Agartha Podcast: How To Mix Vocals Like A Pro: Joe Chiccarelli - Morrissey mentions (October 9, 2024)



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Technical discussion about recording vocals.
Not checked for Morrissey mentions.
Mentions confirmed below.
FWD.
 


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Technical discussion about recording vocals.
Not checked for Morrissey mentions.
FWD.

I haven't listened to the whole thing but from 52 mins:
"Can you tell us what it was like working with Morrissey?"
"The best. He's one of the greatest artists I've ever worked with in my life. I have so much respect for him as an artist. He really cares so much about what he does and what he says and he has a very specific aesthetic. He pushes myself and the band really hard to come up with something that sounds different on every song we work on. He never wants it to sound like the past."


There's quite a bit more, he goes on to say how incredible the voice is and how it gets better and better. It's 'miraculous.'

"I'm really excited because we started a new album almost a year ago and I think it's got some of the best songs that I've ever done with him. There's a number of them that I'm really proud of."
 
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I haven't listened to the whole thing but from 52 mins:
"Can you tell us what it was like working with Morrissey?"
"The best. He's one of the greatest artists I've ever worked with in my life. I have so much respect for him as an artist. He really cares so much about what he does and what he says and he has a very specific aesthetic. He pushes myself and the band really hard to come up with something that sounds different on every song we work on. He never wants it to sound like the past."


There is a bit more, he goes on too say how incredible the voice is and how it gets better and better. It's 'miraculous.'

"I'm really excited because we started a new album almost a year ago and I think it's got some of the best songs that I've ever done with him. There's a number of them that I'm really proud of."
Thank you - will make a separate thread.
FWD.
 
I've admittedly not listened, but I do wonder (if he wasn't put on the spot here) what Joe's thoughts are on how Watt "treated" M's vocals on Bonfire.
 
I've admittedly not listened, but I do wonder (if he wasn't put on the spot here) what Joe's thoughts are on how Watt "treated" M's vocals on Bonfire.
He wasn't asked in the interview, but I'm sure he was appalled. He seems to have a very sensible approach to recording and mixing vocals, and brings he best out of the artist. He made a point that Morrissey wants his songs to sound new and different, and not like anything else he has done in the past. Watt is obsessed with nostalgia and trying to make the artist sound "young" again. Unfortunately, he makes them sound artificial in the process. He has done the same thing with Ozzy, Mick Jagger and Eddie Vedder with similar (terrible) results.
 
always liked joe chics production,the voice is always very clear and the music is crisp and the lyrics are easy to make out which isnt always the case.
 
He wasn't asked in the interview, but I'm sure he was appalled. He seems to have a very sensible approach to recording and mixing vocals, and brings he best out of the artist. He made a point that Morrissey wants his songs to sound new and different, and not like anything else he has done in the past. Watt is obsessed with nostalgia and trying to make the artist sound "young" again. Unfortunately, he makes them sound artificial in the process. He has done the same thing with Ozzy, Mick Jagger and Eddie Vedder with similar (terrible) results.
Thanks for the synopsis 🙏


Joe is great and given the option I'd have preferred he worked on Bonfire as I'm convinced it would have sounded "better". It's unlikely he'd have screwed the vocals. That said, I would love Moz to work with someone (not named Watt) outside of his comfort zone.
 
He wasn't asked in the interview, but I'm sure he was appalled. He seems to have a very sensible approach to recording and mixing vocals, and brings he best out of the artist. He made a point that Morrissey wants his songs to sound new and different, and not like anything else he has done in the past. Watt is obsessed with nostalgia and trying to make the artist sound "young" again. Unfortunately, he makes them sound artificial in the process. He has done the same thing with Ozzy, Mick Jagger and Eddie Vedder with similar (terrible) results.
So how does he keep getting work?
 
He wasn't asked in the interview, but I'm sure he was appalled. :lbf: He seems to have a very sensible approach to recording and mixing vocals, and brings he best out of the artist. He made a point that Morrissey wants his songs to sound new and different, and not like anything else he has done in the past. Watt is obsessed with nostalgia and trying to make the artist sound "young" again. Unfortunately, he makes them sound artificial in the process. He has done the same thing with Ozzy, Mick Jagger and Eddie Vedder with similar (terrible) results.

which is why Watt did what Watt was probably asked to do, or Watt showed M what he did to his vocals on RWA and Morrissey loved it.

Do you really think that M would let a mix go out without his full approval? Use your loaf!
 
The comments were in regard to the treatment of Morrissey's voice in the studio.

Also, it’s one song (RWA) that some people are judging a whole album on, an album that they haven’t even heard yet. His vocals on the Veronica clip that we’ve heard does not sound as treated as they do on the RWA release.
 
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always liked joe chics production,the voice is always very clear and the music is crisp and the lyrics are easy to make out which isnt always the case.

Joe’s fine, and artists like working with him.
I can’t wait to hear BoT, with the example of RWA that we’ve heard, I hope the rest of the album will (more or less) take us, the fans, somewhere else rather than the usual sonic landscapes that past Morrissey albums have already covered. But I always crave the unexpected. Fingers crossed!
 

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