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  1. gashonthenail

    Bengali in Platforms without the fringe

    The song was viewed as 'racist'. And by people on the left. Take it up with The Guardian, not me. I don't think the song is racist. And I don't think Moz is racist. The way you go on about it, you must be racist. I wonder what incipient racist urges drive your not so magnificent obsession...
  2. gashonthenail

    Bengali in Platforms without the fringe

    I have always thought that 'Common People' by Pulp expresses a very similar sentiment to 'Bengali in Platforms'. It's about being a 'day tripper' in someone else's culture. The subject of the song doesn't belong - she's from Greece and 'everybody hates a tourist'. That song expresses much more...
  3. gashonthenail

    Bengali in Platforms without the fringe

    Whitechapel is in Tower Hamlets, and getting on for 40% of the population here in Tower Hamlets is of Bangladeshi heritage, and they wouldn't like to be described as of 'Indian descent'. It's a small point I know, but to which heritage we belong and where we belong is the main theme of the song...
  4. gashonthenail

    Radio Ulster: Give The Smiths Back To The Irish (November 26, 2023)

    The new 'hate speech' law proposed in Ireland is indeed the stuff of dystopia. The reason I mentioned Bonfire is because there has never been a better moment to release an album like that. For some the memory of the Manchester Arena bombing may have faded, no doubt, but the message of the title...
  5. gashonthenail

    Radio Ulster: Give The Smiths Back To The Irish (November 26, 2023)

    Moz and his 'big mouth'. There was indeed panic on the streets of Dublin last week. His ma and da were Dubliners so I can imagine Morrissey having a strong opinion about ordinary Dubliners being labelled 'far right' for not lighting candles and singing Don't Look in Anger following an attack on...
  6. gashonthenail

    Morrissey Central Morrissey cover star & influence Terry Venables dies (November 26, 2023)

    what a great photo on Moz central. sounds like he had battled with illness for some time, so best to remember him in youth and health. RIP El Tel.
  7. gashonthenail

    Has Moz said anything about Israel lately?

    Yes, indeed, his knowledge of Moz and his music appears very limited.
  8. gashonthenail

    Has Moz said anything about Israel lately?

    Does 'Britain' = the government & the army? of course not. Israel, like any country, ultimately is its people, its culture etc. The song is in praise of that, and suggests the Israeli people should feel pride and not shame.
  9. gashonthenail

    Has Moz said anything about Israel lately?

    I read that line as relating to the absurdity of Catholic priests (who are celibate) advising people about sexual matters. But you are absolutely right that that line clearly relates to the singer, or the subject of the song, and has nothing to do with Judaism, where priests are not celibate...
  10. gashonthenail

    Has Moz said anything about Israel lately?

    Yes, portions of the song allude to sex, and rejecting sexual repression. My reading of it is that the singer, or the subject of the song (that is always ambiguous in Morrissey's lyrics), compares himself to Israel and Israel's experience in the world. Love yourself, as you should, seems to me...
  11. gashonthenail

    Has Moz said anything about Israel lately?

    Where did I say that the song praises the government of Israel or its army? Or Israel's treatment of Gaza? No one has mentioned that. Just you. The song praises Israel. Full stop.
  12. gashonthenail

    Has Moz said anything about Israel lately?

    'Israel' clearly has absolutely nothing to do with the land of Israel and the song should only be read as Moz's code name for 'sex'. When Moz is feeling frisky, he leans over to Damon and says, fancy a little Israel tonight?
  13. gashonthenail

    Has Moz said anything about Israel lately?

    Last time I checked, no one was on the streets calling for the state of Turkey to be eradicated from the map. Israel compares the experience of the singer, or some person unknown at least, with the experience of the state of Israel in overcoming adversity and self-reproach and repression. It's...
  14. gashonthenail

    Has Moz said anything about Israel lately?

    You really do like thin gruel, Malarkey. He has given shows there when others encourage artists to boycott the state. He waved the Israeli flag on stage and called it God's Own County. He wrote a song that suggests Israel should love itself and is hated in the world because others are jealous...
  15. gashonthenail

    Has Moz said anything about Israel lately?

    When they decided to go there it was a British Mandate. In fact, the whole of the Middle East was pretty much run by the British and the French at the time. I can't imagine anyone in the 1920s and 30s fully foresaw the collapse of empire in quite the way that it played out after WWII...
  16. gashonthenail

    Do you think Morrissey would be willing to release Without Music the World Dies before Bonfire of Teenagers

    Why are they 'daft'? Because they express an opinion that you don't agree with? I like both songs. Bonfire is a good song on what sounds like a great album. Notre Dame is an intriguing song on what sounds like a good album - although we haven't heard all the album yet. Everyone should believe a...
  17. gashonthenail

    Do you think Morrissey would be willing to release Without Music the World Dies before Bonfire of Teenagers

    I imagine he would like to release Bonfire first, but unless he's open to self releasing either album I can't see either getting released. No British label will release an album with Bonfire on it. And no label anywhere will release an album with Notre Dame on it. Especially given current events...
  18. gashonthenail

    Has Moz said anything about Israel lately?

    Yes, he does seem to have enjoyed himself in those nightclubs...
  19. gashonthenail

    Has Moz said anything about Israel lately?

    To be fair, Aubs, in 1948 and 1967 they were indeed the underdogs and pretty much stood on their own against invasion from every flank. In 1948 they were saved by arm shipments from Stalinist-controlled Czechoslovakia. Apparently Stalin thought the existence of Israel would make the Middle East...
  20. gashonthenail

    Has Moz said anything about Israel lately?

    I would imagine like most sane people he is torn on the subject. Appalled by the terrible antisemitism. Appalled by the woke zealots who seem to have found common cause with Islamic jihadism in hating the West. But also appalled by the sight of a war machine bombing innocent civilians.
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