Artitst that is killilng their once fruitful career more than Morrissey?

Discussion in 'Other Music' started by Last Night I Tripped, Nov 6, 2018.

  1. Sinead O'Conner/Shuhada Davitt/what ever she wants to be called now..... I have always loved the music but she needs to get some real help. Not Dr. Phil.....
     
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    g23 Always crashing in the same car

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    This implies that Ms O'Connor had a career to begin with. She's fringier than one of Neil Diamond's shirts from the early 70s.
    Always has been apart from her famous Prince cover.
     
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    Sinead's mental illness has overwhelmed everything and every new 'chapter' reported in the press is more bleak than the last - it's sad to see a person in that state, whatever you think of the music. She needs serious, long-term help away from the public eye. It sometimes feels like the news media are just waiting for her to snap and take her life.
     
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    I thought the The Lion & The Cobra was a good debut album plus her use of ex-Smiths interested me whilst they were around.
    The subsequent music and then more prevelant non-musical issues ensured I'd lost interest before the 90's let alone 20+ years later.
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    I thought when she tore up that picture of the pope on Saturday Night Live, it was a powerful statement.

    https://media.giphy.com/media/144AwUhyWDaCiI/giphy.gif

    Sinead also performed on "Kingdom of Rain" with Matt Johnson and Johnny Marr in the The on the Mind Bomb album.
     
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  9. Aaqilah X

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    Listen here! You think you have it rough? Everybody is supposed to feel sorry for you? You can yell about racism all you want. I will just laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh. You funny dude!
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    GTFO of here with that!
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    I'd happily marry this girl.
     
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    bhops Last of the famous international screw ups.

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    Well if men can magically become women and women can magically become men then I see this as no more unreasonable or outlandish than the premise of transgenderism.
     
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    It's not quite as outlandish as it sounds. A fair few black people act, think and behave more stereotypically 'white' then 'black'. I notice it all the time - it's quite blatantly obvious. They're the kind of people who cringe and feel embarrassed when, for example, a quiet bus ride suddenly turns into a noisy mini-riot when a group of young extrovert blacks jump on.

    Hearing somebody admit to feeling more white than black might at first seem hilarious (the audience looked more entertained then offended) - but on refection it's just blatant (but admittedly unusual) honesty.

    It works the other way too. In London there are plenty of young white people who act, speak and feel more 'black', having grown up with so many black people / culture around them.
     
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    Gender and race are not the same thing.
     
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    bhops Last of the famous international screw ups.

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    Oh I agree, but they are both immutable characteristics that you can't magically change just because you 'feel' a different way.
     
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    I'm sorry but you can't magically declare that gender is an "immutable characteristic" just because you feel that way.
    It sounds like you're saying "I understand everything; therefore what I don't understand does not exist."
     
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    bhops Last of the famous international screw ups.

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    There are two genders, male and female, XY chromosomes XX chromosomes. It's not difficult to understand.
     
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    Apparently it is because you don't. Google "how many genders are there" and you'll quickly discover that the answer is not "two" and that what constitutes "gender" is more complicated than you realize.
    Everything you have stated as a fact here is incorrect. The concept of race is complex enough without equating it to an even more complex system of classification about which you seem to be willfully uninformed. Do yourself a favor and keep it simple.
    Race is a relatively new concept used by anthropologists to identify the people whose resources could be stolen with justification. Contemporary anthropologists debate whether it even can be said to exist.
     
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    bhops Last of the famous international screw ups.

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    Oh you're going down the whole 'gender is a social construct route.' I don't pay any attention to that jibber jabber. there are two genders, period. of course you have odd natural anomaly such hermaphrodites but they are a rare statistically speaking. But let me guess you belong in the whole 'gender is a spectrum camp?' well if there are a 1001 genders and gender isa spectrum then in effect there are 6 billion different genders as v=everyone is different, right? And what do you get from that, nutters such as a trans woman wanting getting smear test even when they don't have a cervix (duh!) just for the 'feelz.'

    Now 'race' is an anthropological concept? Again go to any doctor and ask them about different races suffering different types of disease, diabetes, being prone to obesity etc. Well you can tell them, 'no need to check this race for diabetes because it's all a construct!' Genius.
     
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    Sex and race are biological characteristics. Gender and ethnicity are the cultural markers assigned to each sex and race. You can be a biological male who identifies as having a female gender. You can be biologically Asian but have a white cultural identity--ethnicity. Sex and race are static. Gender and ethnicity are dynamic and can change from culture to culture and generation to generation.

    Race IS an anthropological concept. I think you are confusing the word concept with construct.
     
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