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I see you have been proved correct once again.
That "democratic" vote you so espoused in Iraq has worked marvels.
How many dead today in the car bomb attack?
Only slightly less than took up the chance to vote.

I suppose you will argue "It was all worth it in the end"
Sadly, this is only the beginning.

You narrow minded capitalist delusionoid.

You really do live on another planet to those people.

Keep eating the burgers baby.
 
> I see you have been proved correct once again.
> That "democratic" vote you so espoused in Iraq has worked
> marvels.
> How many dead today in the car bomb attack?
> Only slightly less than took up the chance to vote.

> I suppose you will argue "It was all worth it in the end"
> Sadly, this is only the beginning.

> You narrow minded capitalist delusionoid.

> You really do live on another planet to those people.

> Keep eating the burgers baby.
What the hell are you babbling on now about?
Perhaps your time would be better spent taking some classes at Liverpool community college,perhaps World Religions 101 or some sort of Government/Politics class.If you missed the start of the semester, look into online courses. Please do it now. There's more to life than smoking cigarettes at the S&G while drinking God knows what out of a coke bottle(with Grim making stupid faces in the background).
 
> What the hell are you babbling on now about?
> Perhaps your time would be better spent taking some classes at Liverpool
> community college,perhaps World Religions 101 or some sort of
> Government/Politics class.If you missed the start of the semester, look
> into online courses. Please do it now. There's more to life than smoking
> cigarettes at the S&G while drinking God knows what out of a coke
> bottle(with Grim making stupid faces in the background).

Don't patronise me.
I believe you are an American.
How dare you preach to me about politics, we grow up in this nation to actually think for ourselves.
Unfortunately you have all been deluded in the notion that you do, but really, nothing changes.
Apparently you ALL HATED BUSH and yet he's there again.
Wonder why?
Someone obviously voted for him, but I bet you know no one who did.
Strange don't you think.
Maybe it's you who needs the classes, I most certainly don't.
 
> Don't patronise me.
> I believe you are an American.
> How dare you preach to me about politics, we grow up in this nation to
> actually think for ourselves.
> Unfortunately you have all been deluded in the notion that you do, but
> really, nothing changes.
> Apparently you ALL HATED BUSH and yet he's there again.
> Wonder why?
> Someone obviously voted for him, but I bet you know no one who did.
> Strange don't you think.
> Maybe it's you who needs the classes, I most certainly don't.

A little postscript.

When someone dares to change things in your place, they find themselves
with their head blown to pieces.

Ring any bells, between the vacuum in your head?

I do believe it is YOU who should read up on Government/Politics/Religion.

How DARE YOU preach to me.

"
 
> Don't patronise me.
> I believe you are an American.
> How dare you preach to me about politics, we grow up in this nation to
> actually think for ourselves.
> Unfortunately you have all been deluded in the notion that you do, but
> really, nothing changes.
> Apparently you ALL HATED BUSH and yet he's there again.
> Wonder why?
> Someone obviously voted for him, but I bet you know no one who did.
> Strange don't you think.
> Maybe it's you who needs the classes, I most certainly don't.

I confess, I wimped out and voted for the man. I chalk it up mostly to the antipathy I felt observing the antics of what Theo often refers to as "the fever-swamp left" --the whole "the enemy of my enemy..." sort of thing-- And I was probably a little worried about the future ideological complexion of the Supreme Court. Flawed, you should know that the authentic Paleo-Right in America was/is (for the most part) opposed to this madness in Iraq. Since when have the Right ever been messianical purveyors of "Universal Democracy?" --making the Mid-East safe for Israel, Mcdonalds, and reruns of "Sex in the City." Oh wait, I know...and so do you. And for what it is worth, while I remain a knee-jerk critic of Socialism, I am hostile to laissez faire Capitalism as well.
 
> Don't patronise me.
> I believe you are an American.
> How dare you preach to me about politics, we grow up in this nation to
> actually think for ourselves.
> Unfortunately you have all been deluded in the notion that you do, but
> really, nothing changes.
> Apparently you ALL HATED BUSH and yet he's there again.
> Wonder why?
> Someone obviously voted for him, but I bet you know no one who did.
> Strange don't you think.
> Maybe it's you who needs the classes, I most certainly don't.
I'm not going to waste my time debating a post like this.
You're own Government has a research paper(04/81 Nov 13, 2004) on the US Presidential and Congressional results that is in stark contrast to your own conclusions concerning the US elections process. Perhaps you sould contact either you're local MP or the House of Commons directly and aquire a copy of this report.
 
you never cease to amaze me Megan on how far out of your (tiny) depth you can throw yourself, haha, no wonder your only 'mate' here is a moron. Mind you it proves that you believe everything your own corrupt government says if you believe everything our corrupt government says, as S.F. said in one of her above posts, we think freely, you ought to try it but it would probably be too much trouble.
Stick to what you know best & continue to post about that silly american game you support. Has your season ticket gone up this year btw?
Plenty of relish on them burgers.

GrimO

> I'm not going to waste my time debating a post like this.
> You're own Government has a research paper(04/81 Nov 13, 2004) on the US
> Presidential and Congressional results that is in stark contrast to your
> own conclusions concerning the US elections process. Perhaps you sould
> contact either you're local MP or the House of Commons directly and aquire
> a copy of this report.
 
Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness is coming to the Middle East. A revolution is ON.

> You narrow minded capitalist delusionoid.

Every day I check the news lately I see the Bush foreign policy being vindicated in the Middle East Have you been keeping up on the drama in Lebanon? The people are in the streets and forcing Syria to leave. And how about Egypt? I already posted about Mubarek feeling the pressure for democratic reforms.

It turns out arab-muslims aren't so different than the rest of us, and what they seek is liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Any real American knows this is what people want and deserve. The events set in motion by America's response to 9/11 are now looking like a real revolution brewing across the entire Middle East, with the good people seizing the opportunity to demand a better world now that they've seen Afghans and Iraqis voting and believe a better world is possible. America's response to 9/11 is being vindicated because it addresses the root causes of the problems in the Middle East for the long term, rather than merely killing some Jihadists.

It's yet another example of how the European "intelligentsia" is always wrong.

As far as the 115 murdered in another terrorist atrocity, you can't stop all of these in the short term, but when 8.5 million citizens of Iraq gave the so-called insurgancy the ink-stained finger, the insurgancy are just a bunch dead-enders.

I also saw that Islamic Jihad sent a homicide/suicide bomber to blow up some Israeli teenagers outside a nightclub. Another example of who wants peace and who wants to murder civilians. Islamic Jihad is no longer part of the truce and Israel should re-commence on assasinating and decimating their ranks. If Syria is connected, as alleged, we must turn the heat up on them as well.
 
> I confess, I wimped out and voted for the man. I chalk it up mostly to the
> antipathy I felt observing the antics of what Theo often refers to as
> "the fever-swamp left"

Yup, the fever-swamp left has taken over the democrat party, and until the decent democrats kick them to the curb, you'd have to be insane to put that party into power. I hope the fever passes soon.

>Flawed, you should
> know that the authentic Paleo-Right in America was/is (for the most part)
> opposed to this madness in Iraq.

You're correct, and it's one of the reasons I scratch my head when I'm called a right-winger......

> while I remain a knee-jerk critic of Socialism, I am hostile to laissez
> faire Capitalism as well.

You're hostile to freedom. How sad.
 
Tubbs Jones made an ass of herself on Bill Maher's show

My congresswoman is Stephanie Tubbs-Jones, definitely a feverish lefty.

In the last election she ran unopposed, because the demcorats have drawn the lines of my congressional district to ensure they get automatic victory.

The other representative in Cleveland is the hardcore socialist and photo-op whore, Dennis Kucinich.

Greater Cleveland is entirely run by democrats and, like most major cities run entirely by democrats, it is an economic disastor area. Parts of Cleveland look worse than parts of Iraq.

All that's to say...Stephanie Tubbs-Jones has done no good for Cleveland whatsoever.

But now that she has a national profile for feverishly challenging Bush's victory in Ohio (hmm, in 2000 she told us we should only go by the national popular vote...), she did take the time to appear on Real Time w/ Bill Maher last weekend.

And what were her brilliant opinions? First she scolded the panel for judging Muslims who refuse to treat women with equality, stating: "I respect the Muslim religion and their choice not to shake hands with women." Bill Maher correctly attacking her "tolerance" as being "tolerant of intolerance." It would seem Tubbs-Jones would fit in better in the United Kingdom, where legislators are seeking to criminalize "hate speech" against Islam.

Next, Stephanie Tubbs-Jones took on the Ward Churchill issue by telling us she "doesn't know" if Churchill is a poor professor of low qualifications, despite Churchill's plagiarism, mirepresentation of himself as an Indian, pathetic academic credentials, violation of copyright (he copied a painting and claimed it was his), academic fraud, and his view that civilians working in the World Trade Center are "Eichmann's" that constituted a legitimate military target on 9/11. (For the record, I'm not sure I'd support firing Churchill, as although legit grounds for terminating him have unearthed, it would appear to be a pretext for firing him over his speech content. I do believe someone needs to go over the University of Colorado-Boulder with a fine-toothed comb and change whatever allowed such a deranged lunatic to be hired and promoted in the first place.)

I'm glad Tubbs-Jones made clear she doesn't support the substance of Churchill's views, but her opinion that Churchill may be a good professor coupled with her opinion that we cannot judge the misogyny of Islamic culture are just two more indicators that she is part of the fever-swamp who would help doom this country in the war if they had majority power.

I suggest to Tubbs-Jones that she look at the disastor area that is Cleveland and resign in shame over her failure to do anything whatsoever for the people she represents. If not, I'm beginning to feel I should start a web site offering fund-raising help for a candidate who'd like to challnge her, perhaps as an independant. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones' unoppossed elections must end. I demand the right to CHOICE in a congressional district monopolized by a corrupt democrat machine! The future of my city depends on it.
 
Oh my! Look what I find in today's NY Times! The tide is turning....

NY Times lead editorial:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/01/opinion/01tue1.html?pagewanted=print&position=

March 1, 2005
EDITORIAL
Mideast Climate Change

It's not even spring yet, but a long-frozen political order seems to be cracking all over the Middle East. Cautious hopes for something new and better are stirring along the Tigris and the Nile, the elegant boulevards of Beirut, and the impoverished towns of the Gaza Strip. It is far too soon for any certainties about ultimate outcomes. In Iraq, a brutal insurgency still competes for headlines with post-election democratic maneuvering. Yesterday a suicide bomber plowed into a crowd of Iraqi police and Army recruits, killing at least 122 people - the largest death toll in a single such bombing since the American invasion nearly two years ago. And the Palestinian terrorists who blew up a Tel Aviv nightclub last Friday underscored the continuing fragility of what has now been almost two months of steady political and diplomatic progress between Israelis and Palestinians.

Still, this has so far been a year of heartening surprises - each one remarkable in itself, and taken together truly astonishing. The Bush administration is entitled to claim a healthy share of the credit for many of these advances. It boldly proclaimed the cause of Middle East democracy at a time when few in the West thought it had any realistic chance. And for all the negative consequences that flowed from the American invasion of Iraq, there could have been no democratic elections there this January if Saddam Hussein had still been in power. Washington's challenge now lies in finding ways to nurture and encourage these still fragile trends without smothering them in a triumphalist embrace.

Lebanon's political reawakening took a significant new turn yesterday when popular protests brought down the pro-Syrian government of Prime Minister Omar Karami. Syria's occupation of Lebanon, nearly three decades long, started tottering after the Feb. 14 assassination of the country's leading independent politician, the former prime minister Rafik Hariri.

If Damascus had a hand in this murder, as many Lebanese suspect, it had a boomerang effect on Lebanon's politics. Instead of intimidating critics of Syria's dominant role, it inflamed them. To stem the growing backlash over the Hariri murder, last week Syria announced its intentions to pull back its occupation forces to a region near the border - although without offering any firm timetable. Yesterday, with protests continuing, the pro-Syrian cabinet resigned. Washington, in an unusual alliance with France, continues to press for full compliance with the Security Council's demand for an early and complete Syrian withdrawal. That needs to happen promptly. Once Syria is gone, Hezbollah, which has engaged in international terrorism under Syrian protection, must either confine itself to peaceful political activity or be shut down.

Last weekend's surprise announcement of plans to hold at least nominally competitive presidential elections in Egypt could prove even more historic, although many of the specific details seem likely to be disappointing. Egypt is the Arab world's most populous country and one of its most politically influential. In more than five millenniums of recorded history, it has never seen a truly free and competitive election.

To be realistic, Egypt isn't likely to see one this year either. For all his talk of opening up the process, President Hosni Mubarak, 76, is likely to make sure that no threatening candidates emerge to deny him a fifth six-year term. But after seeing more than eight million Iraqis choose their leaders in January, Egypt's voters, and its increasingly courageous opposition movement, will no longer retreat into sullen hopelessness so readily. The Bush administration has helped foster that feeling of hope for a democratic future by keeping the pressure on Mr. Mubarak. But the real heroes are on-the-ground patriots like Ayman Nour, who founded a new party aptly named Tomorrow last October and is now in jail. If Mr. Mubarak truly wants more open politics, he should free Mr. Nour promptly.

It is similarly encouraging that the terrorists who attacked a Tel Aviv nightclub on Friday, killing five Israelis, have not yet managed to completely scuttle the new peace dynamic between Israel and the Palestinian Authority. Israel contends that those terrorists were sponsored by Syria, but its soldiers reported discovering an explosives-filled car in the West Bank yesterday. The good news is that the leaders on both sides did not instantly retreat to familiar corners in angry rejectionism. Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and the new Palestinian leader, Mahmoud Abbas, have proved they can work together to thwart terrorism and deny terrorists an instant veto over progress toward a negotiated peace.

Over the past two decades, as democracies replaced police states across Central and Eastern Europe and Latin America, and a new economic dynamism lifted hundreds of millions of eastern and southern Asia out of poverty and into the middle class, the Middle East stagnated in a perverse time warp that reduced its brightest people to hopelessness or barely contained rage. The wonder is less that a new political restlessness is finally visible, but that it took so long to break through the ice.
 
But the NY Times still hasn't apologized for calling on Bush to postpone the Iraq election.....

> NY Times lead editorial:

>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/01/opinion/01tue1.html?pagewanted=print&position
> =

> March 1, 2005
> EDITORIAL
> Mideast Climate Change

> It's not even spring yet, but a long-frozen political order seems to be
> cracking all over the Middle East. Cautious hopes for something new and
> better are stirring along the Tigris and the Nile, the elegant boulevards
> of Beirut, and the impoverished towns of the Gaza Strip. It is far too
> soon for any certainties about ultimate outcomes. In Iraq, a brutal
> insurgency still competes for headlines with post-election democratic
> maneuvering. Yesterday a suicide bomber plowed into a crowd of Iraqi
> police and Army recruits, killing at least 122 people - the largest death
> toll in a single such bombing since the American invasion nearly two years
> ago. And the Palestinian terrorists who blew up a Tel Aviv nightclub last
> Friday underscored the continuing fragility of what has now been almost
> two months of steady political and diplomatic progress between Israelis
> and Palestinians.

> Still, this has so far been a year of heartening surprises - each one
> remarkable in itself, and taken together truly astonishing. The Bush
> administration is entitled to claim a healthy share of the credit for many
> of these advances. It boldly proclaimed the cause of Middle East democracy
> at a time when few in the West thought it had any realistic chance. And
> for all the negative consequences that flowed from the American invasion
> of Iraq, there could have been no democratic elections there this January
> if Saddam Hussein had still been in power. Washington's challenge now lies
> in finding ways to nurture and encourage these still fragile trends
> without smothering them in a triumphalist embrace.

> Lebanon's political reawakening took a significant new turn yesterday when
> popular protests brought down the pro-Syrian government of Prime Minister
> Omar Karami. Syria's occupation of Lebanon, nearly three decades long,
> started tottering after the Feb. 14 assassination of the country's leading
> independent politician, the former prime minister Rafik Hariri.

> If Damascus had a hand in this murder, as many Lebanese suspect, it had a
> boomerang effect on Lebanon's politics. Instead of intimidating critics of
> Syria's dominant role, it inflamed them. To stem the growing backlash over
> the Hariri murder, last week Syria announced its intentions to pull back
> its occupation forces to a region near the border - although without
> offering any firm timetable. Yesterday, with protests continuing, the
> pro-Syrian cabinet resigned. Washington, in an unusual alliance with
> France, continues to press for full compliance with the Security Council's
> demand for an early and complete Syrian withdrawal. That needs to happen
> promptly. Once Syria is gone, Hezbollah, which has engaged in
> international terrorism under Syrian protection, must either confine
> itself to peaceful political activity or be shut down.

> Last weekend's surprise announcement of plans to hold at least nominally
> competitive presidential elections in Egypt could prove even more
> historic, although many of the specific details seem likely to be
> disappointing. Egypt is the Arab world's most populous country and one of
> its most politically influential. In more than five millenniums of
> recorded history, it has never seen a truly free and competitive election.

> To be realistic, Egypt isn't likely to see one this year either. For all
> his talk of opening up the process, President Hosni Mubarak, 76, is likely
> to make sure that no threatening candidates emerge to deny him a fifth
> six-year term. But after seeing more than eight million Iraqis choose
> their leaders in January, Egypt's voters, and its increasingly courageous
> opposition movement, will no longer retreat into sullen hopelessness so
> readily. The Bush administration has helped foster that feeling of hope
> for a democratic future by keeping the pressure on Mr. Mubarak. But the
> real heroes are on-the-ground patriots like Ayman Nour, who founded a new
> party aptly named Tomorrow last October and is now in jail. If Mr. Mubarak
> truly wants more open politics, he should free Mr. Nour promptly.

> It is similarly encouraging that the terrorists who attacked a Tel Aviv
> nightclub on Friday, killing five Israelis, have not yet managed to
> completely scuttle the new peace dynamic between Israel and the
> Palestinian Authority. Israel contends that those terrorists were
> sponsored by Syria, but its soldiers reported discovering an
> explosives-filled car in the West Bank yesterday. The good news is that
> the leaders on both sides did not instantly retreat to familiar corners in
> angry rejectionism. Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and the new Palestinian
> leader, Mahmoud Abbas, have proved they can work together to thwart
> terrorism and deny terrorists an instant veto over progress toward a
> negotiated peace.

> Over the past two decades, as democracies replaced police states across
> Central and Eastern Europe and Latin America, and a new economic dynamism
> lifted hundreds of millions of eastern and southern Asia out of poverty
> and into the middle class, the Middle East stagnated in a perverse time
> warp that reduced its brightest people to hopelessness or barely contained
> rage. The wonder is less that a new political restlessness is finally
> visible, but that it took so long to break through the ice.
 
> you never cease to amaze me Megan on how far out of your (tiny) depth you
> can throw yourself, haha, no wonder your only 'mate' here is a moron. Mind
> you it proves that you believe everything your own corrupt government says
> if you believe everything our corrupt government says, as S.F. said in one
> of her above posts, we think freely, you ought to try it but it would
> probably be too much trouble.
> Stick to what you know best & continue to post about that silly
> american game you support. Has your season ticket gone up this year btw?
> Plenty of relish on them burgers.

> GrimO
Oh gosh, and I was giving you up for lent.
why yes we all know it takes a real intellectual to tell a vegetarian to put relish on her burgers.
But anyways, my feeling on the subject is maybe when your in your 20's, and not paying taxes,a mortgage, car payments ect to think the government is the center of all evil is cool, but what are you, in your early 40's? There has to be a time when you outgrow that. There has to be a time when if you think there is a problem with the government, go out and do something about it. Have you ever run for political office so other's may benefit from your socialist ideals? If not, why not move to another country if you think it's so much better? Or perhaps join in with the anti-England/ Union Jack flag burning people I saw at Hyde Park. Just a word of advice, with Morrissey' progessive viewpoints, best leave DVD's at home. Probably won't be making a sale that day.
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