A random hypothetical question followed by a sad poem

[chica]

The poem is about puppies, but it couldn't be sadder even if it was about children


Sergey Aleksandrovich Yesenin
The Bitch


In the morning the bitch whelped
Seven reddish-brown puppies,
In the rye barn where a row
Of bast mats gleamed like gold.

Licking their pelts smooth,
And underneath her, the snow
Melted out in the heat.

But at dusk, when the hens
Were roosting on the perch,
There came the grim-faced master
Who stuffed the pups in a sack.

The bitch bounded alongside him,
Over the snow-deep fields,
And the icy surface of the water
Shuddered a long, long while.

And when at last she struggled home,
Licking the sweat from her sides,
To her the moon above the house
Seemed like one of the pups.

Whimpering loudly she gazed up
Limpidly into the dark,
While over the hill, the slender moon
Slid into the fields beyond.

And softly, as when someone,
Jesting, throws her a stone,
Her tears, like golden stars,
Trickled down into the snow.

 

[Not Right in the Head]

Were the male puppies circumcised?

 

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

You are mean, NRITH.

Chica, did you forget to ask the question? [never mind]

Poor puppies.

 

[chica]

Were the male puppies circumcised?

I'm glad people started thinking about that procedure
Maybe too much.

I'm in a morbid mood, I should go to bed.

 

[chica]

Chica, did you forget to ask the question? [never mind]

When you see the question you'll know I wasn't joking about my mood

 

[Not Right in the Head]

Ok, hypothetically speaking, are we talking about taking babies away from their mothers? Because I have a story about that...

 

[Not Right in the Head]

Now that I've voted, I'm thinking that I should have picked "other."

 

[chica]

Ok, hypothetically speaking, are we talking about taking babies away from their mothers? Because I have a story about that...

Is it morbid? Feel free to share!

No, actually I'm asking about mothers getting rid of their children... they may do it through late abortion, or a couple of months later, but how do we decide which is worse?

 

[Not Right in the Head]

Is it morbid? Feel free to share!

No, actually I'm asking about mothers getting rid of their children... they may do it through late abortion, or a couple of months later, but how do we decide which is worse?

My story is about mothers who are forced by their parents to give up their children. For adoption.

 

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

There should be free obstetrical care and a good system that's stigma-free for mothers to relinquish their babies safely if need be. And, comprehensive free birth control so there aren't as many unwanted babies in the first place.

But if wishes and buts were candy and nuts it'd be Christmas every day.

 

[Coiffeur_En_Flame]

I don't like Russian poetry. I've read more inspired verse on the inside of Mothers Day cards.

I think it's clear where this poll is going (other than my ignore list). Everyone goes with the rational option ('a,' in case you were wondering) and then some zealot comes along and tells us that options a) and b) are tautologous. We have a mud-slinging contest that is only vaguely related to the original topic, and then we go away with exactly the same opinion we came in with. Yay!

Coiff.

 

[chica]

My story is about mothers who are forced by their parents to give up their children. For adoption.

That will be sad enough, tell us about it Kind of like this poem, but either better or worse, I can't decide

 

[chica]

I don't like Russian poetry. I've read more inspired verse on the inside of Mothers Day cards.

I think it's clear where this poll is going (other than my ignore list). Everyone goes with the rational option ('a,' in case you were wondering) and then some zealot comes along and tells us that options a) and b) are tautologous. We have a mud-slinging contest that is only vaguely relaed to the original topic, and then we go away with exactly the same opinion we came in with. Yay!

Coiff.

Cute, you're a breath of fresh air on this thread.

But what's the difference between a near term fetus and a newborn? The fact that the former is in the uterus? Does it make it a different being? I need a rational argument, not a religious one

 

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

Cute, you're a breath of fresh air on this thread.

But what's the difference between a near term fetus and a newborn? The fact that the former is in the uterus? Does it make it a different being? I need a rational argument, not a religious one

There isn't a rational one. You asked us to choose between the lesser of two evils. They're both extremely bad.

 

[chica]

There isn't a rational one. You asked us to choose between the lesser of two evils. They're both extremely bad.

I know, but how did we choose which was lesser evil? Based on what?

 

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

I know, but how did we choose which was lesser evil? Based on what?

Is it better to kill someone when they're asleep, or awake?

 

[Coiffeur_En_Flame]

Cute, you're a breath of fresh air on this thread.

But what's the difference between a near term fetus and a newborn? The fact that the former is in the uterus? Does it make it a different being? I need a rational argument, not a religious one

One's born, the other's not. They're both at almost identical stages of development, but I imagine it is an easier and less painful procedure - physically, for the baby, and emotionally, for the mother - when the child is inside the womb. But I don't have M.D. after my name, so I'm no expert...


Coiff.

 

[Not Right in the Head]

There isn't a rational one. You asked us to choose between the lesser of two evils. They're both extremely bad.

Actually, I wanted to vote "other" because I can think of some shit that's considerably awfuller than options 1 and 2. To wit, in no particular order:

• Nuclear holocaust
• Ethnic cleansing
• Redneck neighbors
• Cannibalism
• A design error in the Large Hadron Collider
• Game threads
• Catholic school
• Repeated kicks in the nuts
• Celine Dion

 

[Black_Eyed_Sioux]

Chica, your mind works in mysterious ways

 

[chica]

Is it better to kill someone when they're asleep, or awake?

My guess is when they're asleep

I wonder if judges take that into account on murder trials.

One's born, the other's not. They're both at almost identical stages of development, but I imagine it is an easier and less painful procedure - physically, for the baby, and emotionally, for the mother - when the child is inside the womb. But I don't have M.D. after my name, so I'm no expert...


Coiff.

Could be, makes sense.

Actually, I wanted to vote "other" because I can think of some shit that's considerably awfuller than options 1 and 2. To wit, in no particular order:

• Nuclear holocaust
• Ethnic cleansing
• Redneck neighbors
• Cannibalism
• A design error in the Large Hadron Collider
• Game threads
• Catholic school
• Repeated kicks in the nuts
• Celine Dion

Why cannibalism?

Chica, your mind works in mysterious ways

I know, I used to kill hamsters when I was little

Spoiler

Joke! A sick one too...