At the Hollywood Bowl, Morrissey faithful make peace with his right-wing rhetoric - LA Times

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    At the Hollywood Bowl, Morrissey faithful make peace with his right-wing rhetoric - Los Angeles Times

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    For many Morrissey fans at his show Saturday, they’ve found a detente between his music and his slide into right-wing rhetoric.

    “He’s a human being, and his music speaks to a lot of people,” said Erika Alvarenga. “He’s entitled to his opinions. I’m not affected by it at all. The music is separate from his views.”

    “But if he ever started singing about immigrants, I wouldn’t come to his concerts anymore,” Jimmy Alvarenga added.

    Most Morrissey fans seemed aware that his politics and comments had turned darker since the U.S. and U.K. elections of 2016. But that didn’t seem to overly bother them as they waited outside the 17,500-capacity Hollywood Bowl. Morrissey isn’t quite the commercial draw he was decades ago — the day before the concert, many upper-level sections were barely half-sold — but by showtime, the crowd had filled out closer to capacity.

    Melissa Gomez, 46, from Rosemead, didn’t hesitate to say that she’d stick by Morrissey.

    “No way,” she said, when asked if his anti-immigrant stances might ever cost him her fandom. Gomez is Mexican American, and although treatment of migrants is a searing issue in American life, she wore her Morrissey shirt proudly. “He’s not the threat here,” she said. “He’s a good person.”

    Onstage at the Bowl, Morrissey struck a grateful tone, back in his adopted hometown in a left-leaning state. “I’m home, I’m home, I’m home,” he said, as he dove into his single “Suedehead,” which brought the crowd to its feet. He even titled his new album of classic-songbook covers “California Son,” a nod to the generations of fans here that have supported him through thick and thin.

    But at times, he couldn’t help himself, at one point donning a T-shirt bearing a profanity directed at the Guardian, a left-leaning British newspaper that has criticized his rhetoric in recent years.

    Some fans admitted they’d gone through mental gymnastics to square the sensitive singer they know and love with the unsurprising possibility that a very wealthy 60-year-old white man from Britain might have some unsavory views about immigrants in 2019. “I was really surprised,” Jimmy Alvarenga said, recalling when he first heard of Morrissey’s slide rightward.

    But others seemed resigned that canceling Morrissey at this point may just be too much of a loss.

    “He says the dumbest stuff,” said Evan Navarro, 23, of L.A., who has listened to Morrissey and the Smiths for a decade. “But I love his music. There’s just too much history there.”


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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by davidt, Oct 28, 2019.

    1. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      uh huh only Skinny is peeved with Morrissey. It's just the one dissenting voice.
    2. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Who knows Reelfountain, who knows? Are you feeling so lonely you've resorted to creating 'anonymous' personalities that agree with you?
    3. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      So, spiritual then. That didn't work out too well for him in Portland.
    4. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      There's a badge of honour. I wonder if he'll wear that on stage? Lower and lower he descends.
    5. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      What a fucking disgrace Morrissey has become. So much so that arch right-wingers Aaron Banks (Corrupt Party) and Richard Tice (Brexit Party) felt the need to lend their support.

      Morrissey you are finished in the UK.
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    6. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Apart from active tax avoidance schemes can you guess what else Morrissey, Banks and Tice have in common?

      That's correct: they've all made racist statements. It seems Morrissey's made himself some new friends.
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    7. SheilaSmith
      SheilaSmith
      “He’s a human being, and his music speaks to a lot of people,” said Erika Alvarenga. “He’s entitled to his opinions. I’m not affected by it at all. The music is separate from his views.”

      “But if he ever started singing about immigrants, I wouldn’t come to his concerts anymore,” Jimmy Alvarenga added.

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    8. reelfountain
      reelfountain
      Are these people Indian?

      The Indian caste system is the epitome of supremacy.
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    9. Nerak
      Nerak
      Alsatian Cousin? If you want to hate on him, you might try researching his songs first. Alsatian Cousin is about a relationship between a teacher & a student & the title comes from an Alan Bennett play.
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    10. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Must be a headfuck for you.
    11. marred
      marred
      But they're not white so it's okay.
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    12. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      The son of immigrant parents doesn't live in England for tax reasons.
      He is an elite immigrant.
    13. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      If Morrissey is mad enough to tour the UK again the concerts are going to be violet. Perhaps he will get a kick out of that
    14. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Fact is he is an immigrant.
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    15. Roger O
      Roger O
      What, so now LA Times feels bad about that disgraceful headline they printed. Morrissey is anti immigrant etc.
      Too late to take it back. They deserve F the LA Times t-shirts. Morrissey fans are awesome. Big kiss.
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    16. Anonymous
      Anonymous

      Your both catching on and got the hang of it now.
      Insane diego, one somolio-Joe had 4 wives going. One was 12, missing from school for a year and asking for section 8, food stamps, welfare checks, car, medical, for...her new baby. All o.k.
    17. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Someone of immigrant lineage perfectly content to put the boot into others in a similar situation .... that's Morrissey for you. Not white immigrants though. He's made no mention of those. Apparently, that's different. Quite, quite different but not, absolutely not, racist.

      As for Fuckfountain's caste comment ...
      any system that puts anyone above anyone else due to how/where they were born is unacceptable. There's no-one better at divisive segragation than the English system of elitism. A system that Fuckfountain claims to despise but can within the same sentence nimbly support the current architects.

      Stupid, stupid Fuckfountain.
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    18. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Violet is my favourite colour
    19. Me14
      Me14
      You keep bringing this B's. rascism ! Ii have never seen a video of him speaking of this. Right B's. You must be a Muslim too or maybe. Morrissey rejected your soul. And kick you out of a concert that's why you attack him. He can say whatever he wants!!. I love him. His music his voice his band.his spirit. His revel side he is one of the kind. God bless him And we will love him forever and ever. So. You are barking at the wrong fucking tree!
    20. vegan cro spirit 555
      vegan cro spirit 555
      :straightface:
      OF COURSE THEY ARE MUSLIM FFS:swear
      Skinny and his fake aliases are all wannabe ayatollahs.:whip:

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