is senseless when you do not like somebody so much, but you still devote so much time to follow every topic and answer to almost every single comment. What is going wrong with him? Why does he have so much free time to go to the site devoted to somebody who (probably) he hates so much. No job? No friends? No social real life? No passions? Living only to hate, staying safely at home with the browser always opened on morrissey.solo.com ? I am not saying that everything that Morrissey says is right - because it is not. But, when the only thing he (BB) does is to criticise and ignore our opinions, it is something I can't remain silent with this. Man, what are you trying to achieve? Morrissey obviously doesn't read this. On the other hand, his (other than you) haters also. Why are you here? Go and start site haters dot com, please. When I am asking, what is the poem at the beginning of the show, I am just asking this not because it's another attempt to express admiration for Morrissey, but I ASKED BECAUSE I SIMPLY LIKE IT and I had hope somebody will tell me this. But again, you appeared, you answered, you showed your hate(or what?) again and you only criticized what hurts me. Dear BrummieBoy, please say something meaningful or leave this forum.
 
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I am writing this, because I must- After so long time, I can't stand BrummieBoy no more. For once, I am not going to ignore him - even if he is laughing beyond the screen, I am going to say that he is a kind of person it would be hard to show any kind of respect , because he does not show it to (some of) us. It is senseless when you do not like somebody so much, but you still devote so much time to follow every topic and answer to almost every single comment. What is going wrong with him? Why does he have so much free time to go to the site devoted to somebody who (probably) he hates so much. No job? No friends? No social real life? No passions? Living only to hate, staying safely at home with the browser always opened on morrissey.solo.com ? I am not saying that everything that Morrissey says is right - because it is not. But, when the only thing he (BB) does is to criticise and ignore our opinions, it is something I can't remain silent with this. Man, what are you trying to achieve? Morrissey obviously doesn't read this. On the other hand, his (other than you) haters also. Why are you here? Go and start site haters dot com, please. When I am asking, what is the poem at the beginning of the show, I am just asking this not because it's another attempt to express admiration for Morrissey, but I ASKED BECAUSE I SIMPLY LIKE IT and I had hope somebody will tell me this. But again, you appeared, you answered, you showed your hate(or what?) again and you only criticized what hurts me. Dear BrummieBoy, please say something meaningful or leave this forum.
If you remember some of the lines from poem , type them in google search, it should pop up. As to the hateful posts, i find it odd too. I don't really like joy division but i have never been on their sites telling them i don't like their music.
 
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How gullible some people are. "Man of pain", "worrisome plaster", "touring while soo exhausted". Don't make me laugh. It's a carefully crafted image. He is playing with peoples' emotions and he is trying to shift a few more tickets by making people believe it's their last chance to see him before he dies. It's all ice cold and cynical.

I can't believe people fall for this crap.

When you're dying from cancer you are not physically able to stand on a stage with the spotlights on you and perform for two hours. You don't treat esophageal cancer (on the inside of the body) by sticking sticky plasters on the outside of your body. Neither do you treat an inflammation by sticking a sticky plaster on the affected area. This huge white is so strategically placed and attention-seeking it's laughable. CrankFraud indeed.
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I am sure the bandage is there for a reason, not to seek attention. :crazy:
 
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Spain decimated the Americas.
Argentina INVADED the Falklands. Even Jorge Luis Borges, who had fascist inclinations, eventually had to turn against the Junta.
I don't know exactly what you mean with "fascist inclinations" ?
Jorge Luis Borges was a conservative but to say he had fascist inclinations?
And eventually had to turn against the junta?
I don't know enough about Argentinian history but wasn't he always against the junta?
And hasn't the junta not punished him because he was one of the few who criticised them?
He was degredaded from being head of a library to being inspector of chickens in the agrarian sector.
He and his mother were bullied by many anonymous phonecalls threatening them with death.
When his mother answered the phone once, her reply was superior and witty.
She said: "Well my son is blind so it will be easy for you and as for me I, I am almost 92 so you have to be fast".
Jorge Luis Borges is, was, the greatest writer in world literature, at least for me and I hope Argentine is proud of him.
Sorry mods, if this is off topic. If it is I can understand you won't publish it.
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I am writing this, because I must- After so long time, I can't stand BrummieBoy no more. For once, I am not going to ignore him - even if he is laughing beyond the screen, I am going to say that he is a kind of person it would be hard to show any kind of respect , because he does not show it to (some of) us. It is senseless when you do not like somebody so much, but you still devote so much time to follow every topic and answer to almost every single comment. What is going wrong with him? Why does he have so much free time to go to the site devoted to somebody who (probably) he hates so much. No job? No friends? No social real life? No passions? Living only to hate, staying safely at home with the browser always opened on morrissey.solo.com ? I am not saying that everything that Morrissey says is right - because it is not. But, when the only thing he (BB) does is to criticise and ignore our opinions, it is something I can't remain silent with this. Man, what are you trying to achieve? Morrissey obviously doesn't read this. On the other hand, his (other than you) haters also. Why are you here? Go and start site haters dot com, please. When I am asking, what is the poem at the beginning of the show, I am just asking this not because it's another attempt to express admiration for Morrissey, but I ASKED BECAUSE I SIMPLY LIKE IT and I had hope somebody will tell me this. But again, you appeared, you answered, you showed your hate(or what?) again and you only criticized what hurts me. Dear BrummieBoy, please say something meaningful or leave this forum.
tg;dr
 
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Hopefully Morrissey won't get leprosy and have to go on stage dressed like a mummy hiding his gaping wounds with lashings of bandages where body parts have fallen off - nose, ears, arms, one eyed trouser snake...
:ha-no:
 

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