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Wtf? is there such a thing as danish tv shows? what kind of stuff do they do in those shows? pour vodka on the snow?doh:
i think in daneland, if peeps have autism nobody would even notice, for sure, everybodys very sensitive there.:russia:
 
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I would love to make up a good story line for another The Bridge Series and to work out your idea of the suicide pact playing a big role in it.
I think I can and am good at it.
Maybe we could work it out and Saga would do one more series?
If it’s a good story she might change her mind about not doing another one?

I loved her from the start in the brilliant "Masjävlar" about life in a small village in Dalecarlia.


"You work with data."


Who would play me?
 
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Johann "Hans" Friedrich Karl Asperger???? Jean-Marc-Gaspard Itard?????

what sort of names are these? these sound more like Frankenstein type doctora than
real doctors. the one Dr Lizard discovered autism in the 18 centuries? WTF? they didnt
even have medicine back in the day.... they would sic lizards on you so as to bleed you.

no i dont believe in having a bunch of sensitive types making funny pictures of naked dudes
and smoking weed all day and peeps who go out and work having to pay for it. should you
want to drink gin all day and not work they would be the first one to get all in an uproar over
it. they figure it defeats to purpose of scamming if they get scammed.:rolleyes:

Calisthenics is not bodily movements or any of that its exercise, jumping jacks , push ups
that sort of thing, to get you away from all this aspermumbaiburger/autism nonsense.
keep you away from the funny pictures.


No im not a Scientologist but they seem to be cheaper than all these atsahamburger dracula
doctors. you just latch on to small buzz box and if you get autistic they send a powerful electric charge
into you until you get cured.
seems to be cheaper than going to the Shasha institute were
you are sure to get fleeced.


you seem thoroughly confused, no doubt, probably why you buy into all the hocus pocus.:crazy:

ps have you ever heard of someone who spends all day smoking weed an looking for
dudes who got real work? maybe in the UK.
They were real people and doctors who lived real lives. I think you are being very disrespectful to them, to their memory and to their families. I personally think it is wrong to speak ill of the dead. Hans Asperger is actually the doctor that Asperger Syndrome is named after!

Please read the 'History of Autism' by Steve McGuinness see link:

https://www.autismuk.com/home-page/history-of-autism/

It doesn't sound to me like you read the link I sent you properly. You don't seem to know much about the history of Autism or the history of Western medicine (allopathic medicine).

I think you mean leeches not lizards they were used in medicine to help to try and heal wounds amongst other things.

People with Autism and Asperger's do NOT sit around all day drawing pictures of naked dudes and smoke Cannabis. Where on earth did you get that idea from?

I'm very much against the use of street drugs such as Cannabis. Those sorts of drugs are actually illegal here in Britain! Also I don't drink alcohol at all and I don't smoke.

I don't like swearing at all there really is no need to swear to get your point across!

Medical care is free here in Britain. I have NEVER had private medical insurance the NHS does a brilliant job!

I personally think the NHS is one of greatest things about living in Britain! I think if you are a British citizen you should have more respect for the NHS and more respect for Cambridge University which is one of the finest universities in the world! Cambridge University is where Professor Simon Baron-Cohen is based. Maybe you could write to Simon Baron-Cohen and he could explain to you more about his work? You could explain to him that you think he is a con artist or a scam artist. I'm sure he would be happy to reply.

Which university did you study at by the way?

At least our NHS medical care is free! You have to pay to become member of the 'Church of Scientology' which is actually a dangerous Cult and what is more it doesn't save lives like our beloved NHS does! My advice to you is to stay well away from Scientology.

Whist the history of Autism goes way back to the Eighteenth century. Paul "Eugen" Bleuler born April 30th, 1857 who was a Swiss psychiatrist is thought to be responsible for the first use of the term Autism around the year 1910 (or maybe a couple of years earlier?) as he was defining symptoms of schizophrenia patients. He derived the word Autism from the Greek word 'autos' (meaning 'self'), Bleuler is also recognized today for having a different neurological disorder called Synesthesia, in which the main senses of the human mind (touch, taste, smell, sight, hear, pain, color, graphemes, etc.) are ‘mixed up’. Bleuler died in Zurich on July 15th, 1939.

The word Autism first took its modern sense around the year 1938 when Hans Asperger of the Vienna University Hospital adopted Bleuler’s terminology in a lecture in German about child psychology. Asperger was investigating a form of ASD now known as Asperger syndrome (AS), though for various reasons it was not widely recognized as a separate diagnosis until 1981. Asperger syndrome is thought to be more "mild" than full-blown Autism.

To prove to you that Paul "Eugen" Bleuler was a real person who really lived this is his Wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_Bleuler

To prove to you that Hans Asperger was a real person who really lived this is his Wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Asperger

Leo Kanner's Wikipedia page (he is another key figure in the history of Autism):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Kanner

To prove to you that Jean Marc Gaspard Itard was a real person who really lived this is his Wikipedia page (by the way I like his name I think it sounds really 'French'!):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Marc_Gaspard_Itard

If you read my previous post carefully- I explained Callisthenics is gymnastic type exercises see Wikipedia page for more info:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calisthenics


This is an interesting article about Scientology called "Scientology: The Thriving Cult of Greed and Power" see link:

https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Fishman/time-behar.html

The info you have have told me about Scientology is really disturbing and upsetting if it is true. Sending a powerful electric charge to someone who is Autistic is very cruel! Do you know if there is a way we can stop this from happening? There is NO known cure for Autism. That will definitely NOT work or help. It very upsetting to hear that things like that go on out there! These people have lied to you and have brainwashed you. You must be so upset about this. I'm praying for you. xxx

By the way I don't think I am confused. I thought you seemed confused because you thought all elderly people have Autism which isn't true.

Having disability benefits is actually cheaper than the alternative which is to go back to the Victorian days when they had the big asylums and disabled people and the mental ill got institutionalised. "Care in the Community" is actually cheaper! Also there are lots of disabled people who have paid jobs and also voluntary jobs! You don't come across as very socialist in your thinking or very understanding of how tough things are for people in our society with all kinds of different disabilities. This shows we still have a long way to go.
 

Charlie Cheswick

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I "believe" in everything and I believe in nothing. You are confusing me with someone else, since I never said that I don't "believe" autistic kids are autistic. That was another member. I just said that labels of long life mental conditions, mainly in childhood, are very risky and should be avoided since
1) Until now psyquiatry is closer to quackery than to a proper science, and a proof of that circumstance is that what was considered correct during a historical moment is seen as a horror tale only some decades later. That includes opioids epidemic, between another genocide-like cruelties.
2) Being autistic, down or impaired physically, mentally or both shouldn't lessen the rights of people to be respected in all the areas of their personalities, as soon as they are not a risk for themselves or for others (and in this case only for safety reasons). That means they shouldn't be discriminated in school or in any other activity, they should be protected from bullies like everybody else, and bully or segregation shouldn't be considered as a normal conducts towards them, especially when it comes from teachers or carers. But also other children should learn from a very early age to interact and protect them, not being excused for bulling them, because that is what happens - the making of a terrible excuse to cruelty- when for whatever reason the bullied kid is separated and the bully kid remain in the group.

Not to want to drag this out lol, to straighten one thing out, my kids don't see psychiatrists. Never have. Psychiatrists are for people with mental illnesses.
 
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Not that there's anything wrong with that.
you can say that again LOL not on this forum, thats for sure. then nuttier you are the more of a savant you are considered. in the world tho, if you someone spies a couple of yous walking down the street they would at once call interpol

Salaam...:turban::praying:
 

bun bun

baklava
you can say that again LOL not on this forum, thats for sure. then nuttier you are the more of a savant you are considered. in the world tho, if you someone spies a couple of yous walking down the street they would at once call interpol

Salaam...:turban::praying:

Could you write that in English please? I don't speak dumbass.
 
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They were real people and doctors who lived real lives. I think you are being very disrespectful to them, to their memory and to their families. I personally think it is wrong to speak ill of the dead. Hans Asperger is actually the doctor that Asperger Syndrome is named after!

Please read the 'History of Autism' by Steve McGuinness see link:

https://www.autismuk.com/home-page/history-of-autism/

It doesn't sound to me like you read the link I sent you properly. You don't seem to know much about the history of Autism or the history of Western medicine (allopathic medicine).

I think you mean leeches not lizards they were used in medicine to help to try and heal wounds amongst other things.

People with Autism and Asperger's do NOT sit around all day drawing pictures of naked dudes and smoke Cannabis. Where on earth did you get that idea from?

I'm very much against the use of street drugs such as Cannabis. Those sorts of drugs are actually illegal here in Britain! Also I don't drink alcohol at all and I don't smoke.

I don't like swearing at all there really is no need to swear to get your point across!

Medical care is free here in Britain. I have NEVER had private medical insurance the NHS does a brilliant job!

I personally think the NHS is one of greatest things about living in Britain! I think if you are a British citizen you should have more respect for the NHS and more respect for Cambridge University which is one of the finest universities in the world! Cambridge University is where Professor Simon Baron-Cohen is based. Maybe you could write to Simon Baron-Cohen and he could explain to you more about his work? You could explain to him that you think he is a con artist or a scam artist. I'm sure he would be happy to reply.

Which university did you study at by the way?

At least our NHS medical care is free! You have to pay to become member of the 'Church of Scientology' which is actually a dangerous Cult and what is more it doesn't save lives like our beloved NHS does! My advice to you is to stay well away from Scientology.

Whist the history of Autism goes way back to the Eighteenth century. Paul "Eugen" Bleuler born April 30th, 1857 who was a Swiss psychiatrist is thought to be responsible for the first use of the term Autism around the year 1910 (or maybe a couple of years earlier?) as he was defining symptoms of schizophrenia patients. He derived the word Autism from the Greek word 'autos' (meaning 'self'), Bleuler is also recognized today for having a different neurological disorder called Synesthesia, in which the main senses of the human mind (touch, taste, smell, sight, hear, pain, color, graphemes, etc.) are ‘mixed up’. Bleuler died in Zurich on July 15th, 1939.

The word Autism first took its modern sense around the year 1938 when Hans Asperger of the Vienna University Hospital adopted Bleuler’s terminology in a lecture in German about child psychology. Asperger was investigating a form of ASD now known as Asperger syndrome (AS), though for various reasons it was not widely recognized as a separate diagnosis until 1981. Asperger syndrome is thought to be more "mild" than full-blown Autism.

To prove to you that Paul "Eugen" Bleuler was a real person who really lived this is his Wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_Bleuler

To prove to you that Hans Asperger was a real person who really lived this is his Wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Asperger

Leo Kanner's Wikipedia page (he is another key figure in the history of Autism):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Kanner

To prove to you that Jean Marc Gaspard Itard was a real person who really lived this is his Wikipedia page (by the way I like his name I think it sounds really 'French'!):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Marc_Gaspard_Itard

If you read my previous post carefully- I explained Callisthenics is gymnastic type exercises see Wikipedia page for more info:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calisthenics


This is an interesting article about Scientology called "Scientology: The Thriving Cult of Greed and Power" see link:

https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Fishman/time-behar.html

The info you have have told me about Scientology is really disturbing and upsetting if it is true. Sending a powerful electric charge to someone who is Autistic is very cruel! Do you know if there is a way we can stop this from happening? There is NO known cure for Autism. That will definitely NOT work or help. It very upsetting to hear that things like that go on out there! These people have lied to you and have brainwashed you. You must be so upset about this. I'm praying for you. xxx

By the way I don't think I am confused. I thought you seemed confused because you thought all elderly people have Autism which isn't true.

Having disability benefits is actually cheaper than the alternative which is to go back to the Victorian days when they had the big asylums and disabled people and the mental ill got institutionalised. "Care in the Community" is actually cheaper! Also there are lots of disabled people who have paid jobs and also voluntary jobs! You don't come across as very socialist in your thinking or very understanding of how tough things are for people in our society with all kinds of different disabilities. This shows we still have a long way to go.


let me briefly respond to your more salient, if somewhat nutty , propositions:

nobody had claimed that dr Hans The Hamburger Asperburger was not real, but you would
have to be zonked out to go to him for medicine. Seeing the 'practiced' his craft in a medieval
castle back several centuries ago. besides, what kind of nonsense is this derivation of this word
for the non existing condition from a greek word? WtF kind of nonsense is that? My guess: toking weed.

when they stuck either lizards, leeches or snakes on you, the result was the eventual death
of the patient, patient never would get cured but would keel over. NO CURE! sound familiar
no cure for this autism either. both are voodoo type of affairs. for sure, know it.:mask:

Next: most autism patients on this forum, the ones we are prognosticating do nothing but
try to draw or hit on dudes, and smoke weed. its a given. no further analysis on this point
needed.

None of those doctors are legit. What kind of a doctor makes sudden discovery of all these non existing conditions and then tell you, after sucking you dry of money, that there is no cure! whats the purpose of
these so called institutes then? to rob you of your money directly or indirectly when they rubber off
the govt.:tonguewink:

no im not a socialist!! F no. whats would be the puropse of being a fing savant if you cant even pay
for your kids doctor FFS!!! what kind of savant would that be. everybody can be a savant if the mark
down the street pick up the tab.:handpointleft:

Calisthenics is exercise. not that graceful movement ballet type of stuff. Jumping jacks, chin ups etc. not ballet LOL ballet makes your condition worse.

yes its cheaper to keep ALL savants on the dole forever LOL:straightface:

you need a bit of sense.
 
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Not to want to drag this out lol, to straighten one thing out, my kids don't see psychiatrists. Never have. Psychiatrists are for people with mental illnesses.


WTFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!:eek:

yesterday everybody was nuts with various syndromes and today everybody is street legal???
yesterday no cure in sight today everybody chub and ready to go, lean and mean robot machines?

whos going to keep Dr Sasha and Dr Hans in cigars and cheeseburgers?:tears:
 

countthree

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Not to want to drag this out lol, to straighten one thing out, my kids don't see psychiatrists. Never have. Psychiatrists are for people with mental illnesses.

You are scaring me. Who made the diagnosis? Psychology is even worst. I've read a lot of psychology books. I still do. But I read books about Zodiac and I find them interesting too.

I wonder why nobody said we are utterly off-topic here.
 

countthree

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I guess it is even worse.
I mean there are already “robots” or unidentifiable entities you could name robots as such, instructing people to push buttons, without them (the people) knowing, in the digital world that they are.

By the way, I am okay.
If I live, I live and if I die, I die.
I will take a rest when I do. :rolleyes:

Do you mean the bots you help to program with your answers when you interact with them? Like Urbanus, for example?
 

Peterb

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You are scaring me. Who made the diagnosis? Psychology is even worst. I've read a lot of psychology books. I still do. But I read books about Zodiac and I find them interesting too.

I wonder why nobody said we are utterly off-topic here.
Do you mean Psychiatry (as Charles referred to) or Psychology?
Or both?
Is it all nonsense?
Freud, Jung. Were they just a couple of chancers?
 

Quando quando quando

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I loved her from the start in the brilliant "Masjävlar" about life in a small village in Dalecarlia.


"You work with data."


Who would play me?

I think you know very well that the only one who could play you is you.
Same goes for me.

And obviously, for Moz too as evidenced very recently.

Not that I want to compare you or me with him as also very obviously I am a very different person.

But your idea about the suicide pact playing a major part in another The Bridge series is f***ing great and it immediately got my fantasy and imagination working to write that storyline.
 

Quando quando quando

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Do you mean the bots you help to program with your answers when you interact with them? Like Urbanus, for example?

No, I don’t mean the bots.
I mean the much higher level AI (Artificial Intelligence) that already has been created and is allowed to do all kinds of programming, without any interference of humans and has become the unidentifiable master of all things related to the internet and the digital world.

Which as has been forecasted by many researchers will rule our lives on a base as nothing before and governments won’t protect us from the negative sides of it cause governments want power to control our lives. And they will fully support this development.

The big financial powers of the world are convinced to invest in it, cause it gives them a very good profit and that is the main and only goal.
 
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URBANUS

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I think you know very well that the only one who could play you is you.
Same goes for me.

And obviously, for Moz too as evidenced very recently.

Not that I want to compare you or me with him as also very obviously I am a very different person.

But your idea about the suicide pact playing a major part in another The Bridge series is f***ing great and it immediately got my fantasy and imagination working to write that storyline.

We're found separately of course, me in Sweden and you in Holland. We both have the same letters and refer to each other.

What an awful actor I would be playing me, I mean I can't even fake it in real life.
 

bun bun

baklava
So you admit you're mentally ill. Some of us are not surprised at all. You return here in a foul mood cause your rebound lover dumped ya as well.

It is time to emigrate to Greece.

Well, I was prescribed antidepressants once after my husband died. I’m sure you’ll find something nasty to say about that, too. Oh wait, you already have. I believe your exact words were "he deserved to die, it was his punishment for being gay".

In any case, grief is a fairly normal emotion that doesn’t need to be / shouldn’t be medicated away. So, no, no mental illness or any diagnoses of mental illness here. Not that there’d be anything wrong with it. I am, however, certain that you are quite seriously disturbed and would urge you to seek help.
 
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