Vauxhall Vixen
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Blimey, it's going to be harder than I thought to cut through all the hate. Maybe I over-estimated how objective I could be.
As for the old comments from Momus somebody has dug up - when he says Morrissey "cut the NME dead" because of Danny Kelly's "partisanship" for Marr - this would lead one to assume that Morrissey never spoke to the NME after the break-up of the Smiths, which he did, continually. The NME and Morrissey had a very good relationship up until 1992. (He agreed to appear on our 40th anniversary cover when we asked him.) It's amazing how history gets rewritten.
And nobody has answered my question about why Morrissey chose to work with myself, Danny Kelly and Stuart Maconie on Q - and, as I say, came up to the office to look at the photo session, where he was as nice as pie. Why would he do that if he bored a grudge against individuals? You may have some insight on this.
Andrew lets keep it simple:
In 1992 you were clearly in the wrong - morrissey was not being imflamatory or flirting with dangerous imagery, any one with half a brain could see that - he was addressing an issue poetically and sensitively.
the fact that he didn't respond directly to you isn't important - stop going on about it - you don't have the right to demand he defends himself - you are a little man
Your argument that he continued to communicate with the journalist who wrote the piece in 1992 is also not relavant - so what? - your article is still rubbish. If he speaks to you again is that an admission of guilt or an act of forgiveness - no
lets just focus on the article itself - it was a terrible hatchet job wasn't it Andrew - reading it again must be embarrassing - i bet you wish it would just go away.
The reason this argument keeps coming up in your life is because you continue to lose the argument and yet you never take any reponsibility
Say in with me Andrew "The NME article was a hatchet job - Morrissey was not and is not racist - i'm sorry i contributed"
Just stop squirming and say it Andrew, stop defending your limp words with weak argument designed to distract from the truth of the matter - you got it badly wrong - you will feel better i promise and you will never have to lose this argument again.
Hear, Hear Smiler! your argument is well put. I think Collins probably realises he was wrong in the NME 1992 article but doesn't want to back down now after all these years.However if he WERE to admit to his mistake he would probably find it easier to put all this behind him and get our sympathy for his situation with Richard Herring. He doesn't like it when the boot is on the other foot.
He is coming to the wrong place if he expects us, on a Morrissey forum, to agree with the NME's stitch-up and his involvement in it.It is great that he felt he could come here for a debate but I don't think he could handle the likes of Worm and Danny! His veiled compliments to them reveal that.I would be surprised if we hear much more from him, after all he is so busy and he really wants to 'move on' and not get bogged down in such obsessiveness (even though he started it!)
What next, Little Man?