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    Let's talk about 'Beethoven Was Deaf'

    It's a fundamentally flawed album that is within a hairs breadth of perfection. The setlist is all out of whack. Both compared to the actual shows, and a decent setlist order. Moz setlists often feel like someone is pulling the songs out at random, and this is no different. The setlist on my...
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    Morrissey Central "WHEN YOU ARE THE QUARRY" (January 6, 2023)

    I suspect one of the reasons is that Van doesn't update his website daily throwing scorn at anyone whose ever worked at any of his record labels! Though I'd never willingly listen to anything by him unless you paid me a substantial sum of money.
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    Off-topic discussion thread / moved as clogging other threads

    Indeed. I won't be engaging with that person anymore.
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    Morrissey Central "WHEN YOU ARE THE QUARRY" (January 6, 2023)

    The arena shows were announced 17 January 2020, long before the pandemic seemed in any way significant. And if my analysis is that terrible, why didn't Moz go back to arenas in 2022? Because. He. Wouldn't. Sell. Enough. Tickets.
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    Morrissey Central "WHEN YOU ARE THE QUARRY" (January 6, 2023)

    Er... which is why his 2020 2 date arena run - on the back of the #4 California Son and #3 I Am Not A Dog On A Chain LP's had to be papered with ticket giveaways and half-empty arenas with curtained off backs and the stage brought forward. "BUT AT LEAST HE WAS PLAYING ARENAS!!!!!" Half empty...
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    Morrissey Central "WHEN YOU ARE THE QUARRY" (January 6, 2023)

    Utter horseshit. Just look at the size of the venues. Moz played 8 arenas in 2018 with 67,000 tickets (and struggled but managed to sell about 40,000), 2020 he couldn't even sell out 2 arenas (22,000 tickets, selling about 16,000), and 8 theatre sized venues with 22,000 tickets in 2022. His...
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    Morrissey Central "WHEN YOU ARE THE QUARRY" (January 6, 2023)

    You mean the 2011 where he played to about 130,000 people at Hop Farm / Glastonbury + about 20,000 theatre tickets vs 2022 where he played to about 22,000 people? Sure. Still doesn't look like he's a riproaring success compared to the past. Moz's ticket sales have plummeted in the past few...
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    Morrissey Central "WHEN YOU ARE THE QUARRY" (January 6, 2023)

    You want me to compare 2022 to 1999? Don't be daft. 1999 was before the Internet, everyone was watching bulky TV's on VHS, and about 1% of the world had a mobile phone. 1999 is nearer to the release of the first Star Wars movie than it is to today.
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    Morrissey Central "WHEN YOU ARE THE QUARRY" (January 6, 2023)

    2018 was the last tour in the UK that was comparable. That's not lazy. 2006 - 8 arena shows, 2 festivals,30 theatre shows 2008 - 7 shows : 6 small, 1 huge (Hyde Park) 2009 - 31 theatre and arena shows 2011 - 8 or so theatre shows + 2 outdoor festival shows 2015 - 9 or so mostly arena dates...
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    Morrissey Central "WHEN YOU ARE THE QUARRY" (January 6, 2023)

    TWO of them, with a total of 22,000 tickets and neither was sold out. I think Leeds stage was brought forward and bits were curtained off to prevent the sight of lots of unsold seats hurting Moz's eyes. It's a long way from 2018's 67,000 tickets - and many of those venues weren't sold out...
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    Morrissey Central "WHEN YOU ARE THE QUARRY" (January 6, 2023)

    Nope. Battersea 1997? 6,000. Chester 1997? About 3,000. London 2022? 2,268 + 4,921. Brighton? 3,500. Stockton? 2,372. Five times the size of 1997? Your Arse'n'all.
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    Morrissey Central "WHEN YOU ARE THE QUARRY" (January 6, 2023)

    If by successful you mean "Playing venues a fifth of the size he was in 2018"?
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    Morrissey Central "WHEN YOU ARE THE QUARRY" (January 6, 2023)

    Moz openly support For Britain, didn't he? The idea then, that he is apolitical, and never been far right, is obviously a load of bollocks.
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    RSD 22: 3 LP Set of Suede's Sci-Fi Lullabies

    The album was finished last year.
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    Morrissey Central "OPEN LETTER TO JOHNNY MARR." (January 25, 2022)

    Note : all standards of attractiveness are personal and not objective. Note : I d g a f.
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    The Guardian: Johnny Marr - "You ask the questions" (February 6, 2022)

    Money and moving from Manchester to London was a big part of it.
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    The Guardian: Johnny Marr - "You ask the questions" (February 6, 2022)

    In a different world, Marr would have teamed up with Matt Johnson in The The, and would have soared as part of the Johnson/Marr writing duo. Johnson asked him to join not long after Marr met Moz, and he stuck with Moz. Moz needed a great musician and instrumentalist to give muscle to his skills...
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    Morrissey Central "OPEN LETTER TO JOHNNY MARR." (January 25, 2022)

    The way its told, Moz was the one who went cold on the idea.
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    Johnny Marr responds to Morrissey's open letter via Twitter (January 26, 2022)

    That photo is about 20 years old. 20 years before this photo was taken, the Smiths hadn't even formed.
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    Johnny Marr responds to Morrissey's open letter via Twitter (January 26, 2022)

    Yes. "The production carries “sound-check suits”. I am informed that the band are considered “ambassadors” of the Morrissey tour and are therefore expected to be dressed in these suits for all soundchecks, all collective flights, all dinners and functions that may possibly include Morrissey –...
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