"And Goodbye To 2018" - Morrissey Central (December 27th)

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By Famous when dead on Dec 27, 2018 at 5:38 AM
  1. Famous when dead

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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Famous when dead, Dec 27, 2018.

    1. vegan cro spirit 222
      vegan cro spirit 222

      same size as:handpointright::guardsman::handpointleft: 5 foot 1 or at most 5 foot 2:fist:
    2. Anonymous
      5ft4 and full of crap.
      Not even average. Poor singer who died a peasant.
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    3. Surface
      Everyone’s entitled to an opinion but guess what, you knew of him, however he didn’t die a peasant and will always be remembered due to having a Wiki page, whereas you as a troll will certainly die a peasant, be chucked into an unmarked grave with nobody in attendance and remembered by no one. Well done on spending your time alive so full of bile and hate.
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    4. Aubrey McFate
      Aubrey McFate
      5'4" sounds right, judging from the picture. That's definitely short. I remember when Tori Amos bizarrely called Morrissey short. I wonder what she would've thought of Pete Shelley.
    5. Surface
      It is right, he was the same height as my wife and I mentioned it one night when they were stood side by side. I doubt whether Tori Amos would think anything about Pete as he was generally a very private person.
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    6. Aubrey McFate
      Aubrey McFate
      I meant, what she would've thought of his height. Because she's 5'2" and Morrissey's about 6' I believe, yet she described him as "this little short guy." If she thought Morrissey was short ...
    7. Surface
      If she knew of him and his height and said what you say she said about Morrisseys height I assume she would have thought Pete was very short?
    8. Mayfly
      I don't know whether Linder said anything on this subject, but Jo Slee definitely did in an interview. Here's the quote you are looking for:
      "He was very ill with depression," says Jo Slee. "He wasn't really fit to go on the road, although I didn't know how ill he was until he really began to come apart at the seams"
      You can find the entire article (Manchester's answer to the H-bomb: how it all blew up on Morrisey and The Smiths" in the archives on this site:

      I had read it before, but reading it again, I shall say that it is still very relevant today. Very insightful.
    9. Mayfly
      Oops, I should have scrolled through the entire thread, but I was eager to look up that article again. Among many insightful comments, this one seems very pertinent:
      Grant Showbiz: "I can imagine Morrissey bankrupting himself one day. He loves tragedy. He thinks the world's against him."

      We have seen glimpses of these self-destructive forces in 2018.
      At the same time, Morrissey is a relentless fighter, doesn't really give up easily.
      It will be interesting to see what 2019 (and the years beyond) will bring.
      Always hoping for the best, but not necessarily expecting it.
    10. gordyboy9
      we can add june whitfield to this list,great comedy actress.
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    11. Anonymous
      Morrissey was very clear about why he let the Bowie tour.

      The excuse of depression was just a standard marketing ploy, much like how publicists claim that a certain embattled celebrity is going to rehab to escape the tabloids.

      Many Morrissey fans have an almost child-like naivete when it comes to the subject of Morrissey. They think he's supernatural, and above petty ego battles.
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    12. Anonymous
      It describes in clinical detail the elements of a personality disorder. To be fair, a personality disorder is not a mental illness, but it helps to explain the nature of a person's tendency toward dysfunctional relationships.

      Also, I do believe that Morrissey's persona, and lyrics attract fans with personality disorders.

      I'm not saying this as a condemnation, but as a means for some to help understand Morrissey, and themselves a bit more.

      When it comes to personality disorders, a little self-awareness goes a long way to improving yourself. Everyone could use some self-awareness.
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    13. Aubrey McFate
      Aubrey McFate
      The only problem here is that what gets termed "disordered" is the prerogative of the majority. Consensus rules, and as it happens, most people in this life have the compassion of a rock. Morrissey is the exceptional kind of person who actually thinks and feels, and because he can transmit that through his music, he appeals to other people who think and feel. There are, of course, casual Morrissey fans out there, but he inspires obsessiveness in his fans on a rare level because his sensitivity is so exceptional.

      If Morrissey was well-adjusted according to the consensus, well, then he would've just been another Robbie Williams or someone, and the music would communicate nothing, neither insight nor hilarity. "Improving yourself" is for the dullards who buy Jordan Peterson self-help books. Anyway, Morrissey could never improve himself because, as I think he once said of his own hair, "you don't tamper with perfection."
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    14. gordyboy9
      shelley must have had Scottish roots with names like campbel mcneish.

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