Morrissey Central "BEETHOVEN" and "BEETHOVEN IN THE USA !" (June 6, 2024)

BEETHOVEN

On pre-orders, Beethoven Was Deaf CD is #1 today on the UK Movers and Shakers chart, and Beethoven Was Deaf vinyl is at #2.


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BEETHOVEN IN THE USA !

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I think you’re looking in the wrong direction. I could rattle off a list of truly challenging bands and artists, all amazing, if that’s your thing. I’d hate for you to miss out on some great music.

Please do, that would be wonderful thanks. Though I realise it can be very subjective. I just don't seem to have the time to look in many directions these days. Life often takes over.


yip there is mountains of shit out there.

I think that's the problem really. It's like trying to find your favourite underwear that's buried beneath a gargantuan heap of rubbish.
 
There you go, wielding a bicycle chain.
I think you are a new fan? I don't think you understand that song. In any event, many people have long pointed out his obsession with charts as irritating and juvenile, and mostly contradictory. He wants to be ensconced in the very system he villifies, it's honestly a bore and has been for a long time. Maybe ensconced is not the right word, but he definintely wants all the commercial success of all the people he constantly criticizes and desperately wants to play the game he says he despises, he just doesn't know how to do it and won't take sound advice from anyone, which is why people keep leaving him. Which is why people think he needs Alain. Which is why people are fed up with him and his drama. The original fans get it, even if they all don't agree on what exactly the problem is.
 
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Moz is in good company next to Mr. Andrew Hozier Byrne! In the USA and I just might have preordered both colors...
 
I think you are a new fan? I don't think you understand that song. In any event, many people have long pointed out his obsession with charts as irritating and juvenile, and mostly contradictory. He wants to be ensconced in the very system he villifies, it's honestly a bore and has been for a long time. Maybe ensconced is not the right word, but he definintely wants all the commercial success of all the people he constantly criticizes and desperately wants to play the game he says he despises, he just doesn't know how to do it and won't take sound advice from anyone, which is why people keep leaving him. Which is why people think he needs Alain. Which is why people are fed up with him and his drama. The original fans get it, even if they all don't agree on what exactly the problem is.
I don't think he has changed in his nature at all really. He was obsessed with charts from the beginning. It's one thing not agreeing with his behaviour/choices but your ongoing negative posts and use of hateful adjectives are a constant source of amazement to me. But I guess I'm in the wrong for engaging with them, and this back and forth is boring for all, so I won't anymore. I'm excited about these shows and the possible release of Bonfire, so I'll focus on that instead.
 
Yup, and nobody is listening, as the first gigs before 57 people have shown. Without Moz they are a cover band only.
Agreed, and a pathetic one at that with Alain's butchering of Morrissey's vocals. They all need to get a post-Morrissey life.
 
Yes, I said it's been a long time. I don't think he's ever been the true indie artist he claims to be, but I think Johnny is and was.
Marr is "indie" by default because his solo work is crap and his voice sucks. He couldn't sell out my old High School gymnasium.
 
Marr is "indie" by default because his solo work is crap and his voice sucks. He couldn't sell out my old High School gymnasium.
Oh, so clever. I am not huge fan of his solo work or his voice, but he shows up and puts on a good show, at bigger venues than your high school gymnasium, I am sure.
If I had to pick a live Marr or Morrissey show now, I would pick Marr, he has a good band and does Smiths and Electronic.

Morrissey is the only one of the two I have ever seen play in a gymnasium.
 
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Oh, so clever. I am not huge fan of his solo work or his voice, but he shows up and puts on a good show, at bigger venues than your high school gymnasium, I am sure.
If I had to pick a live Marr or Morrissey show now, I would pick Marr, he has a good band and does Smiths and Electronic.

Morrissey is the only one of the two I have ever seen play in a gymnasium.
Each to his own. Personally I'd rather go to the dentist than a Marr concert. BTW , have you ever considered upping your anti-depressant dosage? Because your never ending bleakness is getting awfully dull.
 
Marr is "indie" by default because his solo work is crap and his voice sucks. He couldn't sell out my old High School gymnasium.

You must have had a large school gymnasium as Johnny sold out the Hammersmith Apollo only a few weeks ago along with every other date on his tour and last December he sold out 2 nights at the 5k capacity Aviva Studios in Manchester.
 
Please do, that would be wonderful thanks. Though I realise it can be very subjective. I just don't seem to have the time to look in many directions these days. Life often takes over.
Yes, of course. Entirely subjective. But my point is that there is plenty of great music, one just needs to look way beyond the mainstream and the most obvious.

Here are a few select bands I enjoy that tend to stray away from the mainstream:

Rome: Luxembourgish singer-songwriter heavily influenced by Nick Cave, Leonard Cohen, Joy Division and industrial music, singing deeply European songs about the state of human kind.

David Eugene Edwards: American songwriter who rose to “fame” in the 90s as the front man of 16 Horsepower, and later as the mastermind behind Wovenhand. Now makes music using his own name. Roots music, country, dark and thundering folk and electronics all make sense in the hands of DEE.

Late era (1984-2014) Scott Walker: Pitch black Avant-garde sounds mixed with gallows humor and celestial soundscapes from a once heart-throbbing crooner.

And Also the Trees: Started off as a gothic post punk outfit in the early 80s, but evolved into something completely unique. These past 20 years they’ve channeled Nick Drake, the Cure and authors Arthur Machen and Mary Shelley when concocting their deeply English and very rural goth folk. Their latest album (released early this year) is one of their best.

Bohren & der Club of Gore: Slow, gloomy and absolutely stunning German doom jazz that sounds like something you’d hear in a David Lynch film.
 
Yes, of course. Entirely subjective. But my point is that there is plenty of great music, one just needs to look way beyond the mainstream and the most obvious.

Here are a few select bands I enjoy that tend to stray away from the mainstream:

Rome: Luxembourgish singer-songwriter heavily influenced by Nick Cave, Leonard Cohen, Joy Division and industrial music, singing deeply European songs about the state of human kind.

David Eugene Edwards: American songwriter who rose to “fame” in the 90s as the front man of 16 Horsepower, and later as the mastermind behind Wovenhand. Now makes music using his own name. Roots music, country, dark and thundering folk and electronics all make sense in the hands of DEE.

Late era (1984-2014) Scott Walker: Pitch black Avant-garde sounds mixed with gallows humor and celestial soundscapes from a once h⅛eart-throbbing crooner.

And Also the Trees: Started off as a gothic post punk outfit in the early 80s, but evolved into something completely unique. These past 20 years they’ve channeled Nick Drake, the Cure and authors Arthur Machen and Mary Shelley when concocting their deeply English and very rural goth folk. Their latest album (released early this year) is one of their best.

Bohren & der Club of Gore: Slow, gloomy and absolutely stunning German doom jazz that sounds like something you’d hear in a David Lynch film.

Many thanks for that, I will check them out!

Always refreshing to discover something new and exciting :D
 
Many thanks for that, I will check them out!

Always refreshing to discover something new and exciting :D
Rome:

DEE:

Scott Walker:

AATT:

Bohren:

Making it a bit easier… 😎
 
Walker is the only obvious choice there.

his late 60’s stuff isn’t so bad either. :cool:
 
Walker is the only obvious choice there.

his late 60’s stuff isn’t so bad either. :cool:
Only obvious if you know me and the discussions we’ve had. Many music lovers still haven’t discovered his late era stuff. But yeah, his sixties stuff is obviously fantastic as well. 😍
 

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